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Spring Anime 2013 |OT-8| What could be beyond OT-8? Possibility.

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Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
[Aim For The Top! Gunbuster] 6 (Rewatch)
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I cried bucʞets.

I love this show. It's top three of all time material for me, but if I had to put it into words I think I'd fall short of everything that Gunbuster does right. To me, it is Hideaki Anno working around the limitations of a short story in his favour. Which isn't to say it is flawless! The atmosphere in the first three episodes seems juvenile at times (plus the characterisation of SUMISU falls short of what the drama needed), but I think that sort of simple mood is what makes the melancholy tone later on more heart-rending.

Can I just steal Jexhius' words and say that ending is the perfect anime ending? Brevity, wit, Shakespeare, whatever. It's Diebuster time next week. Now that's a show I'm more eager to watch without my nostalgia goggles.

P.S. I don't know how I somehow missed all this time that this episode introduces
MASS-PRODUCTION GUNBUSTERS
, which makes the decision to
use stills for the battle
(albeit awesome
stills
) go from an eloquent artistic choice to yet another massive GAINAX troll. I fucking hate you, Hideaki Anno.
 

Jex

Member
Did Hyouka sell well? I seem to remember that that particular circumstance usually derives from the license holder expecting it to sell similar numbers overseas, which obviously just wouldn't be true.

I doubt it would even be able to match it's relatively meagre JP sales (and they weren't that great, for sure) in the US.
 

Kazzy

Member
Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo

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The Rebuild series has been experiencing something of an identity crisis from the very beginning.

This was supposed to be a “re-imagining” rather than a “re-telling”, so it’s understandable that one may be a little confused by how erratic this presentation has been. You Are (Not) Alone began being respectable of its source, even if it was a little too slavish with that material. You Can (Not) Advance seemed a little more sure-footed, striking a more palatable blend between old and new. You Can (Not) Redo, however, seems intent to continue the trend, by being completely unpredictable.

Still, though my feelings on the Rebuild franchise are very much a mixed bag, I’d be lying if I said that the previous film hadn’t piqued my interest. How it ended certainly left a measure of anticipation behind, having promised something a little different this time around. Well that is indeed the case; the only problem being that “something” is sure to polarize.

You Can (Not) Redo doesn’t seem to care what has gone before it, as it hurtles itself into a scenario all of its own design. In a way, it’s refreshing to see such a bold move, particularly as that was part of what we were being sold on from the beginning. So, it’s a little unfortunate that what with end up with, just isn’t that good. Both novel and maddening in equal measure, for everyone one thing it does right, it seemingly has several glaring problems to counter with.

The 14 year leap in time, is the both the films biggest weakness, as well as its biggest strength. This new unfamiliarity is still all about framing Shinji’s personal journey, though it allows us to see it in a unique light. Make no mistake; this is the same ineffectual Shinji that we’ve always known, leaving those around him (and the world itself) to have undergone the most radical transformations. The premise ostensibly allows the same character to be transplanted into a new world, and adds a new slant on Shinji’s descent. The series was more about trying to prevent and learn from the mistakes of the past, whereas here, Shinji is exposed to living through those transgressions. Is he truly capable of forging his own path? Or he is destined to repeat the same mistakes? It forms the basis of an interesting notion, and feeds into what is probably where much of the fan interest lies, namely his relationship with Kaworu.

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It could be said that the earlier installments fostered a belief (at least in the audience) that things would be influenced by a slightly different set of emotions this time around. In that regard, perhaps it was something of a deliberate ploy to have had 2.0 allude to glimmers of a happier tale - because 3.0 is very much in an altogether more sombre affair. The fact that it chooses to focus on Kaworu, a character who what had previously been neglected, supports this. So it’s strange that a lot this is reliant on the audience already being aware on his presence within the franchise, particularly the implications of his continued existence. This in itself turns the act of watching his burgeoning friendship with Shinji, into something quite morbid.

I found it to be quite appealing, in that it evoked the same melancholy that was found towards the end of the Neon Genesis Evangelion. You begin to get a good sense that things are going to go awry, and it’s that curiosity that compels you to watch. But this is seemingly the only plot thread that the film seems concerned with. It dedicates much of itself trying to fashion a direct route towards its ending, rather than bothering itself with those details in-between.

The brevity of the story-telling is nothing new, but the effects of which are extremely apparent here. It all feels stilted, and much more generic than its predecessors. The situation dictates that everyone has changed, but we are never privy to this. Apart from the confounding introduction, which re-introduces a host of familiar faces - as well as couple of new ones, we are never given anything much in the way of momentum. In fact, one could be so cynical as to say that the plot is book-ended on either side of the credits. Though, the case could be made that Evangelion is about its characters anyway, and that time could be better spent with its cast.

Much of the time is spent with the aforementioned Shinji, Kaworu dynamic. It certainly feels much more natural here, with their bond given time to mature. And it’s easier to accept how much this resonates with Shinji, because the film at least does convey the true extent of his abandonment - with the whole world literally (and figuratively) against him. In the past, Shinji never lent himself to being the most likeable of protagonists, but you generally did come to understand how he come to such decisions, even if you may not have necessarily agreed with them. Here, he is funneled into a logical conclusion, because the world around him simply will not cooperate with him. It’s much less a case of him failing to understand the world, than it is, the world failing to understand him. This in itself could be an interesting notion to explore, were it not born out of these shallow circumstances.

Kaworu himself is much easier to interpret here, with the time affording his actions not to feel as though they are solely the work of a manipulative, monologuing, individual. He represents the hope of something new, which of course makes it all the more tragic, when we know the fate that awaits him.If the films main goal was to avoid this relationship feeling contrived, then it certainly achieved that.

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However, there was a slight surprise in Asuka’s portrayal. Truth be told, she doesn’t appear all that much, but her interactions do display a slight wrinkle in her personality, she’s matured. No matter how pained the explanation behind her stilted-aging is, Asuka is ostensibly much older that we have been accustomed to. As such, it creates a fresh dichotomy between her and Shinji, one you suspect is no longer tinged with those romantic overtures. It’s frustrating that this aspect of the story doesn’t get more room to breathe, because her annoyance with Shinji is both justified and vindicated. But at the same time, he hasn’t had the same time to come to terms with just about…well, everything. In fact, it is only in the closing moments, do we see a hint of where this might lead. But considering how fast and loose this entry plays with the promises of its predecessors, I wouldn’t exactly pin my hopes on it.

The trajectory of Misato is tragic. She has gone from what is possibly the most grounded character portrayal in the entire series, to an archetype. She had previously been someone who was fully aware of their own failings, but puts them aside anyway, in an effort to support those around her. 3.0 burdens her with an unconvincing scowl, and the despondent tsundere routine to go alongside it. Though without the prerequisite time, her portrayal feels horribly trite. She acts illogically in a broken world. Mari exists within a different anime entirely. It’s extremely dumb.

Mari continues to be blight this franchise, as everything she does seems to be contrary to what is actually unfolding. Still seemingly at a pains to differentiate her, Mari’s various affectations only serve to annoy - from her obnoxious singing, to the joviality by which she treats almost everything that occurs. She an empathic failure, one who only serves to drag down every scene in which she features. I’m still kind of amazed she even exists. To think, that long-established characters are already feeling the constraints of a feature, and we are continually burdened with this new addition. It just makes me lament that they have been rendered into these one-note renditions, all the while, Mari has screen-time. As of the end of this film, I feel assured in giving up any hope of her being redeemable. Even if she was to have a pivotal role in this upcoming finale, will anybody actually care?

Rei served as the biggest disappointment to me, because as I noted in my impressions on You can (not) advance, she signaled the prospect of elements taking a wildly different approach in future installments. And even though that came to past, it did so without Rei, who was ostensibly reverted back to type, come the beginning of this feature. I am of course talking about her being “saved” at the end of the previous film, which seemed to indicate that we’d be remaining with the second Rei, which is to say the “original”, at least as far as the audience is concerned. She was a less a character, and more of an embodiment of a state of mind, serving as a exploration of how we engage with our identity, and how it ultimately shapes us. As you can expect, I was quite excited to see that suppressed personality finally given the chance to flourish. Particularly as we were always offered small glimpses of her latent humanity.

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Conceptually, You can (not) Redo gets this right, in that it grants its characters the opportunity to be removed from their familiar workings. Yet, within the caveats of this particular tale, we rarely afforded the chance to spend time with them, or at least understand them. In fact, to use “characters” here would be a misnomer, because they anything but - largely existing as avatars used to drive the plot. No one simply withholds information here because they feel the need to, rather, they do so because that’s how they written, badly. For all intents and purposes, Shinji acts as our eyes, he knows nothing, just as we do. Yet, even as an inactive participant, it should quickly become clear that the surrounding world is apparently unable to carry out cognitive reasoning. From the very beginning, he continually asks questions, only to have everyone withhold the answers from him. If his role within this new world is so precarious, then why is no one trying to cajole him towards their cause? Even if the likes of Misato want to keep him at arm’s length, it would surely be in best interests to educate him. Instead, Shinji simply stumbles into each predicament because he knows no better. Likewise, Kaworu, whose relationship with Shinji is probably the crux of this entire movie, tells him nothing of any real-consequence. Even as part of some Machiavellian plot by Gendo, it all falls into place a little too conveniently.

This is the sort of indecision that permeates throughout, with no one able to truly deliver the answers. But then again, that just may be a failing on the part of the script, rather than something that was considered. The entire narrative runs on misdirection, something which isn’t conveyed through subtle foreshadowing or character machinations, but simply idiocy. It’d be naive to think that this posturing is the result of a deft touch, and not the result of bad storytelling. The lack of communication is simply staggering, and it doesn’t take much consideration to realize the central conflict could be circumvented by a simpe line or two. It breaks the immersion somewhat, when a character like Misato, someone who had previously been vehemently supportive of Shinji, is now a complete inverse of what she once was. It’s indicative of a real lack of cohesion in general, and if the poor characterization doesn’t deter, the silliness will.

It doesn’t feel like the same story told differently, much less than it does, a bad story told using familiar faces. The passage of time ultimately feels like a gimmick, because beyond the initial shock of the opening, it is clearly a crutch by which to elicit cheap drama. What starts off as something fairly novel, instead subverts itself by becoming largely dull. This manifests most prominently in the actions scenes. It’s not just the fact that these divorce us from any sort of meaningful character development, but that these scenes, even in isolation, just aren’t all that entertaining. But perhaps this is where the film is most divisive, because the film does make liberal use of CG. With the quotient having crept up between installments, Though I am of the opinion that it leaves us with confusing, not to mention, ugly, action scenes. There is no visible restraint being exercised here, and it’s hard to feel anything other than bemusement, especially when a hundred different things are being thrown across the screen at once. I can see how the frenetic energy afforded by this will please some, but it just doesn’t mesh comfortably in most cases.

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It highlights the interesting dichotomy of 3.0, whereby the action (and the plot) is in service of itself, rather than the characters. These are the moments that I want to see things, feel things, none of which the film seems concerned with. These particular crescendos are never going to resonate if we never have reason to feel any sort of empathy, and we rarely do. This should be evident by how plainly they explain away several longstanding mysteries. It’s difficult to feel as though there is anything left to conjecture, because You Can (Not) Redo seems content to simply lay out its motive to bear. The execution is sloppy.

If they intended to exercise such reckless abandon within their narrative, then it begs to question, as to why they waited so long to break from the status-quo.

Ambivalence would be how I ultimately describe my feelings about 3.0, because I don’t consider it good, yet it’d be hard to be completely disparaging about it, when it actually strikes out at something different. Though as a self-contained feature, it’s unequivocally a failure. The narrative is so muddled, and so reliant on the audience already being privy to the minutiae of the lore, that it’d be incomprehensible for a newcomer. And it’s by that same token, that I imagine many longstanding fans of the franchise will feel aggrieved with the developments presented here. Say what you will about the previous Rebuild films, but they at least felt more suited to the Evangelion name. This feels as though it could be an amalgamation of any number of franchises.

Summary: If the finished product was meant as a clever subversion from what was alluded to in the initial preview at the end of You Can (Not) Advance, then I’m frankly unimpressed. It feels like a contemptible ploy. As its own imaginings, You Can (Not) Redo is a fairly interesting piece, but as an actual part of the Evangelion mythos, it is putrid.
 

cajunator

Banned
[Sexy Soldier Sailor Moon R] 085

In a show full of lewd transformation sequences, this is probably the lewdest. I'm totally okay with it, though.

Is it bad that the only thing I could think of during this scene was that
Tuxedo Mask was looking at his naked daughter? I'm actually surprised Demando hasn't tried to bone Sexy-Usa yet considering how much he resembles Queen Serenity.

P.S. Avoiding the next episode previews is futile considering the fucking prologues spoil everything anyway. :|

Oh yeah her. This was one of the first characters I ever tried to draw. Still on my DA page even.

Those are just the end cards from the show. We already have larger versions of both from ep1 and ep2:

Thank you Ducky!

Is this going to be one where Cajun is Makoto's dad?

Oh that would be messed up!
Im a foreveralone though so no worries.

Nanoha As - 6

Just when I was starting to feel bad for those guys...

It got worse. That has got to be one of the best villain backstories you could introduce for a conflict. Here we have these four tools created by an evil to be used for evil cursed upon an innocent little girl. Now they just learn how to be a family and vow never to do evil, only for them to realize that the very thing that created them was killing the first master that was kind to them.

Holy shit. Now I'm hyped more than ever. This takes the Fate backstory from the first season and blows it away. And I still haven't reached that zone on the awesome chart yet.

It begins :D

Fate Zero - Episode 2 and 3

Good stuff, Saber is a cool lady.

She is. I love Saber so much. In Fate Zero shes a little useless though.

Nanoha As - 8

Oh boy, now things are starting to get intense.

So Hayate's condition is getting worse and the Guardian Knights are getting more and more desperate while the Time-Space Admins are still trying to stop them. Damn it this is getting painful :(.

I'm getting a feeling that Tuxedo Mask had something to do with changing the Tome of the Night Sky to the Necronomicon, only question is; why?

I'm also getting bad vibes from those two cat-women and that...general dude. Shit has really gotten real now.

This is the point where its about to blow your face off.
Probably.
 

Mature

Member
[Aim For The Top! Gunbuster] 6 Rewatch

I cried bucʞets.

I love this show. It's top three of all time material for me, but if I had to put it into words I think I'd fall short of everything that Gunbuster does right. To me, it is Hideaki Anno working around the limitations of a short story in his favour. Which isn't to say it is flawless! The atmosphere in the first three episodes seems juvenile at times (plus the characterisation of SUMISU falls short of what the drama needed), but I think that sort of simple mood is what makes the melancholy tone later on more heart-rending.

Can I just steal Jexhius' words and say that ending is the perfect anime ending? Brevity, wit, Shakespeare, whatever. It's Diebuster time next week. Now that's a show I'm more eager to watch without my nostalgia goggles.

P.S. I don't know how I somehow missed all this time that this episode introduces
MASS-PRODUCTION GUNBUSTERS
, which makes the decision to
use stills for the battle
(albeit awesome
stills
) go from an eloquent artistic choice to yet another massive GAINAX troll. I fucking hate you, Hideaki Anno.
I wonder why Gunbuster didn't strike as big a chord for me? All of the pieces come together as something that would be perfect for my tastes, but I felt a bit unsatisfied when I finished it. To me, the characterization felt a bit silly and one-dimensional when pressed up against some of the captivating concepts presented in the show (notably,
time dilation
). Perhaps if I'm not drawn in by the characters in a show, the other pieces aren't enough to keep the whole work afloat. I can stop and respect the parts, but the whole suffers and it's stunted from reaching that special status.

And now that I think about it, oppositely, if the characters are compelling enough, I can be goaded into loving the whole show despite it's shortcomings (See: Darker than Black). Maybe I'd benefit from a repeat viewing of Gunbuster.
 
I doubt it would even be able to match it's relatively meagre JP sales (and they weren't that great, for sure) in the US.

An average of 9,776 per volume can't be described as "meager" sales, especially at Kadokawa's "2 episodes per volume for a 2-cour show where each volume is expensive even by the standards of the Japanese anime industry" pricing.
 

cajunator

Banned
think I got to episode 3. I didn't abandon it because it was terrible at that point, just wasn't interesting me. Although the catgirl was nice.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
I hope it all goes well, faridmon! :)


The first casualty of the recon unit, 7Th, helped to intensify the tension between both factions... I suppose.


Do you... do you really hate me, SDBurton? I thought you promised not to forget about me again... maybe I did something you didn't like, could it be? I'm sorry if that's the case. :'-(

Ohhh my god I am so sorry /XX/! Be in here more often so I can see you!

Tell me or PM me of who you want to be a pair of. For my mistake I'll let you choose!
 
Naruto Dub 4-5

Enter base Kakashi easily the best character in the series. The bell challenge shows all the flaws of our three main ninja's and also has all of them grow by the end and work as a team. One of the best lines that jumps out a lot are when Kakashi says "My friends names are engraved here" and "One who leaves their friends behind is worse then scum" especially knowing later that

MAJOR MANGA SPOILERS
Obito is not only still alive but is the main antagonist of the series

I'm not sure how far along Shippuden is but for the sake of anime only viewers I'll just mark it a manga spoiler for now.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
what do you mean?
Random Sailor Moon reference just as I am marathoning the show is just creepy. On the other hand, no wonder Diebuster turned out the way it did! Tsurumaki is obviously a fan of Ikuhara.
I wonder why Gunbuster didn't strike as big a chord for me? All of the pieces come together as something that would be perfect for my tastes, but I felt a bit unsatisfied when I finished it. To me, the characterization felt a bit silly and one-dimensional when pressed up against some of the captivating concepts presented in the show (notably,
time dilation
). Perhaps if I'm not drawn in by the characters in a show, the other pieces aren't enough to keep the whole work afloat. I can stop and respect the parts, but the whole suffers and it's stunted from reaching that special status.

And now that I think about it, oppositely, if the characters are compelling enough, I can be goaded into loving the whole show despite it's shortcomings (See: Darker than Black). Maybe I'd benefit from a repeat viewing of Gunbuster.
It's the whole package that sells it to me. It is true that the characters are pretty much stereotypes of different shoujo or shounen tropes, but I think that makes the show feel more... nostalgic? Nostalgia is definitely the word I would go for when describing this. It captures that essence of simpler times and the melancholy that comes with them. I guess I'm just a sucker for that type of story.
 
I just realized there was something I didn't like about Yes! Pretty Cure 5's designs.

Their outfits looked like they went through a piss filter. Clearly, that's why people hate on it (outside of having a shitty side cast).

Yes and weak monsters of the week , weak mascots .
Unintresting plots. Useless cure mint.
Disapointing antagonists.

The list goes on.
 

Jex

Member
Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo
That should be spoiler tagged.
An average of 9,776 per volume can't be described as "meager" sales, especially at Kadokawa's "2 episodes per volume for a 2-cour show where each volume is expensive even by the standards of the Japanese anime industry" pricing.

I was under the impression that those numbers wouldn't be producing much profit at all for a project a production as expensive as Hyouka's.
 
Cure minto is such a cutie. Is she really useless?

She's the reason why later Defense Oriented Pretty Cures are much more awesome than her, even if she had the offensive Mint Shield Kamehameha (which she used like once, but it was awesome). That's why she gained an attack that was both Offensive and Defensive in GoGo.

But I mainly liked YPC5 for the creep factor.
 

cajunator

Banned
She's the reason why later Defense Oriented Pretty Cures are much more awesome than her, even if she had the offensive Mint Shield Kamehameha (which she used like once, but it was awesome). That's why she gained an attack that was both Offensive and Defensive in GoGo.

But I mainly liked YPC5 for the creep factor.

You can go toe to toe with MadPierrot for most knowledgeable Precure fan. I likes you.

*hugs
 
[Aim For The Top! Gunbuster] 6 Rewatch

I really loved this when I watched it for the first time a few years ago. Completely clicked for me. This and an Eva watch after it pretty much inspired me to try to follow current airing anime. A bit of a strange choice in hindsight, but I think it has turn out pretty good!

Space Radiation Syndrome is the end all, be all sickness for anime characters.
 
You can go toe to toe with MadPierrot for most knowledgeable Precure fan. I likes you.

*hugs

A haaa! Well it helps that I've been marathoning the shit out of the entire franchise for the past 2 months now.

Smile Precure 16

ITS THE REIKA THE ROBOT EPISODE, where Cure Squidgirl's friends are a bad influence on her to the point that she's aware that she's a robot.


Anyway, this episode continues the Cure Girls do Dumb Things mantra, where everyone but Reika gets owned in a test, and there's a test oriented battle!

Cure Peace, I know you're terrible at Math but you don't know 1+2+3+4 D: D: D:
I wonder how she made it past grades, probably by being adorable.

I can't comment on everyone else because of a cultural barrier. More Nao x Reika moments for you lovers out there, she saved the Robot from being irrational. She's her repair girl~!

Really do enjoy the light hearted-ness of this series.
 

Branduil

Member
I was under the impression that those numbers wouldn't be producing much profit at all for a project a production as expensive as Hyouka's.

Hyouka is an adaptation, though. It doesn't require the same kind of sales as an original work to be profitable, and it did give a large bump to sales of the original novels.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
Smile Precure 16

Cure Peace, I know you're terrible at Math but you don't know 1+2+3+4 D: D: D:
I wonder how she made it past grades, probably by being adorable.
This is probably a case of Toei dumbing it down for the main audience. lol They don't wanna make the little girls watching this feel dumb by actually making Yayoi answer a question for someone her age.
 

Mr.Jeff

Member
I don't really remember specifically but I've just seen different ones mention they like the earlier parts more. Maybe even though they like the latter series less they meant it as one of those cases where they think it's all great but they would give Crest a 9.9/10 where Banner III would get a 9.5/10 or something. Mr. Jeff doesn't seem to like Banner II as much but I think most people I've seen mention it like it and it's really Banner III that more people don't like or are divided on.
Man, I can't believe you remembered this post from so many pages ago; from a small-time junior poster as well!

Glad to see you enjoyed Banner in the end though. I think perhaps the reason I like it slightly more is that it feels slightly more cohesive in terms of fitting into the universe of a whole.
Whereas in Crest a lot of it is mainly about Jinto and Lafiel and how they essentially came to be paired together and the development of their relationship, Banner then takes that and places it in a more a realistic atmosphere; he is a an officer and she is a captain and also a member of the imperial family. Compared to their adventures in the first series, it's easier to see how situations like that are a one-off and they can't always have that time alone together.


In terms of Banner II, I was initially soured on the series I think which perhaps reflects badly on how I view it. I can't really expand further without spoiling it so I'll maybe mention it if/when you watch the next series.

Banner III for many is a low point in the series because they basically try and compress an entire novel into a single 50 minute OVA when before they'd had the luxury of a 13 episode series. It's not bad as such since it still has some pretty great moments (particularly in the directors cut!) but it overall feels rushed and compromises the experience.
 

cajunator

Banned
A haaa! Well it helps that I've been marathoning the shit out of the entire franchise for the past 2 months now.

Smile Precure 16

ITS THE REIKA THE ROBOT EPISODE, where Cure Squidgirl's friends are a bad influence on her to the point that she's aware that she's a robot.



Anyway, this episode continues the Cure Girls do Dumb Things mantra, where everyone but Reika gets owned in a test, and there's a test oriented battle!

Cure Peace, I know you're terrible at Math but you don't know 1+2+3+4 D: D: D:
I wonder how she made it past grades, probably by being adorable.

I can't comment on everyone else because of a cultural barrier. More Nao x Reika moments for you lovers out there, she saved the Robot from being irrational. She's her repair girl~!

Really do enjoy the light hearted-ness of this series.

The only one I have seen in entirety so far is Futari Wa Precure. Tried marathoning Max Heart but its nowhere near as good as the first. Decided to move on to Heartcatch but haven't had time to really marathon anything. I can do that tomorrow though.
Too much stuff goes on around here with all the festivals and stuff. Too busy.
 

cajunator

Banned
Guilty Crown promised to be the next code Geass, then it cracked that promise in half, crumbled it into pieces, set it on fire, pissed on the remains and laughed. Oh how it laughed.
 

Jex

Member
Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo
So yeah, this is a pretty great review and you should probably post it in Evangelion 3.0 Spoiler Thread and spoiler tag it in here before you get banned.

I was left so utterly disappointed by the movie that I couldn't muster the energy (or commit the time) to write anything other than a fairly broad critique. I've just grown tired of writing about the Rebuild franchises over the years.

This oddly feels facsimiles of something else entirely.

You nearly had a perfectly written review there, by which I mean you nearly had a review free of obvious grammatical mistakes or illogical phrases, but this managed to slip in. For shame! Proof, if proof were needed, that you can always do with producing another draft.
 
I was under the impression that those numbers wouldn't be producing much profit at all for a project a production as expensive as Hyouka's.

You have to consider that Kadokawa sold Hyouka at an unusually high price and that sales remained consistent over its entire 11-volume run, a rather rare occurrence. Plus you need to factor in sales not reported by Oricon, the large boost in sales it gave to the novels, and the general merchandising associated with the show. And it's not as if we actually know the budget allotted to the production of Hyouka; it certainly had great production values, but that was due as much to really good scheduling and workflow as to however much money was poured into it.

It may not have been a mega-hit, but from what I can see I don't think the production committee would consider the sales "meager".
 

Branduil

Member
As far as I know the only recent KyoAni show that was confirmed to be a "failure" in terms of not making its budget back was Nichijou, although Tamako Market may join that category as well.
 
The only one I have seen in entirety so far is Futari Wa Precure. Tried marathoning Max Heart but its nowhere near as good as the first. Decided to move on to Heartcatch but haven't had time to really marathon anything. I can do that tomorrow though.
Too much stuff goes on around here with all the festivals and stuff. Too busy.

Well Max Heart is just stacking upon the issues that Futari wa has along with its own emotional baggage. It's a pain in the ass, and yet I wouldn't mind a group hatewatch of it because it's summer right now.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
Well Max Heart is just stacking upon the issues that Futari wa has along with its own emotional baggage. It's a pain in the ass, and yet I wouldn't mind a group hatewatch of it because it's summer right now.

As nebulous as the term is, people typically get something out of hatewatching. Max Heart is just a waste of life.
 
Nanoha As - 10

Uh, I, huh? What? Who? WHY?!?

I KNEW IT! THE CATWOMEN AND GENERAL DUDE WERE BEHIND IT ALL ALONG! Oh wait, they tried to seal it away?

Then...THE NECRONOMICON! IT'S THE NECRONOMOICON WHO...Oh...It just wanted to grant it's master's wish?

Then...There's no real villain. There's no real villain.

...

But...What am I gonna do with all these Super Sayian gifs?
 

Jex

Member
You have to consider that Kadokawa sold Hyouka at an unusually high price and that sales remained consistent over its entire 11-volume run, a rather rare occurrence. Plus you need to factor in sales not reported by Oricon, the large boost in sales it gave to the novels, and the general merchandising associated with the show. And it's not as if we actually know the budget allotted to the production of Hyouka; it certainly had great production values, but that was due as much to really good scheduling and workflow as to however much money was poured into it.

It may not have been a mega-hit, but from what I can see I don't think the production committee would consider the sales "meager".

I see. Interesting. Thanks!
 

/XX/

Member
Okay this is super creepy. Fucking anime eating its own tail like an Ouroboros.
Quite the apt description knowing what 'dōjin' circle name some GAiNAXers, including Mr. Anno & Mr. Tsurumaki, did participate in (UROBOROS), and what series they parodied frequently (Sailor Moon).

Case in point; search for their PARASELENE number made for C45 to further appreciate their dedication to honor that series. Obsessive guys they were about it, for sure!

Ohhh my god I am so sorry /XX/! Be in here more often so I can see you!

Tell me or PM me of who you want to be a pair of. For my mistake I'll let you choose!
Thanks for the offer, man... but knowing that you care about it is enough for me! :)
 
Cure minto is such a cutie. Is she really useless?

She's the reason why later Defense Oriented Pretty Cures are much more awesome than her, even if she had the offensive Mint Shield Kamehameha (which she used like once, but it was awesome). That's why she gained an attack that was both Offensive and Defensive in GoGo.

But I mainly liked YPC5 for the creep factor.

Pretty much ..great character in human form but in precure form , she only had her shield.

You cannot know HOW HAPPY i was when she gained an attack in gogo.
I was like "FINALLY"

One of the many things gogo "fixed" in the yes precure saga.
It's just incredible how better "gogo" is ..but to enjoy it you have to suffer from the first season first :(

As a precure fan ( fan from day one , watched all series when they aired ) Yes precure almost made me drop the franchise.
 
Pretty much ..great character in human form but in precure form , she only had her shield.

You cannot know HOW HAPPY i was when she gained an attack in gogo.
I was like "FINALLY"

One of the many things gogo "fixed" in the yes precure saga.
It's just incredible how better "gogo" is ..but to enjoy it you have to suffer from the first season first :(

As a precure fan ( fan from day one , watched all series when they aired ) Yes precure almost made me drop the franchise.

After going through Max Heart, I could do anything, so it was much easier to deal with, especially since it at least had a new mechanic added to the series.
 

firehawk12

Subete no aware
[Aim For The Top! Gunbuster] 6 (Rewatch)

I cried bucʞets.

I love this show. It's top three of all time material for me, but if I had to put it into words I think I'd fall short of everything that Gunbuster does right. To me, it is Hideaki Anno working around the limitations of a short story in his favour. Which isn't to say it is flawless! The atmosphere in the first three episodes seems juvenile at times (plus the characterisation of SUMISU falls short of what the drama needed), but I think that sort of simple mood is what makes the melancholy tone later on more heart-rending.

Can I just steal Jexhius' words and say that ending is the perfect anime ending? Brevity, wit, Shakespeare, whatever. It's Diebuster time next week. Now that's a show I'm more eager to watch without my nostalgia goggles.

P.S. I don't know how I somehow missed all this time that this episode introduces
MASS-PRODUCTION GUNBUSTERS
, which makes the decision to
use stills for the battle
(albeit awesome
stills
) go from an eloquent artistic choice to yet another massive GAINAX troll. I fucking hate you, Hideaki Anno.

I can`t remember, did they explain why the aliens were trying to wipe them out?
 
After going through Max Heart, I could do anything, so it was much easier to deal with, especially since it at least had a new mechanic added to the series.

Well for me i had the added layer of disapointment since i just left of splash star ( that had an AMAZING finale ) and a very high second part in term of quality .. to find yes precure , with new mecanics , this stupid romance , the annoying coco & nuts voices and the most disapointing lack of quality in term of weekly stories.
I had hopes when i saw the end of ep 5 ( because i wasn't anticipating karen to do that ) so i was hoping for this serie to surprise me. Even if it was different.

WHAT a DISAPOINTMENT !

To this day i've forgotten who the antagonist was in the first "yes" season , yet i remember all the others.
 

madp

The Light of El Cantare
But we waste it together! That's the beauty of it! Plus it helps others understand your pain and thus get closer to one another!

I don't want other people to understand my pain, I want to spare them from repeating my mistakes :(
 
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