Why would beings who are able to build amazing astronomical megastructures, that we are able to spot from over 1400 light years away, even bother? They would regards us as we would ants. A tinge of curiosity, minimum annoyance maybe, but ultimately irrelevant if we're going on with our day to day incomprehensible meaningless existence.
However if we started building Dyson Spheres, yet still carried on with our warlike aggressive tendencies, then yes, they will most likely take notice.
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What if the aliens are the size of ants. Or the size of mountains.
If a civilization has the ability to create a Dyson ring 1400 years ago and we are not yet dead. Then the speed of light is a hard limit.
What if those structures are the aliens?
If that's what it took for us to actually start investing in space research in a big way then send in the Space Marines.
Come on, just think of all those juicy resource rich asteroids we caninvadeliberate. I hear there's a whole moon full of hydrocarbons too.
Well we didn't have radios 1400 years ago now, did we? In fact it means we should be relatively safe for at least another 1300 years.
I would think that they would at least want to research us. They couldn't have gotten to where they are by not researching things that they don't know about. If they exist and if they could get here, I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't come here.
Maybe it's a Dyson sphere a civilisation has built which would fall into the Type II civilisation on the Kardashev scale.
Exactly. Our radio waves haven't even reached them yet. They could be zipping all over the galaxy and miss us because they'd have to get within 100 light years of us to even know we exist.
I have heard unusual noises from my basement. It could be mice... or it could be an alien civilization.
I think the most craziest thing to imagine is how many planets that have life evolved to be intelligent, and just failed to make it out of their own backyard, dead and forgotten forever.
And this is assuming that a spacefaring alien species that has discovered the concept of a Dyson Ring didn't see any reason to interfere with us and thus haven't. Why are we so quick to assume that we're the only species that is smart enough to come up with a concept such as the Prime Directive from Star Trek.
If a civilization has the ability to create a Dyson ring 1400 years ago and we are not yet dead. Then the speed of light is a hard limit.
Or they're the ones that seeded life on earth.If a civilization has the ability to create a Dyson ring 1400 years ago and we are not yet dead. Then the speed of light is a hard limit.
I agree. I always found the arguments that a super intelligent alien species to likely be callous, ruthless and lacking in empathy to be rather unrealistic.And this is assuming that a spacefaring alien species that has discovered the concept of a Dyson Ring didn't see any reason to interfere with us and thus haven't. Why are we so quick to assume that we're the only species that is smart enough to come up with a concept such as the Prime Directive from Star Trek.
Probably isn't a Dyson sphere, since we can still see the star. A Dyson sphere would be a bit more distinct. It would be harder to see, since it would be hidden by the sphere, but we would be able to detect the heat radiated from the sphere encasing the star. In this case, it would be more of a ring around the star, rather than a fully encompassing sphere.
That is if this is an artificial structure. The possibility is really exciting though.
I agree. I always found the arguments that a super intelligent alien species to likely be callous, ruthless and lacking in empathy to be rather unrealistic.
In order for a species to grow and expand to such an advanced point and not destroy itself IMO, it would likely require a very high level of empathy for its species and its own environment/planet/co-inhabitants and possess a strong understanding of how to ultimately grow technology in a careful and self sustaining and self-preserving way. A highly intelligent species that evolved along a path of ruthless conquest or a lack of concern for anything but itself would likely die out before ever reaching an extremely advanced level of intelligence.
Probably isn't a Dyson sphere, since we can still see the star.
A species at "Dyson Ring +1000 years" tech having not formed a far-ranging interstellar empire would raise some questions. Maybe they wouldn't have destroyed us in their galactic conquest, but for there to be no obvious signs of expansion when technology generally advances at an exponential rate (along with population in a society with essentially no energy limits) would definitely have to make you doubt that the speed of light could ever be exceeded.
I hope the speed of light is a hard limit. Y'all don't like black people near ATMs but you want aliens to come down? We importing beings to discriminate against? Don't y'all have enough?
I was thinking a couple of days ago, imagine for a second that you wake up tomorrow and every channel is showing the same images again and again and humans have concrete evidence of the existance of God. Like footage of God coming down from the sky and walking among us.
So if it wasn't natural, what's the scale? A bunch of satellites like earth has or a full on planetary defence system?
A Dyson sphere doesn't encapsulate a star entirely I think.
So if it wasn't natural, what's the scale? A bunch of satellites like earth has or a full on planetary defence system?
If a civilization has the ability to create a Dyson ring 1400 years ago and we are not yet dead. Then the speed of light is a hard limit.
If a civilization has the ability to create a Dyson ring 1400 years ago and we are not yet dead. Then the speed of light is a hard limit.
What makes you say that? Surely that's assuming that the civilization in question would want to attack us?