Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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I can't be the only one that would play a new Rebel Assault game.
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Star Wars: In Production [Rumors/SPOILERS for All Films Past, Present, & Future]
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That footage looks like test or audition shots by a VFX studio wanting to show what they can do than any kind of sanctioned work. AFAIK there were 50 scripts for the Underworld show, according to McCallum and Lucas, but nothing was shot.
I'm right with you - those games were legit.
I'm right with you - those games were legit.
Well the plot to Underworld didn't even sound Star Wars-y in the first place, so this would be right in line with that. I believed the pilot was supposed to be about some bounty hunters who time travel to assassinate Darth Vader or something.
Haha exactly.
block tower
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yea i remember reading about that character. i wonder where this character comes from. sounds interesting enough.
FriendlyGoat
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The XD business is kind of annoying, though I suspect there were other factors involved in the decision to put it there (in addition to trying to give some life to that stupid channel). It seems to me like a good place to take a risk with their first Star Wars production because if it sucked critically and commercially it would be easier to dump and move on from without significant damage to the brand and the channel wouldn't exactly be worse off. If it did well critically, then they could ramp up promotion and sell it for more when it inevitably comes to Netflix (and if it magically pulled in viewers and did well commercially, well all the better).
That sounds really unoriginal. There should never be time travel in Star Wars unless it's a hallucination/illusion brought on by the force.
This is unrelated so I figured it made more sense as a separate post than editing it into the previous one, but in regards to "Uber", Jason Ward from MSW noted in his podcast that there's a part during the battle at the end where the character tells Kylo Ren not to "get sentimental". This could be in reference to him killing Han or them using the superweapon against the Republic forces, but either way it sounds like Kylo Ren definitely has a past with the heroes.
Someone then asked him on TheForce.Net's message board if this meant that Uber is walking around with the rest of the cast in the film (as opposed to being in a tomb like some had speculated) and he said this:
More set-up for Episodes VIII and IX, I suppose.
Also, he clarified how exactly the final lightsaber duel goes:
So this explains how the two novice heroes manage to not get killed by the guy who obviously has lightsaber training - Finn gets beat (and remember, his last scene is in a medical bay where he's visited by Rey before she goes off to return the lightsaber to Luke) and he tosses the lightsaber to Rey who only escapes because of the terrain giving way, which Ward said in a later post might be due to the superweapon going off. So I think we'll be seeing more a more OT style duel here, since Rey and Finn both presumably aren't great duelists. That would be this scene, which people thought showed Plagueis but in reality probably just shows a placeholder Sith before they finalized Ren's design, and which funny enough shows white-Finn before they cast Boyega:
Whether or not Finn is actually Force sensitive seems to be up for grabs at the moment. Ward said that during the sequence where Rose talks about the lightsaber with the main characters, Finn feels an attraction to it but Rey feels repulsed by it, and (because of that?) Rey feels like she knows why the lightsaber "came to her". We could be seeing an ordinary-person's-life-turned-upside-down-by-destiny story via Rey this time around then since the lightsaber seems to have "chosen" her, maybe due to the fact that a true Jedi is not supposed to want to use their weapon but only does so when necessary. Regardless, Finn does use the lightsaber outside of the final battle (again, Ward on TFN):
So either Finn simply uses the saber for a practical purpose like Han did in ESB or they are dropping hints (since he does manage to hold off Kylo for a time with the saber) that he's Force sensitive but maybe nobody really realizes it yet.
Ward also speculated that Rose (the alien character probably played by Lupita) knows Luke and may have been a Jedi or some sort of Force user from between Episodes VI and VII. The newest flashback rumor that he posted has her using some sort of ability to "read" the lightsaber and give the group a vision of its history, but he also stated on TFN that she tells Han at one point that she hasn't seen Luke in some time. He also has described before some concept art that he saw of her with a group of young children and crystals, possibly teaching younglings how to build lightsabers. This is the concept art of when she (or possibly another of her species) talks with Finn, Rey, and BB-8 about the lightsaber:
Someone then asked him on TheForce.Net's message board if this meant that Uber is walking around with the rest of the cast in the film (as opposed to being in a tomb like some had speculated) and he said this:
More set-up for Episodes VIII and IX, I suppose.
Also, he clarified how exactly the final lightsaber duel goes:
So this explains how the two novice heroes manage to not get killed by the guy who obviously has lightsaber training - Finn gets beat (and remember, his last scene is in a medical bay where he's visited by Rey before she goes off to return the lightsaber to Luke) and he tosses the lightsaber to Rey who only escapes because of the terrain giving way, which Ward said in a later post might be due to the superweapon going off. So I think we'll be seeing more a more OT style duel here, since Rey and Finn both presumably aren't great duelists. That would be this scene, which people thought showed Plagueis but in reality probably just shows a placeholder Sith before they finalized Ren's design, and which funny enough shows white-Finn before they cast Boyega:
Whether or not Finn is actually Force sensitive seems to be up for grabs at the moment. Ward said that during the sequence where Rose talks about the lightsaber with the main characters, Finn feels an attraction to it but Rey feels repulsed by it, and (because of that?) Rey feels like she knows why the lightsaber "came to her". We could be seeing an ordinary-person's-life-turned-upside-down-by-destiny story via Rey this time around then since the lightsaber seems to have "chosen" her, maybe due to the fact that a true Jedi is not supposed to want to use their weapon but only does so when necessary. Regardless, Finn does use the lightsaber outside of the final battle (again, Ward on TFN):
So either Finn simply uses the saber for a practical purpose like Han did in ESB or they are dropping hints (since he does manage to hold off Kylo for a time with the saber) that he's Force sensitive but maybe nobody really realizes it yet.
Ward also speculated that Rose (the alien character probably played by Lupita) knows Luke and may have been a Jedi or some sort of Force user from between Episodes VI and VII. The newest flashback rumor that he posted has her using some sort of ability to "read" the lightsaber and give the group a vision of its history, but he also stated on TFN that she tells Han at one point that she hasn't seen Luke in some time. He also has described before some concept art that he saw of her with a group of young children and crystals, possibly teaching younglings how to build lightsabers. This is the concept art of when she (or possibly another of her species) talks with Finn, Rey, and BB-8 about the lightsaber:
Here's the rumor: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/53166
Moff
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at first glance I thought this was the blade runner pc game
damn now I want a stormtrooper tv show, set in coruscant, about some troopers trying to do the right thing
Going to guess those screens are either a test or from the cancelled TV show yeah, definitely not from the movies, that you can tell due to the quality and Stormtrooper helmets.
Is Rebels bombing? Good, it stinks.
Unlike some people I don't mind Han dying, hell I don't mind any of the originals dying. It's got to happen some time. One of the biggest issues Star Wars had for ages after the movies was how non of them were allowed to pass the torch. Anything set up was destroyed or abandoned or said people went evil and had to be taken down.
Plus Han was originally suppose to die at the end of Return, only Lucas by that time didn't want to hurt those sweet sweet toy sales. Because who buys dead hero action figures? Answer would be a lot but he didn't want to take a chance.
Is Rebels bombing? Good, it stinks.
Unlike some people I don't mind Han dying, hell I don't mind any of the originals dying. It's got to happen some time. One of the biggest issues Star Wars had for ages after the movies was how non of them were allowed to pass the torch. Anything set up was destroyed or abandoned or said people went evil and had to be taken down.
Plus Han was originally suppose to die at the end of Return, only Lucas by that time didn't want to hurt those sweet sweet toy sales. Because who buys dead hero action figures? Answer would be a lot but he didn't want to take a chance.
Rebels will live or die based on digital sales and merch sales. Disney knows full well the state of their Disney XD channel, they are intentionally taking the ratings hit because they need high-profile programming to draw in more viewers and that is part of what Rebels is there for.
I don't at all agree that it stinks, I think it's off to a strong start. A hurdle Rebels has to deal with that Clone Wars never did is that it's almost entirely all-new characters, so they have to build a lot from scratch instead of relying on established characters and concepts such as the Clones which Clone Wars really benefitted from.
Lastly, if some of the leaks regarding Rebels are to be believed then we are in for some very compelling arcs in the coming seasons, so I believe it's worth sticking with with it. And once The Force Awakens finally hits theaters, I think the floodgates will really open as far what they are allowed to do and show on Rebels, as the Star Wars Story Team starts filling in more and more of these time periods in-between films, Rebels has only just started to scratch the surface on a lot of this stuff.
I don't at all agree that it stinks, I think it's off to a strong start. A hurdle Rebels has to deal with that Clone Wars never did is that it's almost entirely all-new characters, so they have to build a lot from scratch instead of relying on established characters and concepts such as the Clones which Clone Wars really benefitted from.
Lastly, if some of the leaks regarding Rebels are to be believed then we are in for some very compelling arcs in the coming seasons, so I believe it's worth sticking with with it. And once The Force Awakens finally hits theaters, I think the floodgates will really open as far what they are allowed to do and show on Rebels, as the Star Wars Story Team starts filling in more and more of these time periods in-between films, Rebels has only just started to scratch the surface on a lot of this stuff.
Ahsoka vs Vader, believe.
obin_gam
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The problem with Rebels are first of all that they got an excruciatingly annoying main kid character. They need to dump Ezra stat, for two reasons: 1)kids dont connect to kid characters - they want to be the badass characters instead and dont care if the characters are adults. and 2) he's a kid character and kid characters shouldnt exist.
pedrothelion
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Ezra has room to grow and change. People complained about Ahsoka in the beginning, but her character was the high point of The Clone Wars when it was all said and done.
brotkasten
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I'd rather have a Star Wars live action TV show than something like Rebels or Clone Wars. The art style is so incredibly ugly to me.
Luke Skywalker was quite annoying in the beginning also and didn't become a badass until the third movie.
graffix13
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All a matter of opinion, of course.
I hated Ahsoka during the whole CW series.
I hope she does fight Vader in Rebels and he chops her down.
Tritroid
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I honestly did too, until season 4 & 5. That's when she really hit her stride and I grew to really like her character.
...Even to the point that I shed man-tears when she left the show...that theme that plays when she closes Anakin's hand holding her padawan braid...TEARS!
Secret Fawful
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I want to punch Luke in the face every time he snipes at Yoda in The Empire Strikes Back, and I want to Force choke him every time he snipes at Han in A New Hope. Maybe it's because of the black and white philosophy of the OT, but I don't find anything wrong with Han's outlook on things, especially in such a turbulent time of war in the galaxy. Luke just comes off as a self-righteous, preachy jerk, but that's probably because he is.
I've never been quite sure if that changed in Jedi or not, but I suppose after the revelation that Vader is his father, it had to change somewhat.
CloudyTuba
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Agreed. I love time travel stories but I still don't want any of it in Star Wars. At most, past/future visions. Seeing a future vision through the force and then taking action to make sure that those events don't come to pass is as much time travel as I'd ever want to see.
Not surprised if true. Off to a really slow start, almost every episode seems totally inconsequential. The first time anything of worth happened in the show was the last episode I saw when they
discovered that rebel was actually an imperial and broadcast that message, prompting Tarkin to take action.
The only main characters to be at all interesting are the robot and maybe Not-Chewbacca. Now that
Tarkin
Bobby Roberts
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I don't think Rebels is getting a Season 3. If there's tentative go-ahead for writing those scripts, it's in case of phenomenal success they won't be expecting.
Otherwise, I'm willing to bet you get Season 2 and that's a wrap, move along to the next television endeavor.
Otherwise, I'm willing to bet you get Season 2 and that's a wrap, move along to the next television endeavor.
BattleMonkey
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Doublesith
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Yup. I suspect the higher number of episodes ordered is Disney allowing them to wrap things up.
block tower
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imo rebels isnt a bad show but did several things wrong that really make it hard to watch. for one the characters while different and interesting, arent really written with a lot of depth. the writing and tone of the show doesnt seem as mature as clone wars was which is a major turn off for me. lastly its on Disney DX , it should be on another more accessible channel.
Bobby Roberts
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The biggest problem is the animation, really. Specifically the facial animations.
The much smaller budget compared to Clone Wars is really damaging the ability for these characters to emote in a way that somewhat matches what their voice actors are doing.
The much smaller budget compared to Clone Wars is really damaging the ability for these characters to emote in a way that somewhat matches what their voice actors are doing.
I think the second half of season 1 has been much more "mature" feeling than the first half. But they're trying to go for a lighter OT feel.
Personally I like TCW's feel better as well but I do find it kind of funny that now that they're trying to appeal to OT sensibilities people are finding it kind of offputting.
I think they're trying to go for the Marvel Universe strategy with Star Wars, so I kinda doubt they'll let there not be Star Wars on TV any time soon, even if what they've got on isn't really working. If they have something to replace it with, maybe, but I really doubt any individual thing's fate is being decided on purely by its ratings and no other context. The goal is to expand the property, and that means holding on to duds sometimes.
(I like the show, fwiw, though it's not exactly the most important thing on my to watch list)
(I like the show, fwiw, though it's not exactly the most important thing on my to watch list)
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I think they have a couple irons in the fire regarding a potential replacement series. Something live action is still being kicked around, I believe, although it's not really moving forward all that quickly.
But you're right, especially when it comes to children's programming on cable, ratings aren't the #1 indicator of success. Merch is. I don't know that Rebels' merch is doing all THAT well, either.
The show isn't quite floundering, but it hasn't really succeeded the way they seemed to hope for, neither as a show OR as a means to raise the profile of XD.
My problem isn't that they're appealing to OT sensibilities, but that they're practically ripping them off, right down to the John Williams mixtape soundtrack.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, I don't know if there's a percentage of original Kiner music that goes above 10 percent in any given episode.
WadiumArcadium
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I've really enjoyed Rebels so far. Far stronger start than the Clone Wars but obviously it hasn't reached CW's peak yet.
Bucket Mouse
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Rebels is Diet Star Wars for kids but it's already better than the incredibly overvalued Clone Wars.
GentlemanCrow
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Testify
WadiumArcadium
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JetBlackPanda
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There is no way to deny that season 1 vs. season 1 Rebels comes out on top.
If Rebels wasn't stuck on XD the audience would be much larger.
If Rebels wasn't stuck on XD the audience would be much larger.
Sectorseven
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http://makingstarwars.net/2015/02/star-wars-the-force-awakens-rebel-names-its-a-trap/
So, thoughts on bringing back Admiral Ackbar?
So, thoughts on bringing back Admiral Ackbar?
WadiumArcadium
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It's a...trap.
Something something trap something something alien diaper joke.
Ackbar already seemed quite old in RotJ, much older than say Nahdar Vebb from Clone Wars. (I liked that character!!! why'd he have to die so fast, whyyyy)
WadiumArcadium
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In all seriousness, I think it'd be great. Surely he's been promoted in 30 years though?
block tower
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yea the lightheartedness of the show coupled with the bright and colorful animation just isnt doing it for me. i expected the show to be the same tonally as TCW when i first heard of Rebels, but sadly the show really seems like a lot of the good aspects of TCW was left behind. for me it's like watching the original Batman the animated series and then trying to watch any new Batman cartoon series on TV nowadays, just not the same tonally for me to get into them.
phazedplasma
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Just give him a few white whiskers and some wrinkles. He'd look great.
Also the name Brance is awesome
Also the name Brance is awesome
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found it, i should have looked closer at the article.
yeah it's a good choice if the use it
We really need a Star Wars OT of some kind.
Becuase, while cool, I don't think starting a new thread for stuff like this is going to get much attention:
Witta's replacement opens up for the first time about working on the Star Wars spinoff.
His words: "Expect everything." Well, bring it on then!
http://www.slashfilm.com/chris-weitz-star-wars-standalone-interview/
Becuase, while cool, I don't think starting a new thread for stuff like this is going to get much attention:
Witta's replacement opens up for the first time about working on the Star Wars spinoff.
His words: "Expect everything." Well, bring it on then!
http://www.slashfilm.com/chris-weitz-star-wars-standalone-interview/
WadiumArcadium
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I don't mind making an OT if it's allowed. Some ideas on what could go in it would be nice though. I'm thinking new canon timeline etc.
That's kind of a ridiculous thing to say. I've been comparing episodes from both series back to back and the facial animations in Rebels are as good if not better than those in late season TCW.
It's probably a little jarring coming off of TCW, but generally the tones were intentional. The prequel saga was more violent which carried over into TCW. With Rebels they're aiming for something closer to ANH, lighter moments mixed with a few serious ones. Personally I'm hoping for season 2 to be the ESB of this show.