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Star exhibits strange light patterns which could be a sign of alien activity
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They wouldn't see anything.
Have we got a giant space refinery that harvests energy from an entire star?
Wouldn't you like to know?
ultratruman
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pretty cool story 
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I think the idea an alien species would need such massive amounts of energy is short-sighted. It's like how people thought it made sense that aliens would travel in flying saucers, when we already have drones and robots. It's a view based on where we stand today.
I agree. But. .. once you get aperture fever. ..ok imagine automation trivialized creating machinery. .. they might be littering their system with massive telescopes.
ultratruman
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is this a CertifiedFP thread?
JensenBeeswax
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A species advanced enough to build objects of that size would probably be bad news. We'd be vermin to them.
I hear this is how you defeat the mocking bird.
Ray Wonder
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Pretty nifty. Curious to see what the dish picks up.
Why? I never really got that argument. Yes, we were very bad news for the native Americans and Africans and every other society we discovered and weren't as advanced as we are. But if you want to draw historical lines -> society tends to get more morally advanced with time too. If you reason they had a similar advancement as ours, their views on alien life like us that is far less advanced could be 'live and let live', because moraly they are in a place were they don't look down anymore on other, less advanced cultures... They could have the Star Trek rule of 'don't intervene' for all we know.
(But it is bullshit anyway to draw historical comparisons. We don't know how an alien race would be culturaly, or how they would've evolved)
And anyway, if this is a sign of alien life, we're looking at their world 1400 years ago. Who knows what has happend in that time.
Ray Wonder
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Best case scenario is the take us into the galactic society and teach us their ways, worse case is they take us, do tests on us, eat us, do whatever they want to us.
I don't think I would want to take that chance tbh.
Maybe they will want to make human hybrids? I'll go put on my procreatin' loins.
The Elite
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Or they know we're here and choose to leave us alone to develop.
worst key scenario: we learn their technology, build advanced war machines and then enslave them. Never underestimate atrocities a human is capable of. If anything, an advanced civilization will be too comfortable to understand creatures that take advantage of survival .
JensenBeeswax
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That's actually a really good point. Maybe they'd be morally advanced to a point where they would help or at least ignore us.
DragonSworne
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Is there a reason why you think they aren't already here?
Chance we ever reach them is very slim. Chances they allready know we're here is far greater i would say
But i get your point. Better safe than sorry
Maintenance
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Maybe we are them.
Animals probably think we're the aliens spying on them from bright unknown flying objects.
Epsilon-delta
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I would flip my shit if it is proven to be a Dyson ring.
Cool story.
Cool story.
Even if it were blindingly obvious, I can't imagine something nearly 1500 lightyears away will be proven in our lifetimes. It will remain speculative until we can get a much, much better look at it.
Sapiens
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And then Scotty is inside all drunk and shit.
efyu_lemonardo
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The bolded is yet to be determined, hence not considered Natural in the same way as more abundant and well known phenomena, I imagine.
Might as well flush the money down the toilet, it'd be as effective.
Worse. They'd see the middle ages.
John Kowalski
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They are probably watching you from your bedroom window!!!
efyu_lemonardo
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I think a civilization that is past the capability to create Dyson swarms is probably capable of establishing more than one independent colony in their stellar neighborhood.
Even if they are gone, means other wont be...
Sapiens
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So, hypothetically, if it is alien life and they're sufficiently advance to the point where they are harnessing a significant portion of their sun's energy, and we're observing them, they've potentially been watching us for eons.
And if they are watching us, they are seeing us as we were in 600 AD - if they can even see anything at all.
Amazing.
Like many have said though, it might be better if they are not aware of us and we remain hidden.
The idea of observing a technologically advance civilization, even if from a great distance and the information we can contain is limited, is tantalizing.
And if they are watching us, they are seeing us as we were in 600 AD - if they can even see anything at all.
Amazing.
Like many have said though, it might be better if they are not aware of us and we remain hidden.
The idea of observing a technologically advance civilization, even if from a great distance and the information we can contain is limited, is tantalizing.
80s Bad Guy
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They just forgot to turn off the light before they left.
runningjoke
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So they've had a Dyson sphere for 1500 years and they are looking at us being all Gladiatory. To them we'd be what ants are to us.
borborygmus
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I wonder what aliens' observational sense(s) would be like. They would not have eyes or ears since we wouldn't share any common ancestors with them.
I guess they'd seem like sentient plants to us.
Or maybe my post is really dumb. I can't tell right now because I'm experiencing a food coma. /Yawn
I guess they'd seem like sentient plants to us.
Or maybe my post is really dumb. I can't tell right now because I'm experiencing a food coma. /Yawn
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I read through the article and nowhere the authors mention anything about extraterrestrial life activity. Explanations of the light dips go from inner to outer phenomena occurring in the star's circumference but nothing else.
Edit: The claim is based on a phone interview, sorry.
Edit: The claim is based on a phone interview, sorry.
efyu_lemonardo
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No self respecting scientist would ever mention such a possibility explicitly in one of their publications.
because everyone knows the magazine editors are aliens
Funyarinpa
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It's the Ringworld, duh.
Someone get Bertrand Russell on the phone.
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