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[Fess]

To give you an idea, here's a CIG employee panicking when his coworker speculates that release may *only* be 5 years away in a recent stream

Was that for Star Citizen or Squadron 42?

I understand that SC will keep evolving, can be a blessing or curse depending on how greedy they are and if they have a functional game progression with a start and ending or not.

No Man's Sky evolves every year, and I keep starting over, sometimes it's annoying and sometimes it's exactly what I need to keep the interest up. I still haven't payed a single cent outside of the base game though.

 

[iHaunter]

I keep wavering as to whether this is a scam. On the one hand, they do have a playable product which lots of people enjoy so it's not like they're literally doing nothing.

On the other hand, they are so woefully late and their progress towards the finish line has been stuck at a complete standstill for years. Part of what makes this feel scummy is that they continue to make so much money doing things like selling ships for a game that barely exists or even selling ships that only exist a concepts.

It's not a scam. Misguided, over their heads, maybe. Not a scam.

 

[ParaSeoul]

This is reaching the cost of an actual space program

 

[MonarchJT]

While it's not a game yet, technically there's nothing that comes close to star citizen

 

[plushyp]

You do understand that the tears and teeth-gnashing of haters are absolutely hilarious for those who are actually playing and enjoying the game, yes?

You all spend your time dropping ludicrous quantities of shit on the work of over 700 developers (seriously, you should be ashamed), and yet, absolutely none of it sticks. The game continues to become more popular and continues to receive increasing amounts of support. Absolute losers like Derek Smart (look him up lol) are the funniest, but unfortunately he hasn't ventured here yet, which is surprising, because he likely spends half of his life googling places where he can shit on SC.

It must be really frustrating for ya'll to have found a game against which irrational internet outrage and FUD don't work at all, and as someone who has seen the livelihood of many ruined by it, it's very, very sweet to see for me.

 

[OptimistPrime]

Despite what the internet might tell you, it's possible to be skeptical without being a jerk at the same time.

 

[Halo is Back]

Butthurt? What part of mocking you and the other haters for being butthurt by the fact that this game exists and its support continues increasing means that I'm butthurt?





It already made another $3 million since this thread was posted. So it isn't $400 million. It's $403 million. Deal with it.

What's there to deal with? It's not my money being wasted on this project. The truth is, CIG is no different than any other AAA developer, except they are the masters of milking thier fans for a snail's pace of production.

 

[Fare thee well]

Be sure to help them raise more for the best damn space sim ever. They got collectable pins and shirts!!! I just can't wait for exploring those 90 star systems, crewing a huge vessel with 100s of my friends at once, playing through the immersive Sq42 campaign with Mark Hamil next year, and experiencing endless rewarding exploration.

Anyway get your pins
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/SC-Collectible-Pin-Set-Series-3/Set-Of-5-Alien-Ships

 

[Captain Toad]

Cue thread full of bile and anger from people who believe that other people should not like what they like and should not be allowed to spend their money to support whatever they want.

Right.... Just like people shouldn't try to warn me about getting involved in a pyramid scheme. If I think it sounds like a good way to spend my savings, you should encourage me, so I don't feel stupid.

 

[Captain Toad]

I wonder how much of that money donated will be from people no longer living when the game finally releases.

 

[luffie]

Imagine you pre purchase an upcoming Honda model that is supposedly out 3 years later.

3 years later the company got so much money but the car is not out, they say they are adding more features, probably out in 2 more years.

2 years later, they tell you they are adding other groundbreaking features so it's still not out, but you can try their broken prototype.

Meanwhile they also said that they will be releasing even more awesome Honda for an even higher price while showing you just a jpeg.

3 years later, they tell you it's coming out, at least the mini version (sq42), 2 years later.

2 years later, they tell you they are going to release a roadmap to the roadmap of your Honda. There is no estimation of when you will get your Honda. But of course it's not a scam, because you can still ride the broken prototype.

Do you think it's a scam? For those who think it isn't, take a look at Nikola truck story, they have staffs, factory and a prototype too .

 

[IDKFA]

This game is so ambitious that they can't even finish it with 400m in funding. When it's completed in 2030, it'll surly be the most expensive game (experience?) Ever made.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Do you think it's a scam? For those who think it isn't, take a look at Nikola truck story, they have staffs, factory and a prototype too .

Man, that Hindenburg Research report was such a good read.

 

[Lord Panda]

I'm curious what CIG's cash burn rate is.

Off the top of my head, I think CIG comprises of 5 studios and over 500-600 employees. Kinda nuts how big the company has grown.

 

[MightySquirrel]

Feels good knowing you're test driving the most expensive Ferrari ever being made.

It does have unfinished paint job or some interior pieces not finalized, but the experience you get is nothing short of amazing that other common cheap made cars will corners cut every where will never be able to offer. I test drive it once or twice a year and it's pretty awesome to see all the improvements done to it each time.

 

[AJUMP23]

I gave $100 9 years ago. I have played the game 2 times and didn't like the flight controls. I want SQ42, and that is all I really care about.

 

[MightySquirrel]

I gave $100 9 years ago. I have played the game 2 times and didn't like the flight controls. I want SQ42, and that is all I really care about.

Elite dangerous still feel better with a stick for sure, but with M&K star citizen is great.

 

[Lightjolly]

Real question how is Star Citizen any more of a "scam" than Anthem or Battlefield 2042 or cyberpunk?

I can understand those that bought the game the first year expecting it to release soon only to see its been 5 years or so, but everyone else still buying the game must go in knowing its still in development and might always be, that it might actually be a scam, yet they still purchase it, enough for it to reach 400 million USD

Is that worse than being lied to by false advertising of a game thats supposedly complete?

Like whats the difference between a BF2042 buyer and a star citizen buyer right now? They are both playing incomplete games and only have the devs words that "its going to get better"

 

[Ozzie666]

I look forward to the documentary about this game in 10-15 years, it will be like digging up ET cartridges.

Hey, I hope it releases and make people happy, maybe it will shock everyone. Everyone loves a good redemption story. I still think that ambition is spiraling out of control and Roberts is out of his league in modern game development. All I hope for is that the employees are getting paid, no matter what happens.

 

[Trimesh]

Real question how is Star Citizen any more of a "scam" than Anthem or Battlefield 2042 or cyberpunk?

I can understand those that bought the game the first year expecting it to release soon only to see its been 5 years or so, but everyone else still buying the game must go in knowing its still in development and might always be, that it might actually be a scam, yet they still purchase it, enough for it to reach 400 million USD

Is that worse than being lied to by false advertising of a game thats supposedly complete?

Like whats the difference between a BF2042 buyer and a star citizen buyer right now? They are both playing incomplete games and only have the devs words that "its going to get better"

It's been a bit longer than that. The Kickstarter was late 2012 with a projected delivery date of 2014, which was at the time projected to include Squadron 42 as well as the main Star Citizen game. So right now it's 7 years past the original stated delivery date and we don't even have a clear idea when its supposed to the finished.

Having that that, I don't personally think it's a scam - it's just a project that was already ambitious and that has suffered from massive scope expansion and apparently has management that's either unwilling or incapable of triaging the spec down to the point where it represents something that can be delivered in a non-geological timescale. I really hope it does reach a valid "1.0 release" state at some point, but to be honest I would be far from amazed if it never does.

 

[Negotiator101]

I am pretty sure Squadron 42 have been finished already a while ago, but why should they release it now when they still get a ton of donations and from microtransactions. Once Squadron 42 have been released, it will become much quieter and their income will be much smaller. It will continue to shrink until they are forced to start on a new project.

So honestly why not keep squadron 42 back and earn shitloads of money and don't have too work much at all (only making some small additions and modifications when they feel like it).

What in God's name are you going on about? Basically condoning them conning their customers out of their hard earned money.

 

[Bodomism]

This is similar to Smach Z portable gaming Kickstarter situation.

 

[xiseerht]

Question. So can we actual play the game or are we just giving them money to be in the cool crowd?

 

[Haggard]

Question. So can we actual play the game or are we just giving them money to be in the cool crowd?

Depends on your definition of "Play". Currently it`s more of a compound of different mechanics/modules that have not really been fused into one thing.

You can test the "game" for free every now and then during free flight events.
Think one of those events is just running till the 1st of december.

edit: yes it is

Play Now Star Citizen

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

robertsspaceindustries.com

Like whats the difference between a BF2042 buyer and a star citizen buyer right now? They are both playing incomplete games and only have the devs words that "its going to get better"

One actually gets a game he can play, albeit with some bugs and questionable design choices, the other gets a mostly broken alpha techdemo that`s been a mostly broken alpha techdemo for a decade with a management that has missed every single deadline, broken every single promise and rewrites roadmaps how they see fit.
The comparison is just stupid hyperbole, but you knew that already when you wrote it.

 

[Lightjolly]

Depends on your definition of "Play". Currently it`s more of a compound of different mechanics/modules that have not really been fused into one thing.

You can test the "game" for free every now and then during free flight events.
Think one of those events is just running till the 1st of december.

edit: yes it is

Play Now Star Citizen

Roberts Space Industries is the official go-to website for all news about Star Citizen and Squadron 42. It also hosts the online store for game items and merch, as well as all the community tools used by our fans.

robertsspaceindustries.com

One actually gets a game he can play, albeit with some bugs and questionable design choices, the other gets a mostly broken alpha techdemo that`s been a mostly broken alpha techdemo for a decade with a management that has missed every single deadline, broken every single promise and rewrites roadmaps how they see fit.
The comparison is just stupid hyperbole, but you knew that already when you wrote it.

Theyre both playable, and theyre both broken alpha games missing a heck load of core features and buggy. One lied about how long it would take to fully release and the other lied about how complete and ready the game was worthy of your $60.

 

[Haggard]

Theyre both playable, and theyre both broken alpha games missing a heck load of core features and buggy. One lied about how long it would take to fully release and the other lied about how complete and ready the game was worthy of your $60.

bullshit....
There`s worlds between a buggy early release and nothing to release at all.

 

[Lightjolly]

bullshit....
There`s worlds between a buggy early release and nothing to release at all.

....They're both Early Access games, only that one doesn't advertise itself as a fully released completed game, even if their management and roadmap of the game is in complete shambles. The other duped your ass into shelling out 60+ for an early access pretending to be complete. You don't get become of the worse rated steam games by just being a buggy early release.

They're both in the same ball park of "scams"

 

[Haggard]

....They're both Early Access games, only that one doesn't advertise itself as a fully released completed game, even if their management and roadmap of the game is in complete shambles. The other duped your ass into shelling out 60+ for an early access pretending to be complete. You don't get become of the worse rated steam games by just being a buggy early release.

They're both in the same ball park of "scams"

The amount of hyperbole in your statements is off the charts.
utter nonsense.