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Star Wars: In Production [Rumors/SPOILERS for All Films Past, Present, & Future]
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graffix13
Member
Chris Pratt as a young Solo. I mean, if he's going to be the new Indy...why not?
I'm only half-joking.
Sectorseven
Member
I thought that Australian guy from AOTC was Boba Fett.
Boba aged weirdly.
Also his voice sometimes gets an accent.
Also I think he's from Middle Zealand.
freethought
Member
Just so you know I gave a little scream when I saw this and now everyone in the boat is looking at me.
TheJollyCorner
Member
They'll CLU him up.
Good lord this movie aged worse than I could've thought.
is he supposed to be making cat noises in this scene?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I think he's covering Mumford and Sons.
Well we do have a longstanding rumor about them wanting to make Boba Fett into a "man with no name" type of character where the person under the mask possibly killed Boba and took the armor.
They are in a good position to do this since Boba wears armor at all times post-clone wars.
Course there are some details that make this harder since Lucas altered Boba's voice during a recent re-release.
BEFORE:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a897FGgDJy8
AFTER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDl8g0ZQLdY
They'll CLU him up.
Good lord this movie aged worse than I could've thought.
I dunno, I thought the CGI in that movie was pretty good for the most part.
But then again, I'm not the type to nitpick tiny details just to try to ruin the movie for everyone that enjoys it.
That's Temuera Morrison's voice right? Makes sense as he was an unaltered clone of his dad. Why couldn't they just have him play Boba?
Buddha Beam
Banned
I thought this was just GAF/Reddit speculation?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That speculation didn't come from GAF or Reddit. However, it hasn't been even remotely supported by anything solid since it first hit last year.
What's happening in that gif isn't a "tiny detail," and criticizing it isn't nitpicking. That shit looks fucking awful.
Accents aren't genetic (and accents from childhood that aren't reinforced tend to diminish). Also voice can be pretty heavily affected by other environmental factors. Yet another stupid pointless change.
He didn't even have an accent in Clone Wars.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
People still don't have a really solid idea what the story of this movie even IS, really. We're just all kinda rolling with the idea it's some sort of heist film, centered on bounty hunters. But nothing's really been said one way or the other to make that solid-ish.
All we really know is that Tatiana Maslany is the lead, Gareth Edwards is directing, and Whitta got bounced, Kinberg is overseeing, and Chris Weitz is taking over writing.
All we really know is that Tatiana Maslany is the lead, Gareth Edwards is directing, and Whitta got bounced, Kinberg is overseeing, and Chris Weitz is taking over writing.
It comes from Latino Review from Jan 2014... I think that's the earliest mention
http://www.latino-review.com/2014/01/the-4-most-important-star-wars-stories-of-the-year-so-far/
The Elite
BOSS
I would be ok with that.
They'll CLU him up.
Good lord this movie aged worse than I could've thought.
The eyes seem like the biggest giveaway in this gif, but this is still a lot better than the CG Dain Ironfoot II in BOTFA, a movie that came out 5 years after.
freethought
Member
What makes CLU so egregious is how much he was on screen.
Five Armies needed more CG if you ask me. By my count they were at least one army short.
Sectorseven
Member
It's the tiny details that make or break immersion.
A Serious Man
Member
I'd rather they just leave Boba Fett alone. Young Han Solo too, that's just a horrible idea. I'm sure Episode VII will have enough fan service to satisfy even the most die hard nut, let's just move forward after that.
Editor in Chief of Making Star Wars said his lucasfilm source showed him a publicity photo for the movie. Chewie holding Leia with Han standing nearby. And it was meant to be a sort of new verision of this old Empire publicity photoshoot.
His biggest takeaway seems to be how bizarre it felt to see a 58 year old Leia.
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/01/star-wars-force-awakens-han-leia-chewbaccas-costume-descriptions/
His biggest takeaway seems to be how bizarre it felt to see a 58 year old Leia.
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/01/star-wars-force-awakens-han-leia-chewbaccas-costume-descriptions/
I'm sure Disney will be trying to get the non altered versions out there around the time of VIIs release meaning that the utterly stupid Boba voice retcon will be gone for good (which didn't make sense anyway)
I'm cool with the "man with no name" idea anyway. Gives them a clean slate.
I'm cool with the "man with no name" idea anyway. Gives them a clean slate.
Buddha Beam
Banned
Hmm... I guess I'd be OK with that. I don't like the idea of the "original" Boba getting an unceremonious death like that, though.
Pablo Hidalgo from the story group stated on Facebook a little while ago that the Lucas editions of the films are the canonical versions, the theatrical cuts are "Legends", like the old novels and comics and the like. They will likely be re-released but they are not considered part of canon. Just like how the old novels and comics are getting re-released but as Legends. Making Star Wars has even said that the digital releases they hear that are likely to come later this year will be the newer edits not the theatrical editions after all.
They will say that until the unfucked with versions are announced. Once they are we'll see. Its pretty clear which versions someone like Abrams would be taking as canon.
Abrams doesn't decide the canon. The story group does. Abrams likely barely acknowledges the prequels even existing and never seen the Clone Wars. But they are 100% canon. And one of the leaders of the story group mocked people who trashed the prequels online just a few months ago for example. What Abrams acknowledges has little baring on what is kept in canon.
On another note. Hutts are in the movie and built practically Return of the Jedi style.
http://makingstarwars.net/2015/01/star-wars-force-awakens-will-hutts-return/
Sectorseven
Member
Got a link to this?
And do these people have final cut on the new movie? What's to stop J.J. from putting in a line or scene that contradicts something that happened in the prequels?
practically built hutts would be huge for me... i hope it's true.
cgi will never reach the brilliance of these well-built costumes and puppets.
they are just a marvel to look at. decades from now we'll still be looking at the various creatures in films like The Thing or the Star Wars original trilogy with awe, and even the best CGI will be a throwaway in comparison.
Not to diminish what CGI artists do... but that's just how it is.
I'd like to see more films go the Wild Things route... that mix practical with digital in a way that gets great results
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJPSc_4RCI
cgi will never reach the brilliance of these well-built costumes and puppets.
they are just a marvel to look at. decades from now we'll still be looking at the various creatures in films like The Thing or the Star Wars original trilogy with awe, and even the best CGI will be a throwaway in comparison.
Not to diminish what CGI artists do... but that's just how it is.
I'd like to see more films go the Wild Things route... that mix practical with digital in a way that gets great results
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNJPSc_4RCI
Buddha Beam
Banned
They should totally do like a spinoff movie about time travel and how it causes various discrepancies in the timeline, thus explaining the originals and the revised versions have so many differences.
The original architect of Cloud City was murdered by a time traveling Boba Fett, and the new architect picked up where he left off, but said, "This place needs some damn windows!"
freethought
Member
What about the decision to throw away Lucas' treatment, fire the screenwriter and go with a script by J.J. Abrams and Lawrence Kasdan? Who made that?
Ah, the old "no true Star Wars fan" fallacy.
Can't find the original but a guy on Reddit compiled Pablo Hidalgo (one of the big wigs who lead the story group)'s Facebook posts from his argument he had just yesterday luckily.
The discussion started with someone mentioning doing a Boba film without him being the New Zealand Jango Fett clone from the prequels/special editions:
The guy who made those posts is one of the key people at Lucasfilm deciding what is canon. If it wasn't clear he is pretty damn adamant they will not be doing any sort of Boba Fett retcon.
Regardless of how the movie turns out -- and I'm honestly pretty confident in JJ knocking this out of the park -- at the very least, I really really appreciate this push for going practical as much as possible. A lot of directors say similar things and then almost immediately renege on them (e.g. Spielberg and Indy 4), so it's really nice to see that JJ is actually following through on that in a big way with this film.
Anton Sugar
Member
I am 110% okay with the real Boba being killed by a random stranger, with the potential casting of Fassbender, and a Solo team-up.
Count Dookkake
Member
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freethought
Member
After reading up on the story group on wookiepedia I find it hard to believe any of these people have any actual script authority on this or any other film.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
To be fair, as I understand it, Pablo and Leland aren't necessarily deciding where stories go and what direction the storytelling takes. They're more like fact-checkers. I think it was in this thread, but earlier I compared them to the Okudas on Star Trek: They make sure things don't trip up, and they make sure details line up and such, but I'm not sure that either of them are actively shaping the narrative of the spinoffs or the main series. I believe that's more Kennedy/Kasdan/Kinberg.
It's more that this was posted in late 2014, well after he would have read the draft of the supposed Boba Fett/Han Solo spin-off film. If they were retconning Boba's origin at all in the film he wouldn't have made such a flamboyant mocking of someone suggesting it on his Facebook page. He may not control the script but he has read the script and yet mocked someone for suggesting Boba Fett would not be the version in the prequels/special editions. There is no way he would have ranted like that at someone if that was at all at risk of changing in the Fett/Solo spin-off.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I know, I was just addressing the idea that they could be steering the direction of the storytelling, when I don't think that's their role in the story group.
I agree. It was just more to point out that there is no way this spin-off is going to be retconning the SE/Prequel Boba Fett or else this Lucasfilm employee who has clearly read the script would mock someone and the idea for suggesting it.
Meaning that based on what we have seen Pablo say recently the 2016 spin-off (and Force Awakens) won't be contradicting the prequel/SE origins of Boba Fett.
I was actually surprised how much this idea got under his skin though, he want on a message board sort of fight there.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Sometimes you just see people talking without even taking into account the possibility they have no clue what they're talking about, and you go in.
Not that I'd know what that's like or anything.
on EITHER side of that line, in fact.
Not that I'd know what that's like or anything.
on EITHER side of that line, in fact.
Sectorseven
Member
So if they're casting a new Boba Fett, but it's the same character, does that mean they'll go back and dub ESB again?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
We don't even know that they're casting a new Boba Fett yet, really.
Or just whoever plays him does a New Zealand accent. About a million times easier.
Star power I imagine, Boba Fett has his own pull, but sticking a well known and popular actor would help too. Especially for what I imagine the big wigs would be expecting to be a big film. Temuera was fine as a side character but will the people putting millions of dollars into the film be ok with him leading the film?
Depending on what they decide to do will likely decide how they explain away the newer edits. If a different actor takes up the role they will likely fall back on the rumoured reasons we have already, Fett being a mantle passed down, the real Boba being killed and replaced. The voice issue from the dubbing could just be a voice modulator or something to hide the fact it's someone else.
It's a shame really, if they get a well known actor they will likely want to show his face a lot. Personally I'd like a Judge Dredd like rule to the character, in that we never see his face because the helmet never comes off.
Pablo Hidalgo from the Lucasfilm group mocked that idea and said the Fett in Empire is 100% Jangos son. He said that late 2014 well after the script plot was laid out. He shit all over the suggestion that it would be anyone else so that idea is out.
unholyrevenger72
Banned
Or they could have Boba never take his helmet off like Judge Dredd and have Dee Bradley Baker do the voice.