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[The Librarian]

Your philosophical question of the day (from sfdebris):
"Can Sisko build a ship so badass it can destroy itself?"

 

[Escape Goat]

Your philosophical question of the day (from sfdebris):
"Can Sisko build a ship so badass it can destroy itself?"

The Defiant almost shook itself apart in shakedown cruises.


So, yes.

/thread

 

[Tobor]

Your philosophical question of the day (from sfdebris):
"Can Sisko build a ship so badass it can destroy itself?"

 

[BattleMonkey]

The Defiant almost shook itself apart in shakedown cruises.


So, yes.

/thread

Sisko didn't build the Defiant

 

[DrForester]

Sisko didn't build the Defiant

He deigned it, which is close enough even if he didn't weld the thing together himself.

 

[Escape Goat]

Sisko didn't build the Defiant

He helped design it.

 

[AceBandage]

What do you mean?
He built that baby by hand. Smithed all the metals for it, even.

 

[DustinC]

I can't believe someone thought that last episode of season 2 for TNG was a good idea for an episode. Especially when they highlight Riker's sexual prowess while Deanna is watching over his comatose body.

Whelp, on to season 3!

 

[DrForester]

I can't believe someone thought that last episode of season 2 for TNG was a good idea for an episode. Especially when they highlight Riker's sexual prowess while Deanna is watching over his comatose body.

Whelp, on to season 3!

It was more out of necessity. Not only was that about the time of the writers strike in the 80's, they also blew a huge chunk of their budget on Q-Who and introducing The Borg, so they were pretty broke.

 

[Tobor]

Ro Laren >>> Kira Nerys. Too bad they couldn't make it work with Michelle Forbes.

 

[Mgoblue201]

I still think "Federation" did a much better job of telling Zefram Cochrane's story.

http://d1466nnw0ex81e.cloudfront.net/iss/600w/219/21232189/935625.jpg[img][/QUOTE]
The moment that the book introduces an original setting, it becomes painfully obvious that the Star Trek characters are a crutch upon which the writers depend. Without the baggage of our preconceived feelings toward the Trek crew, any characters that the writers create are wooden and boring. I would rather watch The Final Frontier than read this book again.

 

[NumberTwo]

Shaka, when the walls fell!

This episode is crazy.

 

[TheFatOne]

I'm on the third season of the original series. So far I have really enjoyed it. I watched all of season 2, and some of season 1. When I finish the third season I will watch all the episode I missed from the first one.

 

[elrechazado]

Shaka, when the walls fell!

This episode is crazy.

such an awesome episode. Wish there were more like this in ST. Random humanoid who communicates just like humans being 99.9% of the galaxy gets boring.

 

[BorkBork]

Ro Laren >>> Kira Nerys. Too bad they couldn't make it work with Michelle Forbes.

Nope.

 

[Escape Goat]

I loved Nana Visitor as Kira. Forbes was too rough around the edges.

 

[The Big Rig]

such an awesome episode. Wish there were more like this in ST. Random humanoid who communicates just like humans being 99.9% of the galaxy gets boring.

The existence of that race makes less sense than every other race in TNG that can magically speak perfect English.

 

[Escape Goat]

Come on, guys. Its a freaking TV show with a budget.

 

[AceBandage]

They can't speak perfect English in TNG.
The Communication Badges auto translate for them (as seen in Voyager).

 

[Escape Goat]

They can't speak perfect English in TNG.
The Communication Badges auto translate for them (as seen in Voyager).

But that doesn't explain why their mouths move perfectly as if they were speaking English.

Illusion ruined. F you, Ace. F you!!!

 

[AceBandage]

But that doesn't explain why their mouths move perfectly as if they were speaking English.

Illusion ruined. F you, Ace. F you!!!

Nanomachines Holograms.

 

[The Big Rig]

They can't speak perfect English in TNG.
The Communication Badges auto translate for them (as seen in Voyager).

Maybe a Universal Translator ala the TARDIS?

 

[elrechazado]

The existence of that race makes less sense than every other race in TNG that can magically speak perfect English.

I know, and it still made for a great episode. So I want more of that, and less ridged brow humans who speak english just fine (yes, through the universlol transloltor)

 

[NumberTwo]

[halfserious]Sure leaves a lot of questions though. Like how do they communicate in order to complete complex tasks like building starships? There is no way they could utilize precise the language needed to carry out things like that.[/halfserious] I appreciate what they were doing though, bringing to attention a issue that should be more prevalent in a series that has humans communicating with hundreds of alien species.

Also, for good measure:

 

[DrForester]

Shaka, when the walls fell!

This episode is crazy.

 

[The Big Rig]

Time's Arrow is awesome. The episode shows how great a character Data can be. Also, Jerry Hardin is amazing.

Its not great sci-fi, but it is very entertaining.

 

[Tobor]

The Inner Light. /single tear


/flute solo

 

[jambo]

Love The Inner Light, might re-watch it some time this week.

Also Family.

Ah fuck it, I'll just start on the whole damn thing!

 

[Zenith]

such an awesome episode. Wish there were more like this in ST. Random humanoid who communicates just like humans being 99.9% of the galaxy gets boring.

ruined only by them having the Enterprise fire a phaser from its torpedo tube.

 

[DrForester]

(Mostly) Great news for Latin America and (maybe) America's Hat.

There is potential good news for Star Trek fans outside the USA who feel they miss out on some of the latest things. Netflix and CBS have announced new licensing deal for streaming TV content in Canada and Latin America. The deals will include at least some Star Trek series. Details below.



Netflix & CBS extend licensing deal to Canada and Latin America

At the beginning of July Netflix began streaming every episode of Star Trek, Star Trek: The Next Generation, Star Trek: Voyager and Star Trek: Enterprise to subscribers in the USA. Deep Space Nine will also become available in October. The Star Trek content is part of an overall licensing deal with CBS. And now Netflix and CBS have cut a new international licensing deal for Canada and Latin America.

TrekMovie is still trying to confirm what Star Trek shows are included in the new deal. So far the only thing confirmed in the official press release are the original Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation for Netflix in Latin America. Netflix announced in early July that it would be launching in 43 countries across Mexico, South America and the Caribbean later this year. However, it is possible that more Star Trek is coming Netflix in Latin America and Canada.

TrekMovie will provide an update when we get more info from CBS and Netflix.



press release

CBS AND NETFLIX ANNOUNCE INTERNATIONAL LICENSING AGREEMENT FOR CANADIAN AND LATIN AMERICAN SUBSCRIBERS

CBS Corporation [NYSE: CBS.A and CBS] and Netflix, Inc. [Nasdaq: NFLX] today announced a two-year, non-exclusive international licensing agreement that will enable certain television shows from across CBS Corporation to be streamed instantly to Netflix subscribers in Canada and Latin America. The agreement follows a separate domestic deal announced between the two companies in February. Terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Beginning in September, and for only $7.99 a month, Netflix members in Canada will be able to enjoy both the current and complete back seasons for CW hit "90210," as well as past seasons of critically lauded fan favorites from SHOWTIME such as "Californication," "Dexter," and "The United States of Tara." Canadian members will also have access to a broad range of CBS library programming, including "Numb3rs," "Sleeper Cell," and "Twin Peaks."

Netflix announced in early July that it would be launching in 43 countries across Mexico, South America and the Caribbean later this year. Under this new deal with CBS, previous seasons of series, including "90210," "Medium," "Nurse Jackie," "Californication" and "Dexter," will be available for Latin American members to watch instantly, as will a broad range of library titles, including the original "Star Trek," "Star Trek: The Next Generation," "Charmed," and "Twin Peaks."

"We are pleased to be partners with Netflix as they rollout their superb service to new markets," said Armando Nunez, President, CBS Studios International. "This new arrangement—which does not compete with U.S. ratings or SHOWTIME’s domestic subscriber base—underscores the popularity of CBS content around the world, and illustrates yet another meaningful way for us to realize incremental value from our vast library of content."

"We are delighted to be expanding our successful relationship with CBS to our newer markets in Canada and Latin America," said Ted Sarandos, Chief Content Officer of Netflix. "We aim to provide the widest possible range of great TV shows so our members can always find something compelling to watch wherever and whenever they want."

No confirmation if Canada will get Star trek, but Latin America will at least be getting TOS and TNG.

 

[Cheerilee]

The existence of that race makes less sense than every other race in TNG that can magically speak perfect English.

http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Companion

The universal translator can not only translate the language of ionized hydrogen into English, it can also determine that this particular cloud of ionized hydrogen is female, and that it wants to have sex with a human.

Kirk, Spock, and McCoy are okay with human/hydrogen sex, and say that anyone who is disturbed by that prospect is the creepy one.

 

[beelzebozo]

. . . has this been removed from anyone else's netflix?

 

[Freyjadour]

I'm still seeing them there although I did notice some of the movies had been taken down last week.

 

[Tobor]

. . . has this been removed from anyone else's netflix?

Nope, all still there. The TV shows, anyway.

 

[The Big Rig]

I'm watching The Chase right now. Probably my favorite episode ever, in terms of the Star Trek fiction.

 

[BorkBork]

I'm watching The Chase right now. Probably my favorite episode ever, in terms of the Star Trek fiction.

It's super entertaining, but contains some really bad science, even for Star Trek.

 

[GDJustin]

When is DS9 hitting Streaming? I watched (and loved) all of TNG for the first time a couple years ago, but didn't get around to DS9. Having it on streaming will be perfect. I've never seen a whole episode of DS9 so it should be pretty awesome viewing.

Edit: I don't wanna re-watch ALL of TNG but I wouldn't mind catching some of it again. Is there any sort of generally agreed upon top 10 or top 20 list, maybe as voted by fans?

 

[beelzebozo]

When is DS9 hitting Streaming? I watched (and loved) all of TNG for the first time a couple years ago, but didn't get around to DS9. Having it on streaming will be perfect. I've never seen a whole episode of DS9 so it should be pretty awesome viewing.

Edit: I don't wanna re-watch ALL of TNG but I wouldn't mind catching some of it again. Is there any sort of generally agreed upon top 10 or top 20 list, maybe as voted by fans?

DS9 is october 1st.

there are articles like the one you mention all over the place, but the inevitable flaw of such lists is that the show is so dense with good episodes picking and choosing ten to be comprehensive just isn't going to work; a lot of the weight of enjoying the great episodes leans on an intimacy with character and crew that cannot be accrued from picking and choosing standout episodes. i realize you have an existing history with the show, so i won't harp on it too much; i'll only say that having a consistent chronology and spending an intense, focused amount of time with the show has a lot of benefits for how you view things that happen. it changes it, significantly.

i have been rewatching it, and these have stood out so far:

"the defector"
"best of both worlds 1 & 2"
"measure of a man"
"darmok"
"time squared"
"deja q"
"yesterday's enterprise"
"hollow pursuits"
"sarek"
"brothers"
"remember me"

and so on.

i love this show!

 

[hoos30]

Edit: I don't wanna re-watch ALL of TNG but I wouldn't mind catching some of it again. Is there any sort of generally agreed upon top 10 or top 20 list, maybe as voted by fans?

Read the OP. The TNG episodes there are a nice 'Best of' list.

 

[ckohler]

The existence of that race makes less sense than every other race in TNG that can magically speak perfect English.

The most unbelievable race are the Pakleds, space faring retards who can't work their own ships.

"We look for things. Things that make us go."

 

[Technosteve]

The most unbelievable race are the Pakleds, space faring retards who can't work their own ships.

"We look for things. Things that make us go."

I loved this episode, it was just so fucking bad that i was won over by it's janky premise

 

[DeadTrees]

The most unbelievable race are the Pakleds, space faring retards who can't work their own ships.

I don't know about that one--how many people drive cars every day, but couldn't change a flat tire?

 

[GDJustin]

there are articles like the one you mention all over the place, but the inevitable flaw of such lists is that the show is so dense with good episodes picking and choosing ten to be comprehensive just isn't going to work; a lot of the weight of enjoying the great episodes leans on an intimacy with character and crew that cannot be accrued from picking and choosing standout episodes. i realize you have an existing history with the show, so i won't harp on it too much; i'll only say that having a consistent chronology and spending an intense, focused amount of time with the show has a lot of benefits for how you view things that happen. it changes it, significantly.

Thanks for the list and the link, but dude... your lengthy "warning" is kinda weird. I've already watched the entire series. I don't need a treatise on continuity and character intimacy. Just wanted to re-watch the series highlights.

 

[Tobor]

The most unbelievable race are the Pakleds, space faring retards who can't work their own ships.

"We look for things. Things that make us go."

Worst episode ever. I love this quote from one of the writers they hired later:

"The point at which we became serious about trying to write a script for the show was about five minutes after watching 'Samaritan Snare,' which in my personal opinion was the most abysmal piece of Star Trek ever filmed. My objections to it were that it always resorted to idiot plotting to make the story work, and that offended me a great deal worse than some of the awful shows which were done on the original series. I thought the way in which it was plotted and the way it was dealt with was an insult to the intelligence of the people who watched the show and the actors and characters in the show. None of the plot could have happened if all of the characters hadn't suddenly became morons that week."
"Someone must have been aware of how hokey it was, because they wrote obvious questions into the script which they chose not to answer. For instance, before Geordi beams over, Worf says explicitly to Riker, 'Do we have to send them our chief engineer because they have a little problem?' and it's never answered. If you don't want to answer it, don't bring it up. Another thing that is stupid is Deanna Troi comes on the bridge and says to Riker, 'I don't sense fear or confusion. Geordi is in danger. Bring him back,' and no one even responds to that. They simply act as if it wasn't said. On the trip over to the starbase, where Picard and Wesley have this long heart to heart talk, Wesley says why would anyone use a defective heart transplant. That's a minor point. A major piece of stupidity is they send him to a medical facility where it turned out that no one was qualified to handle the operation if it went at all wrong. I can't believe they expect viewers to be so stupid as to not ask about that. The fact that the routine was repeatedly said, throughout the show, to be an absolutely routine procedure and when it went wrong, it went wrong for no reason that was mentioned, except that it had to go wrong to have the climax. Then it turns out they have to call the Enterprise to bring Pulaski over to do the operation because she's more qualified and the people there weren't."

Haha, so true.

 

[The Librarian]

Worst episode ever. I love this quote from one of the writers they hired later:

I dunno. The Outrageous Okana gives it a run for its money.

 

[Tobor]

I dunno. The Outrageous Okana gives it a run for its money.

Okuna was dreadful. No doubt. We need a worst episode of Trek ever rundown.

 

[The Librarian]

Okuna was dreadful. No doubt. We need a worst episode of Trek ever rundown.

Then watch them all in one go.

 

[DrForester]

Sub Rosa, The Game, and Genesis are by far the worst TNG episodes (Sub Rosa #1 by a long shot), and all of those were later series episodes.

 

[The Big Rig]

Sub Rosa, The Game, and Genesis are by far the worst TNG episodes (Sub Rosa #1 by a long shot), and all of those were later series episodes.

Oh god. Two of those are in Season 7, which I'm on the verge of starting. I thought things were getting better. Sub Rosa's Wiki is very ...something. A fucking haunted house?

 

[BattleMonkey]

Threshold is hard to beat