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Square-Enix warming up to Nintendo?
- Thread starter Cooter
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Not to be pessimistic, but didn't we have news like this pre-gamecube release?
Didn't we have these kind of news during gamecube's release? (i.e. "FINAL FANTASY on Gamecube! 3 games announced!" and what did you get? A secret of mana with final fantasy name slapped on, and that's it)
Didn't we have these kind of news during gamecube's release? (i.e. "FINAL FANTASY on Gamecube! 3 games announced!" and what did you get? A secret of mana with final fantasy name slapped on, and that's it)
From Nintendo's point of view it is a good thing to implement an online system where people have to meet in the real world before they can play each other online - stops kids from being pedophile targets (being approached online).
For a hermit like me it means no online play. But it would be a feature they could really push over the other consoles if they market to parents.
For a hermit like me it means no online play. But it would be a feature they could really push over the other consoles if they market to parents.
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neptunes said:
When I came into the thread I was about to say old too but there is some really cool new info here about the Rev.
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I don't understand how limiting the online shiz to people you met in real life is either
A. a good idea
B. an idea at all
C. Even feasible. Why can't I play the gaf on revolution? Do they need to put their thumbprint on your DS or something before you're allowed to play them :lol
A. a good idea
B. an idea at all
C. Even feasible. Why can't I play the gaf on revolution? Do they need to put their thumbprint on your DS or something before you're allowed to play them :lol
Smiles and Cries
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johnnyram's thread was cool but went downhill fast and it did not have that little tidbit about the rev.
Seems like Square Enix president Youichi Wada really likes the damn thing.
Nintendo better have the same kind of support Sony is getting or I will be pissed at this kind of talk.
Seems like Square Enix president Youichi Wada really likes the damn thing.
Nintendo better have the same kind of support Sony is getting or I will be pissed at this kind of talk.
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Do you mean to say, that when I get revolution online, I will never ever get called a homosexual by a boy that has likely never experience the touch of a woman ever again!?
Sign me up. However, they should allow annonymous play with no voice support (or picto/photo whatever) I think. Become the best in the world at smash bros and whatnot.
Smiles and Cries
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Jonnyram said:
awesome point, sounds good to me
Smiles and Cries
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catfish said:
I'll be the guy screaming MIKE JONES! MIKE JONES! while kicking your ass with a pikachu
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catfish said:
Well they probably know that if they make something like Pokemon Online it has the potential to be an essential tool for pedophiles. This may not be the best way to deal with that, but regardless, it's an issue they're going to have to deal with somehow. They're also supposedly looking into limiting how much communication you can actually do (i.e. enough to accomplish game objectives, but not enough to solicit a meeting).
Just wanted to go back to this since you keep saying it so muchTabris said:
Square did not pledge support for the GC before the launch. In fact, the first time we knew about it was when that FF:CC ad turned up and everyone was like "WTF!?". It also was not Square, but Fund Q. But the biggest point of all of this is that this announcement has been made before ANY of the next-gen machines have been properly announced. Square had already been supporting the PS2 for a couple of years before FF:CC came out. This situation is way different.
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Jonnyram said:
+1
Jonnyram said:Just wanted to go back to this since you keep saying it so much
Square did not pledge support for the GC before the launch. In fact, the first time we knew about it was when that FF:CC ad turned up and everyone was like "WTF!?". It also was not Square, but Fund Q. But the biggest point of all of this is that this announcement has been made before ANY of the next-gen machines have been properly announced. Square had already been supporting the PS2 for a couple of years before FF:CC came out. This situation is way different.
It was twice damn it
Yeah, maybe I'm confusing actual news with reading the IGN boards before Gamecube's launch. Maybe that was my problem. Cause before GCN came out, every 5th post was some rumour regarding Square and Nintendo. (omg!! final fantasy on gamecube. parasite eve on gamecube. etc, etc, etc)
Smiles and Cries said:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=1344975#post1344975
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?p=1344812#post1344812
Not to say this can't be a worthwhile thread.
Smiles and Cries
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If Square Enix does not have the big guns - FF / DQ - on Rev. at this point I would be shocked it they shuned Nintendo again.
You were listening to wishful fanboys Tabris, I saw those threads. Wada never officially said a word, & FF:CC was done by the Game Designers Studio. A paper company set-up by the Q-fund, which offered studios very low interest rates on money loaned to develop software that specifically supported & exploited the GC/GBA connectivity. Nintendo even published FF:CC in NA, UK, & EU afaik. It's acheived platinum sales-status.
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Tabris said:
Actually no, it took Squaresoft some time to work with Nintendo. People swore up and down Squaresoft and Nintendo would never work again but Nintendo somehow managed to work with Squaresoft.
Anyway great news for the Revolution.
Doube D said:The company will throw nini a bone or 2 to keep their DS lineup goin, but an FF or DQ ye will not see.
Why should they "throw GCN or Revolution a bone" when Sony is salivating for them to support PSP instead. No, there's more to this I think. SquareEnix has been looking to online gaming for a while now and they've seen the PC & celphones as their best choice (neither involving Sony). Now that Nintendo is looking for a free/easier way to do online gaming, not only with just NDS, but also Revolution and now it seems possible with the new GBA incarnation also going online Mr. Wada seems to want in on that. I think he's imagining games being played seamlessly cross-platform and with Nintendo covering home consoles with Revolution, the higher-end portable market with NDS and the low-end mobile market with the new wireless GBA...I think he's seeing his dreams coming closer to fruition. Imagine games that can be played at home or on the go...the home would act as that players "village, town or kingdom" while out and about in "the feilds" where players can battle online or in person adding more to the adventuring element of such a game. It almost makes games feel more "real" 'cos of not only interacting with in game characters, but also live people over the net or out in the battlefeilds with you. Different events could be held at different Nintendo kiosks, cafe's...or they could even use Nintendo's theater ventures to interact with players.
A neverending adventurous game likes this selling to not only console players and hi & low end portable gamers has so much potential to grow and expand by reaching so many different markets.
Jonnyram said:
I had my concerns about this, but when you put it like that, I guess this would be a really good idea. I'm looking forward to hearing more about their online plan. Although I've never tried online gaming, this has me really excited.
Strong Square-Enix support for DS and Rev would be incredible. Them supporting both Nintendo and Sony's consoles will definitely make next-gen very interesting.
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Spike said:
hmmmm something like that I remember PSTwo came out around the same time a major Square online game did. Forgot what it was but the fuss on GAF was funny
Spike said:
i agree...
also if square decides to be exclusive to a console, they pretty much decide that consoles fate in japan... square probably knows that and if they wanted to really screw sony they could do so.
that being said, i don't really expect square to give nintendo exclusive FF next gen... it's much more likley that it would be multiplatform for rev and ps3.. everybody says multiplatform games will be the rule next gen, even for the big franchises that have been exclusive this gen, because of increased development costs. i think thats probably true, and i don't see why final fantasy and dragon quest would be any different than other big third party games.
Before the PStwo ever came about, Sony were screwing Square consistently with the online delays. Square had to wait a long time for Sony to come up with a HDD plan for the US, and lost a lot of potential revenue with the delay. It also fragmented the community that Square wanted to be global from the beginning. The PStwo losing HDD compatibility was like icing on the cake.
McPhineas said:
thats why games will probably be made with the weaker system in mind just like they have been this gen.... also i know the sony hype train is taking off latley, but the early buzz was that the difference between the consoles will be much less this time, and even if it's not, i think your going to run into a point where devs are unwilling to put in the extra work to take advantage of all that power, especially when every game next gen will look great anyway... why put in way more time to make a game take full advantage of a single system when you can ease off, release it for two systems and still end up with an incredible looking game?
anyway we don't know enough about sony and nintendos systems to assume anything yet, although it does seem like the graphics cards of all three systems will be similair, even if the ps3 has way more processing power.
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McPhineas said:
This is now fact?
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They also decided to be cocks and remove Japanese-language input support from the US release, but that is neither here nor there. Certainly speaks to fragmenting the community though.Jonnyram said:
Smiles and Cries
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My guess is Square won't burn any bridges with Sony at this time if at all.
But I would not be shocked if they have stuff in the works for the Revolution and they take the stage at the Nintendo Conference
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I'm getting excited for E3 now... I just got SPAM from Nintendo.Com
they are sending E3 Newsletters out all next week
But I would not be shocked if they have stuff in the works for the Revolution and they take the stage at the Nintendo Conference
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I'm getting excited for E3 now... I just got SPAM from Nintendo.Com
they are sending E3 Newsletters out all next week
Haha... brings back memories. My petition got 1038 signatures. I didn't think Sony had anything to do with it though - more to do with the fact that they licensed the IME software and didn't want to pay for the license for US distribution (that few people would use).Kobun Heat said:
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consider that the consensus developers have as far as Revolution goes. well, atleast all of those that matter.
i've said it a million times now, developers are supporting this thing on principle alone.
umm, isn't sony the second largest (or one of the largest anyway) single shareholder in saueenix? How exactly could square "burn bridges" w/ one of its top shareholders. Put down the pipe folks... ;p
And developers supporting the revolution on principle alone? lol. Again, stop w/ the crack. First, developers don't make the decision who they make games for, publishers do. And second, publishers couldn't care less about "principle", they care about ONE thing and ONE thing only, the all mighty greenback.
And developers supporting the revolution on principle alone? lol. Again, stop w/ the crack. First, developers don't make the decision who they make games for, publishers do. And second, publishers couldn't care less about "principle", they care about ONE thing and ONE thing only, the all mighty greenback.
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Doube D said:
yes, the greenback, and the potential to make more of the greenback. Of course a lot of them are willing to make money from other countries as well.
Johnny Nighttrain said:
I find it hard to beleive that it is really THAT good. I would love for it to be true, but Nintendo has burned me so much leading up to now its damn hard. If whatever the hell Nintendo is doing has attracted developers as strongly as you claim I cannot fully express my happiness.
Wow do I sound like a fanboy. :lol
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Jonnyram said:
Simple as that problem solved
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When they put FF on Revolution Sony might sell all their shares and swear off the company forever, so who knows.