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Star Ocean 3 1up review...
- Thread starter Doom_Bringer
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It's not a negative review. I liked the game. Fact is, I liked it better than I think most people will. It's just that there's some pretty obvious ways it could have been made better.
EDIT: Also, Valkyrie Profile beats the living fuck out of Star Ocean 3, whacko voice acting and all. They shoulda made another one of those instead.
DFS.
EDIT: Also, Valkyrie Profile beats the living fuck out of Star Ocean 3, whacko voice acting and all. They shoulda made another one of those instead.
DFS.
ferricide said:
Hey, at least I'm not the GAF-certified worst reviewer ever. Or however the fuck I'm supposed to spell it
I haven't played Shadow Hearts or Nocturne yet, but they both sound worth the effort. The RPG market this fall is interesting -- there's no big stomping must-buy Final Fantasy kinda title, but there's a good breadth of fun games. Lot of stuff to suit different tastes.
some other dude said:
I was about that stoked on it early on, gave it game of the show two TGSes ago, but it wore down a bit in finished form, unfortunately.
DFS.
RevenantKioku
PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS PEINS oh god i am drowning in them
Shadow Hearts was merely an okay RPG. Good fun, but needed a lot of tweaking. I take it SH2 got that?
Drinky Crow
Banned
Good review, Mista Smith.
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zylo
Unconfirmed Member
1up also gave TOS a 7 and that was one of the better rpgs to come around in a while.
Shouta
Member
Yeah, story tapers out later on and the AI is garbage. Battle balance is a bit wonky just because Nel's Boomerang killer move is ungodly powerful. Also it's terribly floaty and the hit detection could use some tightening. It's not bad at all like a fair amount of people make it out to be but it definitely could've been a better effort.
Edit: Oh and if SO3 just had a tightened hit detection and the AI from Symphonia I think a lot more people might like it =P.
Edit: Oh and if SO3 just had a tightened hit detection and the AI from Symphonia I think a lot more people might like it =P.
zylo said:
Yeah, Symphonia's another example of a fun game that still has a ways to go in key areas. I actually liked Star Ocean more (which I think reverses the conventional wisdom), although now that I think about it, I'm not sure the reviews read that way. Things always seem to turn out like that in the fall. Something to work on in the future.
Shouta said:
When I first started to notice the problem, it was Cliff's moves that were sticking out. He has that one where he jumps up and launches a bunch of strikes at mid-range that makes Fayt and Nel just pointless in the medieval-political-dorking-around stages of the game.
DFS.
Semjaza Azazel
Member
ferricide said:
I believe this news.
Are you going to be the one reviewing it for your magazine?
Semjaza Azazel
Member
I guess it depends on who you are. The Shin Megami Tensei titles and Paper Mario 2 are big stomping must buy titles for me personally lol. I have no clue how well either would do in terms of sales, but it doesn't directly affect me anyway.
Just one small criticism I'd have for the review itself (otherwise it's pretty much spot on):
Not sure what your basis in saying this was, just because all of the SO games have had realtime combat.
That's why this winter is going to be fantastic, thanks to DQ8. (at least as far as I can tell)
5.Tabris said:
RevenantKioku
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MoxManiac said:
Dog$ is a pretty harsh bastard though. Not that it always seems unjust, his views just always remind me of like Edge or something. Oh well, with Growlanser coming later than expected, and the fact this tri-ace game is being published by SE, it shouldn't be hard to find. So Phantom Brave is the thing to snag next week for me. SMT soon too, rock.
Drinky Crow
Banned
I really can't imagine it being worse than SO2.
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
Banned
Playing SO2 made me physically ill (really). I think the massive reverb they put on every single track was the main culprit, but the abysmal event section and monotonous graphics didn't help any.
I don't get it. Did everybody forget that SO3 got just "ok" reviews when it came out last year in Japan? And did everyone forget that Star Ocean 2 was pretty mediocre at best to begin with?
I pretty much expected this game's overall scores to hover around 8 or so, so this isn't very far off of what I was expecting.
I'll be waiting for the price drop. Next week belongs to Phantom Brave.
I pretty much expected this game's overall scores to hover around 8 or so, so this isn't very far off of what I was expecting.
I'll be waiting for the price drop. Next week belongs to Phantom Brave.
Hahaha, so it ain't awesome just because some dude at 1UP didn't like? Okay :rollereyes:Doom_Bringer said:
chaostrophy
Member
WarPig said:
With more and more RPGs adding real-time elements to battles now, it's surprising no one's "borrowed" Valkyrie Profile's brilliant, elegant combat control scheme. Allowing the player to unleash the party's destructive potential in real-time with a few button presses is so much more satisfying and fun than worrying about switching back and forth between characters.
As for real-time multi-character battle systems, I sure as hell hope Final Fantasy XII's combat is better than that of Star Ocean 2 and .hack...I found both of those to be pretty much unplayable.
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zylo
Unconfirmed Member
I don't feel like starting a new topic for this so here's gamespys review
http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2/star-ocean-till-the-end-of-time/541308p1.html
I didn't see it posted, sorry if it's old.
http://ps2.gamespy.com/playstation-2/star-ocean-till-the-end-of-time/541308p1.html
I didn't see it posted, sorry if it's old.
Diomedeskun
Member
Star Ocean 2 is the only RPG in which I have regularly looked forward to random battles. It had a wonderfully complex character development system (with some flaws: it was a little obtuse and the random beginning traits were annoying), a fascinating relationship system, and my favorite battle system in an RPG ever.
The characters were a little weak, but they were mostly enjoyable. The story was weak too, but I overlooked that because I loved the game so much.
At the time I played it, I only ranked Final Fantasy (most, but not all, of the series), Xenogears, and the Suikoden series (2 released shortly after) above it as far as RPGs.
Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy Anthology, Suikoden 2, Star Ocean 2, and Grandia all released in a 6-7 month period. I don't think I have ever played and loved that many RPGs in a year since (of course, I was still in college then and had recently quit my part-time job, so I had time to play them).
Bring on Star Ocean 3.
The characters were a little weak, but they were mostly enjoyable. The story was weak too, but I overlooked that because I loved the game so much.
At the time I played it, I only ranked Final Fantasy (most, but not all, of the series), Xenogears, and the Suikoden series (2 released shortly after) above it as far as RPGs.
Final Fantasy VIII, Final Fantasy Anthology, Suikoden 2, Star Ocean 2, and Grandia all released in a 6-7 month period. I don't think I have ever played and loved that many RPGs in a year since (of course, I was still in college then and had recently quit my part-time job, so I had time to play them).
Bring on Star Ocean 3.
These games are just an acquired taste... Sure, they're annoying in some parts, but like 99% of all games are, in general. It just saddens me to see when generic Western crap scores higher, and games like FFX2 and Kingdom Hearts, score higher (both of these games I couldn't even bring myself to finish, they were so bad, and I usually finish most of the games I buy) and RPGs that try to do something different, gets shot down. Usually, the reviews of this game seem to not like the Item Creation, the battle system, the stuff I find so fun about 1 and 2. But from the sound of it, it looks like they should have kept the system from 2 (my favorite battle system ever) and tightened it.
And - "The game spends that massive stretch of its early movements essentially sidetracked, refusing to let the plot get going in earnest until it's enjoyed a nice long stroll through fantasy politicking and that godawful Star Trek standby, the morality of interfering with a primitive culture." - This has been a staple of all the SO games. Though an SO with a Phantasy Star setting - multiple planets, high-tech, would be like my dream game.
SO2 is still my favorite game of all time. I'm curious to see which one I'd like more. I'm also curious to see how it'll compare to TOS, the best game of the year so far. I've been waiting for it with baited breath since it was first announced. I could give fuck all about Fable, Halo 2, Pikmin 2... this and TOS are the games I've been looking forward to the most this year.
And - "The game spends that massive stretch of its early movements essentially sidetracked, refusing to let the plot get going in earnest until it's enjoyed a nice long stroll through fantasy politicking and that godawful Star Trek standby, the morality of interfering with a primitive culture." - This has been a staple of all the SO games. Though an SO with a Phantasy Star setting - multiple planets, high-tech, would be like my dream game.
SO2 is still my favorite game of all time. I'm curious to see which one I'd like more. I'm also curious to see how it'll compare to TOS, the best game of the year so far. I've been waiting for it with baited breath since it was first announced. I could give fuck all about Fable, Halo 2, Pikmin 2... this and TOS are the games I've been looking forward to the most this year.
FWIW i'd score all three (SO3 and those 2) the same. i gave FFX-2 3 stars, didn't review KH, and gave SO3 a 7.djtiesto said:
SO3's battle system is teh broken. it's not fun. but the game is more than the sum of its parts, and has a consistently well told story and cool environments. even if it's a grind.
Patrick Klepek
furiously molesting tim burton
FFX2 is the most overrated RPG in a long, long time
Kobun Heat
Member
If... if only I had hated harder.eXxy said: