Thats only a Rumor
I hope he has more screen time
A rumor from the site who got every detail of the teaser right, if they get the trailer details 100% right as well I can't see any reason to assume otherwise when it comes to Luke's role.
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Star Wars: In Production [Rumors/SPOILERS for All Films Past, Present, & Future]
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A rumor from the site who got every detail of the teaser right, if they get the trailer details 100% right as well I can't see any reason to assume otherwise when it comes to Luke's role.
WadiumArcadium
Member
I wouldn't be surprised if the teaser poster is based on that leaked concept art of Vader's burnt helmet.
I am actually really glad this bit made it into the final film it seems. Always loved the idea of Kylo Ren obsessing over Vader.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Couldn't agree more. Love that Vader's legacy will carry on into the sequel trilogy.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I thought the same thing the instant that image leaked. Didn't someone basically just take that image, crop it a little, and throw some text over the top of it?
It's ready-to-go as a teaser poster.
I gotta imagine that shot of Vader's helmet on the pedestal is gonna be the last image of this teaser, right? I can imagine the dolly in on it, light shining down on it, and the hard cut to black and the credit block.
Sectorseven
Member
Let me guess, the Vader helmet is accompanied by heavy breathing.
WadiumArcadium
Member
I always thought this was a great teaser.
The Vader helmet shot definitely has to be the final shot. I'm kind of disappointed that the rebel/Republic base really does appear to be on Yavin IV though going by the teaser description saying that we see Yavin in the trailer. Unless the snow planet turns out to be winter season on Yavin IV.
CloudyTuba
Member
So, Kai-low Ren or Kee-Low Ren?
TheKaeptain
Banned
I bet the Finn shot is the one in the leaked art work. Where he's just turning it on.
Also, I bet Luke is the last thing you see in the trailer attached to AoU.
Also, I bet Luke is the last thing you see in the trailer attached to AoU.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This is the trailer attached to AoU, though.
They can't show too much of him in the marketing because there's not too much to show.
Although that didn't really stop them from sticking Vader in the Episode III trailers, although he had about the same amount of screentime Luke apparently has in this film.
Liquidsnake
Banned
So what I'm getting is that I've waited 30 years to see Luke, and hes in this about 2 min.
Wow. Awesome JJ.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
You didn't really wait 30 years to see Luke. You waited about 3. Because nobody really thought a sequel trilogy was going to get made, at least not with enough surety to wait for it's existence.
But there's always Episode 8 - which will hit Summer 2017.
Han is the big returning character in this one, with Leia doing some important stuff as well. Luke will no doubt be all over Episode VIII since Rey is going to be his padawan.
CloudyTuba
Member
There was a rumor that Luke featured at the beginning and be absent until around 3/4 of the way through.
Then there was a rumor that he would only show up in the end for a couple minutes.
Then there was another rumor that this was a lie and he had a beefier part.
Now people are reverting to the brief role rumor.
Basically the rumors keep flip flopping so dont make up your mind yet.
StormyTheRabbit
Member
One, you're going to see the movie anyways. Two, who said he had to put them into the new trilogy at all to begin with? Stop acting like he owes you something. Three, there is good reason to believe he'll play a much larger roll in the second/third parts.
I'd rather him spread the old crew out some, instead of blowing the entire NOSTALGIA load in one film.
The difference is that MSW has a list of every non-CGI shot in the movie, and Luke only appears in one - possibly two, with one being a brief flashback.
TheKaeptain
Banned
I heard it's a full trailer in front of AoU.
EDIT: Luke will be in it for about 15 minutes at the end. I bet he takes up training the girl and boy.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This is that. It's 1:50.
What they're showing at Celebration is what's going in front of Ultron 2 weeks later.
CloudyTuba
Member
MSW has posted every rumor sent to him, including blatantly contradictory stuff more than once. If I sent in a rumor right now and namedropped a couple industry people that I actually know, it would be on the site tomorrow morning.
Just because MSW is sometimes right doesnt mean MSW is always right. It could be true, it could be trash.
It's not like this is the last movie. If you've waited 30+ years, what's another 1.5?
Bobby Roberts
Banned
They're working from callsheets. You'd have to argue the callsheets are being faked and that all the information coming from them is bunk.
I don't think that argument's gonna hold, though. Especially considering that just the shot descriptions of this coming trailer bear out the veracity of more than a few details from the callsheets.
It's possible that some reshoots will render those callsheets moot in a few instances, but for now, it seems to be a pretty solid guideline as to the shape of the film.
TheKaeptain
Banned
I wonder how many people are going to cry when Han dies?
I'm actually assuming a lot of people will be mad because he doesn't go out in glory in the Falcon.
StormyTheRabbit
Member
I work in the film industry, and on HUGE projects like this it isn't uncommon to exclude/include extra information to throw off news sites off in the event of leaking (which is inevitable.)
TheKaeptain
Banned
He'll go out saving the kids. People won't get mad at that.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I understand, I'm just saying discounting everything that comes from that source out of hand because it's "just rumors" isn't a great call - But it doesn't hurt to keep in mind, if you do choose to roll with the rumors coming from that source, that stuff could be already out of date by the time they got a hold of it, or could be made out of date thanks to editing decisions and reshoots, and could have had things left out of it intentionally like you said.
CloudyTuba
Member
All I was really saying was that Liquidsnake shouldnt start the JJ bashing and the woe-is-me's this early.
Sectorseven
Member
Why did they even announce Mark Hamill's name if his appearance is so brief? They should have kept him as a surprise, like they did with
in Seven.
Kevin Spacey
Yeah, he dies. Kylo Ren kills him. He's also probably Han's son.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
It was out of their hands, really. The trades and Lucas himself had already confirmed their involvement
TheKaeptain
Banned
Why else would Ford be so happy about this movie?
Liquidsnake
Banned
I understand what you guys are saying, no one owes me anything, and 4 years ago I never thought wed be getting these movies etc.................
I have often wondered for the last 30 years what happened after ROTJ. Would we ever see Luke was he like Obi now?
I am disappointed that Luke seems to have very small amount of screen time.
I hope this sets up VIII for him to have a beefy role.
I just want Hammill to be back in the spotlight again. Dude deserves it. He went through lot in his life post Wars.
I have often wondered for the last 30 years what happened after ROTJ. Would we ever see Luke was he like Obi now?
I am disappointed that Luke seems to have very small amount of screen time.
I hope this sets up VIII for him to have a beefy role.
I just want Hammill to be back in the spotlight again. Dude deserves it. He went through lot in his life post Wars.
Or do it at all, really.
Luckily we have the books, comics, games, TV, and spinoff movies to fill in the 30 year gap. =)
I kind of assume we'll have the first few years in the post-RotJ canon universe we relatively similar to the old EU in the sense that there will be splintered imperial factions and warlords fighting a new republic and Luke's new Jedi. But about 15-20 years into that universe it's going to get very, very different going by what we know so far about the background for this movie.
TheKaeptain
Banned
A buddy of mine is betting hard that Finn doesn't make it out alive or whole. Not sure why he thinks this but he started saying it after he went drinking with Devin and some Disney buddies of theirs.
He gets injured to some extent fighting Kylo at the end of the movie, with his last scene being in the medical bay when Rey tells him she's leaving. So he survives, although we don't know the extent of the injury. Could be minor, could be a hand, etc.
He is wrong. Boyega is in this for the long haul. No chance he dies in this. Devin has been very wrong about this movie. Devin and MSW both posted two different teaser descriptions before the teaser came out. Devin got it wrong MSW got it right.
TheKaeptain
Banned
I would assume Luke dies in Episode VIII so that the new heroes will have to face Uber themselves in the final battle in Episode IX. Seems typical for a monomyth structure.
I'm more interested in how long Leia will last.
edit: One thing I really, really want but don't know if they'd be willing to do is bring back Hayden as a Force ghost to try and talk some sense into Kylo Ren. Or even just bring Anakin's ghost back in "Vader form" as that's how Kylo would subconsciously want to see him.
I'm more interested in how long Leia will last.
edit: One thing I really, really want but don't know if they'd be willing to do is bring back Hayden as a Force ghost to try and talk some sense into Kylo Ren. Or even just bring Anakin's ghost back in "Vader form" as that's how Kylo would subconsciously want to see him.
TheKaeptain
Banned
I kind of thought this was the intention when they said it was going to be a cliffhanger.
If Luke dies it will be in the last movie. They have to be Jedi Masters before he dies.
Why? Luke only became a Jedi Knight in RotJ and by then he was the last Jedi in the galaxy.
I mean, it could go either way. Yoda didn't die until RotJ. But I'd prefer to see Luke go out in a big sacrifice at the end of Episode VIII.
prag16
Banned
Hmm, that could actually be pretty cool depending on how they handled it.
We would, of course, have to endure some degree of a shitstorm from "purist" irrational prequel haters if they were to include something like this.
EDIT: That didn't take long: