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[Calcium]

After watching the trailer a few times the one thing that sticks out to me is the narration. Why that dialog? If you listen there is an echo on some of the lines. I think that perhaps both Kylo Ren and Luke are narrating the trailer. So what if Kylo Ren and Rey are actually Luke's children? My father has it (Vader|Luke), my sister has it (Leia|Rey). Maybe Luke is the reason that downed Star Destroyer is on Jakku and he went into exile fearing his own power. Kylo Ren grows up to resent his father for leaving and then when he discovers he is force sensitive he goes off seeking the relics of Darth Vader. His resentment already put him on the darker path and lust for power could push him to the Dark Side. His grandfather conquered the galaxy, why couldn't he?

It fits, but if that is the case then I guess Abrams and Kasdan went to the Lucas "It rhymes!" school of writing.

 

[Cheebo]

After watching the trailer a few times the one thing that sticks out to me is the narration. Why that dialog? If you listen there is an echo on some of the lines. I think that perhaps both Kylo Ren and Luke are narrating the trailer. So what if Kylo Ren and Rey are actually Luke's children? My father has it (Vader|Luke), my sister has it (Leia|Rey). Maybe Luke is the reason that downed Star Destroyer is on Jakku and he went into exile fearing his own power. Kylo Ren grows up to resent his father for leaving and then when he discovers he is force sensitive he goes off seeking the relics of Darth Vader. His resentment already put him on the darker path and lust for power could push him to the Dark Side. His grandfather conquered the galaxy, why couldn't he?

It fits, but if that is the case then I guess Abrams and Kasdan went to the Lucas "It rhymes!" school of writing.

Everything we have got so far shows they are not Lukes kids. Any kids would be Leia and Hans. Kylo Ren is 99.9% Han and Leia's son.

 

[Carl2291]

Now this is a thread I can subscribe to. Love all things Star Wars, even going as far to say I find I, II and III watchable!

 

[Calcium]

Everything we have got so far shows they are not Lukes kids. Any kids would be Leia and Hans. Kylo Ren is 99.9% Han and Leia's son.

Ah, I've probably missed a ton of the rumors then. Any chance that Rey is Luke's kid or are they brother and sister?

 

[Cheebo]

Ah, I've probably missed a ton of the rumors then. Any chance that Rey is Luke's kid or are they brother and sister?

Likliest scenario is Luke has no kids in this film. Rey & Kylo both being Han and Leia's kids.

 

[MattyG]

Everything we have got so far shows they are not Lukes kids. Any kids would be Leia and Hans. Kylo Ren is 99.9% Han and Leia's son.

You think this was meant to be the big reveal of episode 7? I hope we get a crazy Vader reveal level moment from 8.

 

[Tookay]

After watching the trailer a few times the one thing that sticks out to me is the narration. Why that dialog? If you listen there is an echo on some of the lines. I think that perhaps both Kylo Ren and Luke are narrating the trailer. So what if Kylo Ren and Rey are actually Luke's children? My father has it (Vader|Luke), my sister has it (Leia|Rey). Maybe Luke is the reason that downed Star Destroyer is on Jakku and he went into exile fearing his own power. Kylo Ren grows up to resent his father for leaving and then when he discovers he is force sensitive he goes off seeking the relics of Darth Vader. His resentment already put him on the darker path and lust for power could push him to the Dark Side. His grandfather conquered the galaxy, why couldn't he?

It fits, but if that is the case then I guess Abrams and Kasdan went to the Lucas "It rhymes!" school of writing.

You guys are looking at this way too deeply. Just take it at face value that it's Luke's dialogue from ROTJ, placed here for nostalgia and because it likely concerns Rey's lineage.

They added a slight reverb to said dialogue. That's it.

 

[The Elite]

Likliest scenario is Luke has no kids in this film. Rey & Kylo both being Han and Leia's kids.

What if Han and Leia simply raised Rey and she turns out to be Luke's daughter.

"No, I am your father."... Again.


Ok, I hope that doesn't happen.

 

[Calcium]

You guys are looking at this way too deeply. Just take it at face value that it's Luke's dialogue from ROTJ, placed here for nostalgia and because it likely concerns Rey's lineage.

They added a slight reverb to said dialogue. That's it.

 

[B.K.]

Why's it so important that it's Tatooine? So much of Star Wars has been set there - it'll be nice to see some action on a different planet.

Because Star Wars is the Skywalker family saga and Tatooine is the Skywalker homeworld. It's the most important planet in the saga.

 

[TheKaeptain]

What if Han and Leia simply raised Rey and she turns out to be Luke's daughter.

"No, I am your father."... Again.


Ok, I hope that doesn't happen.

That would be awesome.

 

[inm8num2]

What if Han and Leia simply raised Rey and she turns out to be Luke's daughter.

"No, I am your father."... Again.


Ok, I hope that doesn't happen.

It's like poetry. Each stanza is supposed to rhy--- ah, screw it, you guys know the quote.

 

[Flow-Walker]

You guys are looking at this way too deeply. Just take it at face value that it's Luke's dialogue from ROTJ, placed here for nostalgia and because it likely concerns Rey's lineage.

They added a slight reverb to said dialogue. That's it.

No, he recorded the dialog again. They used both his new recording and the original ROTJ recording and combined them to make the echo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XtKJNy2JVU

 

[TheKaeptain]

It's like poetry. Each stanza is supposed to rhy--- ah, screw it, you guys know the quote.

Someone should have told Lucas that poetry doesn't have to rhyme.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

Because Star Wars is the Skywalker family saga and Tatooine is the Skywalker homeworld. It's the most important planet in the saga.

Obviously but not everything has to be set in the same place, especially in a new trilogy telling new stories.

 

[brotkasten]

Obviously but not everything has to be set in the same place, especially in a new trilogy telling new stories.

... in a huge galaxy, with a lot more planets we've never seen.

Limiting yourself to the same location would make the universe feel really small.

 

[GentlemanCrow]

Did this get posted?

Force for Change set visit...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVUAFMVwYm0

 

[Rootbeer]

it's been played many times over the livestream... but I don't think anyone shared the video here

 

[maharg]

Because Star Wars is the Skywalker family saga and Tatooine is the Skywalker homeworld. It's the most important planet in the saga.

Anakin being from Tatooine is honestly one of the dumbest things about the prequels and wasn't at all necessary to have the saga be 'about' the Skywalkers. I'm glad they're not continuing to shrink the universe in the sequels by having only one desert planet in an entire galaxy.

 

[prag16]

Anakin being from Tatooine is honestly one of the dumbest things about the prequels and wasn't at all necessary to have the saga be 'about' the Skywalkers. I'm glad they're not continuing to shrink the universe in the sequels by having only one desert planet in an entire galaxy.

Well then what did you want it to be about? OT was Luke's hero's journey. And as soon as a prequel trilogy was announced everyone in the world knew it was going to be about the rise and fall of Anakin. Anakin being from Tatooine gives a logical reason for Luke to end up there.

I can't believe some of the complaints. "Why does Star Wars have to be about the Skywalkers?" and "It's dumb that Anakin and Luke are from the same planet (even though they're father and son and share family there)" are ones I'm not sure I've heard very often.

 

[maharg]

Well then what did you want it to be about? OT was Luke's hero's journey. And as soon as a prequel trilogy was announced everyone in the world knew it was going to be about the rise and fall of Anakin. Anakin being from Tatooine gives a logical reason for Luke to end up there.

I can't believe some of the complaints. "Why does Star Wars have to be about the Skywalkers?" and "It's dumb that Anakin and Luke are from the same planet (even though they're father and son and share family there)" are ones I'm not sure I've heard very often.

I made no complaint about it being about the Skywalkers.

And the fact that it was a backwater planet in the middle of nowhere was plenty of reason for Luke to be there. If anything, hiding Luke on Darth Vader's home planet is just about the most boneheaded thing Obi ever did given their shared heritage on that planet.

Of course, we were probably one bad Lucas revision away from a shot of Vader looking longingly at Tatooine out of the Star Destroyer viewport in ANH before he thankfully saved us from it by selling out to Disney.

And last but not least, none of these complaints are any more silly (and I'd argue are much less silly) than "why aren't we going to tatooine again when there's a whole galaxy out there to see?"

 

[prag16]

I made no complaint about it being about the Skywalkers.

You clearly did:

wasn't at all necessary to have the saga be 'about' the Skywalkers.

But whatever, I can understand people not wanting the galaxy to feel small. But man. You'd be hard pressed to find another fan base that hates, and nerd-rages about, such large swaths of the source material (yes, yes, only the prequels, etc etc... am I not a 'real' fan because I have the blurays, and I haven't taken episodes 1 and 2 out of the rotation?).

 

[Waldini]

Did this get posted?

Force for Change set visit...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVUAFMVwYm0

Did not see this yet. Thanks!

I like how everyone assumed we were going back to Tatooine ... but were not. Can't wait to see what Jakku has in store for us.

Must've seen the teaser about 10 times now. The music, the looks ... the feels. Everything I hear and see so far looks great. Just exploring the Star Wars universe 30 years of Return of the Jedi. Goosebumps all over.

 

[vladdamad]

Has this fan theory been posted yet? I know that Revan has always been talked about ever since the new films were announced but this is the first time that I've seen someone attempt to put together an admittedly far-fetched proof that he will be a part of the new canon.

 

[maharg]

You clearly did:



But whatever, I can understand people not wanting the galaxy to feel small. But man. You'd be hard pressed to find another fan base that hates, and nerd-rages about, such large swaths of the source material (yes, yes, only the prequels, etc etc... am I not a 'real' fan because I have the blurays, and I haven't taken episodes 1 and 2 out of the rotation?).

I really don't know how you get from what I said to your interpretation of it here. I said Tatooine as a common thread isn't necessary for the saga to be centered on the Skywalkers. How do you get from that that I'm disparaging it being about the Skywalkers? Unless it's just the scare quotes, in which case I was more implying that it's not the *only* thing it's about.

And if you think Star Wars is bad, man, never look at Doctor Who fandom for the same of your sanity.

Personally I think a diverse set of opinionated perspectives are a healthy sign in any fan culture. Critical thinking is important.

 

[Black-Wind]

Is it confirmed Boyega isn't going to be a Jedi? I remember reading a leak where both Finn and Kira are supposed to be trained but I don't know if it's debunked.

I remember it to.
It also talked about the women from 12 years a slave/ GoT more and it said that Finn get's Luke's LS before we actually saw anything showing us that the LS plays any role in this movie. Now we get a pic of him with it in the outfit poster thing.

People seem to think he's not a Jedi because the trailer makes it seem like Luke is talking about family member ...?
IDK the reason, people just seem to be jumping the gun.

 

[TheKaeptain]

Is Daisy still the only three of the new heroes that has signed on for all three films?

 

[Charles Foster Kane]

What is the speculation about Lando's character? Is he the reason the Falcon went missing?

 

[120v]

i don't see how Finn could be the main character without being a jedi... unless they're overplaying his role

 

[TheKaeptain]

i don't see how Finn could be the main character without being a jedi... unless they're overplaying his role

He is one of the main characters.

 

[GentlemanCrow]

i don't see how Finn could be the main character without being a jedi... unless they're overplaying his role

Han Solo says hi.

 

[Moff]

Han Solo says hi.

and leia

 

[JeffZero]

Han Solo says hi.

Han Solo says "Chewie... we're home." And Jeff Zero (that's me!) cries. ;_;

Anyway, I've heard so many conflicting reports on whether or not Finn is Force-sensitive. I'd love it if someone came along and set the record straight, but I'm guessing that's not happening for quite some time!

I'd be so very fine with just one of the new triumvirate being Jedi-destined, though. Either way sounds good to me.

 

[sphagnum]

There's no indication in any of the spoilers that Finn is Force sensitive. He uses Anakin/Luke's lightsaber because Rose gives it to him for safe keeping when Rey refuses it. Then he uses it to attack Kylo Ren, gets injured, and hands it off to Rey who duels Ren to a standstill.

 

[JeffZero]

There's no indication in any of the spoilers that Finn is Force sensitive. He uses Anakin/Luke's lightsaber because Rose gives it to him for safe keeping when Rey refuses it. Then he uses it to attack Kylo Ren, gets injured, and hands it off to Rey who duels Ren to a standstill.

Ahh, I see. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[Cheebo]

i don't see how Finn could be the main character without being a jedi... unless they're overplaying his role

He's a main character, if anyone is THE main character its Daisy Ridley's Rey. By all indications she's our Luke of this trilogy.

 

[MegalonJJ]

Will Finn and Rey hook up? I want to see that.

 

[Moff]

Will Finn and Rey hook up? I want to see that.

I think there were rumours rey and poe will hook up. but I'd love to see rey and finn, too. they look great together and the outrage would be glorious.

 

[MegalonJJ]

I think there were rumours rey and poe will hook up. but I'd love to see rey and finn, too. they look great together and the outrage would be glorious.

Poe is quite a bit older though...Rey and Finn getting down and dirty with sand everywhere, now that I would want to see. Hope JJ does it. Or Rian.

 

[phazedplasma]

I think there were rumours rey and poe will hook up. but I'd love to see rey and finn, too. they look great together and the outrage would be glorious.

I feel like the brother sister dynamic will be better for them.

 

[TheKaeptain]

How about none of them hook up? Why can't they just be friends?

 

[Woorloog]

How about none of them hook up? Why can't they just be friends?

My thoughts. While romance is usually a part of stories like Star Wars, it doesn't have to be included every single time.

(And if they do include a romance, make it Finn/Poe romance... just because.)

 

[CloudyTuba]

No, he recorded the dialog again. They used both his new recording and the original ROTJ recording and combined them to make the echo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XtKJNy2JVU

So they used his new recording as a barely intelligible echo behind reused dialogue. I guess that's cool but it seems like a waste. Why not just use his new recording and have the old stuff as echo? Has his acting gone to shit or what?

Compared the two just to make sure I had it right. Yep, the main dialogue in the new trailer is straight up ripped from ROTJ (rearranged a little and with added bass)

 

[FlutterPuffs]

So they used his new recording as a barely intelligible echo behind reused dialogue. I guess that's cool but it seems like a waste. Why not just use his new recording and have the old stuff as echo? Has his acting gone to shit or what?

Compared the two just to make sure I had it right. Yep, the main dialogue in the new trailer is straight up ripped from ROTJ (rearranged a little and with added bass)

Artistic reasoning most probably.

 

[Beowulf28]

Has anybody who's seen all the leaks confirm for me whether or not there are going to be any space battles?

 

[MattyG]

The second Star Wars Anthology film’s code name is “Tin Can.”

We don’t know what the film could be. It could be the Boba Fett film if that’s ever happening. “Tin Can” kind of reminds me of the Falcon (“What a piece of junk!&#8221 to an extent. Lucasfilm did also register 501st Stormtrooper recently, so maybe it is a Stormtrooper film? Maybe not.

via Making Star Wars

 

[Doublesith]

More pics tomorrow from Vanity Fair.

 

[The Elite]

I remember buying their Phantom Menace issue eons ago.

 

[CD'S BAR]

Now that it seems Kylo Ren is just a human, is it possible that the cyborg we saw in the early concept arts was actually Serkis's Uber character? I've been trying to avoid most spoilers for the past few months, not sure if there's been any word on his appearance.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

Now that it seems Kylo Ren is just a human, is it possible that the cyborg we saw in the early concept arts was actually Serkis's Uber character? I've been trying to avoid most spoilers for the past few months, not sure if there's been any word on his appearance.

It's more likely it was just an early concept and they changed their minds. That or somehow his appearance changes during the film.