Auron_Kale
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Quick question, for anyone in the UK, where's the best place online to buy movie posters?
Really want to get the McCoy UK poster.
Thanks.
Really want to get the McCoy UK poster.
Thanks.
Star Trek into Darkness |OT| Not very tired at all
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Rodney McKay
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Saw this last night at a 11:15 showing. Well, it was SUPPOSE to be a 11:15 showing, but it was delayed for 15 minutes before the cops showed up and had some guy walk with them out of the theater for some unknown reason. (dude didn't look sketchy, but I think I heard he might have had a concealed weapon and the theater has a no gun policy or something)
ANYWAYS, the movie eventually did start and I really loved it. Pretty cool story that the trailers did a good job avoiding spoilers, some great visuals (apart from one PARTICULARLY awful lens flare that JJ put in there during a rather dramatic moment), and the sound was pretty amazing too.
Ending kinda overstays its welcome with about one action scene too many, but I liked pretty much everything else.
Oh, and I saw it in IMAX 3D and didn't find the 3D very impressive. I think I remember being more impressed with Iron Man's 3D than this. There were maybe 2-3 shots in the whole movie that actually looked really cool and enhanced by the 3D, especially every time the ship goes into warp. Very cool effect with that.
ANYWAYS, the movie eventually did start and I really loved it. Pretty cool story that the trailers did a good job avoiding spoilers, some great visuals (apart from one PARTICULARLY awful lens flare that JJ put in there during a rather dramatic moment), and the sound was pretty amazing too.
Ending kinda overstays its welcome with about one action scene too many, but I liked pretty much everything else.
Oh, and I saw it in IMAX 3D and didn't find the 3D very impressive. I think I remember being more impressed with Iron Man's 3D than this. There were maybe 2-3 shots in the whole movie that actually looked really cool and enhanced by the 3D, especially every time the ship goes into warp. Very cool effect with that.
is that unusual?
Star Trek Wars
Rodney McKay
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Not that I'm aware of, especially what happened with the Dark Knight Rises shooting. I'm just repeating what I heard someone in the theater mumble, so he might not have or maybe he didn't have a ticket, haha.
The 3 cops came in one at the entrance and two walked up the side aisle and just looked at everyone for about 10-15 minutes until they flagged the dude down and walked him out. All I heard was the guy asking "did I do something wrong?" and the police officer saying "no, we just need to talk" or something like that.
Ah I just thought by the way you wrote it that it wasn't unusual to bring one with you.
Can you get contact lenses just for movie viewing?
That's an interesting point, but I'd argue that the humanist angle is (for me, anyway) a philosophical choice which makes the series special in addition to being a key component of the Federation's behaviour. In other words, any show or movie bearing the Star Trek name should have some sort of ethical core, like Kirk learning to do the right thing rather than resort to violence, even if the people and organisations within the narrative do not always behave in a morally righteous manner, as was often the case with Sisko (or the many corrupt admirals in some of Picard's best civil rights episodes). Into Darkness was entertaining enough, but pretty much ignored the moral imperatives of what it was depicting onscreen (even though there was a great opportunity to take an interesting look at early Federation moral grey areas, as you point out) and thus didn't feel much like Star Trek to me personally.
EDIT: While I didn't watch a lot of it due to its general rubbishness (from what I saw), wasn't Enterprise supposed to be about exactly those kinds of challenges (militarisation, inter-species conflict) prior to the creation of the Federation proper in the final episode?
Auron_Kale
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That's what I normally do - I just wear contacts if I know I'm watching a movie in 3D but I wear my glasses more regularly.
Though you'd probably have to pay for the fitting, having at least a box of contacts on hand is nice, especially if you only wear them every so often.
Rodney McKay
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Short non-spoiler answer: Yes, kinda.
Spoilery answer (both movie and Enterprise show):
Funnily enough, Peter Weller actually played a very similar character in this movie and in one of the final Enterprise story arcs. In Enterprise he was some rich mining guy who was Xenophobic to all aliens and wanted Earth to be for humans.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Saw it last night. Loved it. Only had some minor quips about how quickly they flew past some character motivations/backstory, but man it was slick and Benedict is a main draw here.
IMAX well worth it, 3D, yet again, unnecessary.
IMAX well worth it, 3D, yet again, unnecessary.
Saw this yesterday through employer, and it was beautiful and fun and totally worth seeing. however, I got to say I am SICK of Damon Lindelof joints. Dude on the regular disregards establishing stakes and always gotta go having his characters throw out common sense for the sake of him creating heroism.
Every single time there's an away team, the Enterprise imperils it's entire command staff and only them. Aren't there like thousands of crew on board?
Meanwhile most every conflict is resolved by a deus ex, sometimes set on the mantle as a Chekov's gun in the most ham-fisted way. Every hour since I saw it, it's gone down in my estimation. Really unnecessarily weak in spots, which is frustrating.
some nonsense that bummed me out:
Generally the pacing is kind of weird when you stop to examine it. Like
, it's like you just got through what you thought was the climactic conflict, resolved through a whole series of real tense operations, then get a tiny little moment of reprieve, then the stakes rocket right back up to where they were. they already had the stakes of
why not just take that instead of piling on
as well.
anyway, now I'm going off on this piece, but it's got a total Prometheus feel: really awesome in stretches, generally solid premise, fantastic visual aesthetic, with the added bonus of charm and chemistry from the cast, but the story totally falls apart under any scrutiny.
Every single time there's an away team, the Enterprise imperils it's entire command staff and only them. Aren't there like thousands of crew on board?
Meanwhile most every conflict is resolved by a deus ex, sometimes set on the mantle as a Chekov's gun in the most ham-fisted way. Every hour since I saw it, it's gone down in my estimation. Really unnecessarily weak in spots, which is frustrating.
some nonsense that bummed me out:
why the fuck did Kirk steal that scroll thing from the planet they started off on?
why did nobody acknowledge that Khan murdered like 16 million people when he crash-landed into San Francisco--why should I have half-a-shit about Kirk's bullshit resurrection in light of that just having happened?
"he replaced the fuel cells with his crewmates in cryo" then how the fuck are the torpedoes propelled?
"we've got to take him alive!" dog, you can get blood out of a dead body.
Khan pilots a dreadnaut twice as big as the Enterprise by himself (having everyone and their mother say "it was configured for a light crew" again and again doesn't really alleviate this)
why did nobody acknowledge that Khan murdered like 16 million people when he crash-landed into San Francisco--why should I have half-a-shit about Kirk's bullshit resurrection in light of that just having happened?
"he replaced the fuel cells with his crewmates in cryo" then how the fuck are the torpedoes propelled?
"we've got to take him alive!" dog, you can get blood out of a dead body.
Khan pilots a dreadnaut twice as big as the Enterprise by himself (having everyone and their mother say "it was configured for a light crew" again and again doesn't really alleviate this)
Generally the pacing is kind of weird when you stop to examine it. Like
when the Enterprise falls out of the sky
stopping Khan from his kamikaze landing/apprehending him generally
enterprise drive failure
anyway, now I'm going off on this piece, but it's got a total Prometheus feel: really awesome in stretches, generally solid premise, fantastic visual aesthetic, with the added bonus of charm and chemistry from the cast, but the story totally falls apart under any scrutiny.
Crunchy20XX
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Saw a late showing last night and loved it. Had a smile on my face for the full two hours. Feels like the perfect complement to the '09 Trek.
Rodney McKay
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As much as I enjoy these movies I wish they would tone down the action scenes and special effects a bit..
This would have the added benefit of:
A. Slightly shorter, potentially better paced.
B. Less shoehorning in poor plot points to justify some action scene they wanted to do.
C. Cheaper and hopefully faster to produce.
FOUR YEARS between these movies is kinda ridiculous to me for a light, fun action series they are.
They could also do with calming down the tone a bit more often. It's not so much a gentle build up to a climax as it is PEAK, valley, PEAK, valley, PEAK, PEAK, PEEEEEEAAAAAK, PEAK, valley.
This would have the added benefit of:
A. Slightly shorter, potentially better paced.
B. Less shoehorning in poor plot points to justify some action scene they wanted to do.
C. Cheaper and hopefully faster to produce.
FOUR YEARS between these movies is kinda ridiculous to me for a light, fun action series they are.
They could also do with calming down the tone a bit more often. It's not so much a gentle build up to a climax as it is PEAK, valley, PEAK, valley, PEAK, PEAK, PEEEEEEAAAAAK, PEAK, valley.
amishpriest99
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The one time I tried wearing my contacts for a 3D film it was actually harder to see the 3D for some reason, so I just put up with wearing the 3D glasses over my regular glasses.
The Librarian
Banned
In the theater now. Oh god here we go.
Auron_Kale
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That sucks, never had a problem with mine but I do hate the yellow plastic glasses they give you for IMAX, those things suck...
Best 3D glasses I ever wore on top of my glasses were actually the ones you get when riding Star Tours in Disneyland, they have a 'goggle-type' feel and are padded. Real3Ds are okay, but slip off too easily.
Pagusas
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So do you think in the next one we will get
I also hope the next one will come much faster, but with JJ doing Star Wars (and Disney wanting one every 2 years). I cant imagine Star Trek will be touched for a while unless its a new director.
the start of the 5 year mission, or at least the Enterprise exploring deep space? I feel like they are free now to really do something original but I fear they are going to stay lassoed to "repeating with a twist". I really want to see something completely original with this crew as I like all of them so much.
SpeedySwaf
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Saw it today, and really liked it. I think enjoyed it even more than the last film. Less head scratchers and better villains.
I wouldn't mind seeing another TV series based on this universe, even if the budget would obviously need to be scaled down, and perhaps another crew would need to be used.
I guess my only real gripe would be with how they brought Kirk back. I give them credit for setting it up early, what with the girl in the hospital and the dead tribble, but when I think "radiation", I think a person getting cooked from the inside out. I don't see a brain being able to come back from that. I'll freely admit this could be a silly peeve, given the loose science they use everywhere else.
Also would like to see more space combat in the third film. We got a little here, but it consisted mostly of the Enterprise getting pounded.
Also would like to see more space combat in the third film. We got a little here, but it consisted mostly of the Enterprise getting pounded.
I wouldn't mind seeing another TV series based on this universe, even if the budget would obviously need to be scaled down, and perhaps another crew would need to be used.
cheststrongwell
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Fucking great movie. Don't care about the plot holes.
Pagusas
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it feels like they just completely dropped that plot line at the end, or said "Hey, we know there is an invasion force coming at some point, but lets send our most advanced ship on a 5 year mission far away from home anyway!"
Maybe the idea is all the klingons that would know it was humans attacking were killed by Kahn.
Maybe the idea is all the klingons that would know it was humans attacking were killed by Kahn.
SpeedySwaf
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I can see the Klingons being used in the third movie, but what I took from it is that the "imminent" invasion was a partial delusion of the admiral. Additionally, since none of the characters were in Federation uniforms, or using a Federation ship, even if the Klingons did find out about the landing, they may not have had enough evidence to conclude it was the Federation that was there.
There's also the chance that even if Klingons did conclude it was the Federation that was there, it's no guarantee they'll go to war over it. The situation seems pretty similar to the Cold War, with instances where the powers could go to war, but eventually negotiate some agreement that stops it from happening.
There's also the chance that even if Klingons did conclude it was the Federation that was there, it's no guarantee they'll go to war over it. The situation seems pretty similar to the Cold War, with instances where the powers could go to war, but eventually negotiate some agreement that stops it from happening.
The Librarian
Banned
Dear lord that was dumb and pointless. Meh overall.
this is important - don't expect a smart movie (you've all seen Star Trek 2009 so you should probably know this). You're going to watch it because of Cumberbatch and Simon Pegg and, I don't know, pretty CGI effects?
Nardonicus
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the plot issues with the first Abrams Star Trek bugged the shit out of me, and generally that stuff always drives me crazy. But I still have to see this movie in theaters. Basically, only going for ILM goodness and Cumberbatch.
I plan to go see it on sunday... guess not?
Auron_Kale
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Just go see it and decide for yourself?
I have no issues keeping old Trek and ST09's universe separate in my head and loved this movie.
You do have to suspend a lot of beliefs, but it's a good summer film regardless.
Pagusas
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The vast majority of comments and reviews on here are glowing about it. I thought it was incredibly engaging and fun. Yes in the end its not the smartest film ever made, but it has a great pace to it and lots of excitement. I suggest seeing it if you go to movies to have fun and feel good in the end. If your going to a ST6: Undiscovered Country feel you will be disappointed (thought there is a direct quote referenced from it! Good ol' Torpedo Dr. Bones)
IAmtheFMan
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Yeah, you kinda needed to be there. The scene was fine, but as soon as Spock runs down and talks with Scotty, this woman started going "whaaaat? No! No... he can't! Don't die!" while sobbing, not necessarily any emotional response towards the exchange between the two. Mind you, we were in one of the VIP theaters where alcohol is served, so we think that she was pretty drunk by then too.
Liquidsnake
Banned
This is the best thing I have ever read. My GF is the same.............
Liquidsnake
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ProfessorLobo
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I saw it last night, I loved it and I liked it more than Star Trek 2009.
Yeah, the writing gets a little weak in spots (but what Trek movie doesn't) but the movies overall entertainment value and chemistry between the cast really helped mask that in my opinion.
I'd say "Into Darkness" feels like a decent hybrid of older Trek movies with a lot of the JJ-flavor thrown into it. I'd put it in my top 5 favorite Trek films, hands down.
Yeah, the writing gets a little weak in spots (but what Trek movie doesn't) but the movies overall entertainment value and chemistry between the cast really helped mask that in my opinion.
I'd say "Into Darkness" feels like a decent hybrid of older Trek movies with a lot of the JJ-flavor thrown into it. I'd put it in my top 5 favorite Trek films, hands down.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Post more detailed impressions. Let the hate flow through you.
Much like the way a can of air fresher masks the overpowering smell of shit in a toilet frequented by those experiencing chronic intestinal distress?
GO TO THE CINEMA MORE OFTEN THEN!!!!!
I'm shocked, I thought you were going to like it.
The Illiterati
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Liked a few scenes, hated a ton of others. Found I absolutely hate the cast as a whole, besides Cumberbatch. Main complaint is the film is ultimately the most gutless movie I've seen in years. No stakes, no anything.
Liquidsnake
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Jeez. I thought it would be about real sacrifice. Judging from the trailer it seemed we would be at our darkest hour.
Do I sell my tickets?
Great, now everyone is going to shit on JJ when he starts Star Wars.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Do I sell my tickets?
Great, now everyone is going to shit on JJ when he starts Star Wars.
You'll be fine, just stop reading impressions. You might like it.
Do I sell my tickets?
Great, now everyone is going to shit on JJ when he starts Star Wars.
No. Go see the movie and have your own experience. Just because I didn't like it doesn't mean you won't. It's also good to note that Lindelof had a had in writing the script. I saw that in the credits and had a kind of "Aha!" moment, as in "So that's why it sucked." Hopefully Damon L stays far away from the SW universe.
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