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Star Wars: In Production [Rumors/SPOILERS for All Films Past, Present, & Future]
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Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Probably around Star Wars length
FriendlyGoat
Member
They already said the initial cut was 124, so the final will probably be right around there.
bonesmccoy
Banned
What's with the Slashfilm tweet?
And what's a Slashfilm? Never heard of them.
As for the running time, 2 hours is the sweet spot for me. Longer and you risk losing my video-game ruined attention, shorter and I feel like we've missed something.
And what's a Slashfilm? Never heard of them.
As for the running time, 2 hours is the sweet spot for me. Longer and you risk losing my video-game ruined attention, shorter and I feel like we've missed something.
Flow-Walker
Banned
He was basically trying to allude that by not doing the press screenings until the day of release there's something wrong with the movie when he's really just an entitled film blogger crying that he won't get to see it before the peasants who pay for movies.
jossueinacoma
Member
Lol nope... I mean there are gangs (probably) in the bad parts of Anaheim just like any other city's bad parts. Anaheim itself is not one big gang territory.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Did Sciretta delete that tweet? I responded to it yesterday shortly after he put it up. Faraci was wondering the same shit. And I've heard that it was up in the air as to whether press/preview screenings were actually going to be a thing.
The reasoning as to why? Some think secrecy. I personally think it's simply a matter of Abrams (who did this with Into Darkness, as well) essentially doing his part to simply cut that part of the marketing budget out and reallocate it somewhere else.
The money studios spend to do preview screenings nationwide isn't exactly cheap, and for some movies, that expenditure is completely fuckin pointless. It literally does not matter whether they do it or not.
I wrote about this back in 2013 right before Into Darkness opened, actually.
It's still possible that whatever preview/critics screenings they do will simply happen that Monday, while everyone else is paying attention to the premiere in Los Angeles.
The reasoning as to why? Some think secrecy. I personally think it's simply a matter of Abrams (who did this with Into Darkness, as well) essentially doing his part to simply cut that part of the marketing budget out and reallocate it somewhere else.
The money studios spend to do preview screenings nationwide isn't exactly cheap, and for some movies, that expenditure is completely fuckin pointless. It literally does not matter whether they do it or not.
I wrote about this back in 2013 right before Into Darkness opened, actually.
It's still possible that whatever preview/critics screenings they do will simply happen that Monday, while everyone else is paying attention to the premiere in Los Angeles.
You see this in games too. When publishers don't send out review copies until the day of release or not at all thats usually a sign that they are trying to delay reviews because they know its going to get a poor response. I guess some movie reviewers have the same kind of thought process with review/preview screenings. Although I think in this case JJ and Disney are not worried about reviews or quality and instead are focusing on secrecy and not spending the money on something that really is irrelevant for this type of movie.
Perhaps, but maybe there will be screenings but just not that early, probably only a week or a couple of days before the premier.
Honestly, they won't need to do any screenings in order to promote the movie and even if any possible pre-screenings produce great reviews, Disney and JJ are most likely going to avoid creating any sort of expectations, positive or negative. There are no better expectations that the hope of it being incredible, and maybe just some whispers of it being good or great.
Interesting stuff that ties into TFA, some short stories that will be released late this year:
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10...les-in-journey-to-star-wars-the-force-awakens
The Crimson Corsair and the Lost Treasure of Count Dooku
The Lost Treasure of Count Dooku
Can't wait.
http://www.ign.com/articles/2015/10...les-in-journey-to-star-wars-the-force-awakens
The Crimson Corsair and the Lost Treasure of Count Dooku
The Lost Treasure of Count Dooku
Can't wait.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
y u lie kasdan
BlueDogAnchorite
Member
Really looking forward to the new books, and comics myself. 
Flow-Walker
Banned
y u lie kasdan
The rating isn't true since the BBFC doesn't usually rate movies until 30 days out. So I doubt the run time on that is real either.
So as long as ESB at best, shortest SW film at worst.
CreepingFear
Member
Trailer this Friday? Please? Please!
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Trailer sometime this week, maybe. There was never any hard & fast deconfirmation of the initial rumor. And so far as I can tell, nobody's actually come out against the pre-sale date, either.
It's still possible poster/trailer/tickets is gonna hit 1-2-3 sometime around the middle of the week.
ALSO: anonymous reddit post with anonymous reddit rumor apparently based on the novelization, made with a burner account.
Basically - the idea that Rey is Luke's kid? Correct. Kinda.
This all seems to make sense in regards to the plot points we have, and the direction the story goes. The only thing that might make things a little iffy is the idea that Kylo isn't part of the raiding party in the Temple flashback, but is just a student there who the party takes. Which makes sense (and has been speculated before) but doesn't line up with the way a lot of people have been interpreting the (very vague) description of that scene, where Kylo is already Kylo and already bad.
ALSO: Snoke isn't Plagueis.
It's still possible poster/trailer/tickets is gonna hit 1-2-3 sometime around the middle of the week.
ALSO: anonymous reddit post with anonymous reddit rumor apparently based on the novelization, made with a burner account.
Basically - the idea that Rey is Luke's kid? Correct. Kinda.
This all seems to make sense in regards to the plot points we have, and the direction the story goes. The only thing that might make things a little iffy is the idea that Kylo isn't part of the raiding party in the Temple flashback, but is just a student there who the party takes. Which makes sense (and has been speculated before) but doesn't line up with the way a lot of people have been interpreting the (very vague) description of that scene, where Kylo is already Kylo and already bad.
ALSO: Snoke isn't Plagueis.
phazedplasma
Member
I dont get the Plagueis obsession. Where did this come from?
TheKaeptain
Banned
People can't let go off things.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
That's basically it. People (usually some of the same people who dislike the way stories tend to shrink down the universe and make all the characters related to pre-existing characters) heard about a big mysterious bad and immediately jumped to the conclusion it was Palpatine's old mentor somehow - and then just never let go of it, even though there's absolutely nothing supporting the notion other than "It would be cool"
Which a) isn't necessarily true and b) isn't enough.
It might not be that he actually "gave up" on the kid, though, like you're speculating: If Kylo is at the temple as a student, it might be more that Luke prioritized Rey over him, and Kylo simply got snatched before Luke could save him, too. (that whole flashback is so fuzzy, and will remain that way until the novelization actually gets leaked) - it's just that Kylo percieves it as having given up on him.
The rumor there states that Luke was hesitant to train him. Not that he didn't try to do so anyway.
Also, this rumor seems to confirm that we don't actually know any of the ACTUAL names of Rey, Finn, and Kylo Ren. Which is an interesting decision. Curious as to how that will pay off, or if it's just surface level distraction shit.
Which a) isn't necessarily true and b) isn't enough.
It might not be that he actually "gave up" on the kid, though, like you're speculating: If Kylo is at the temple as a student, it might be more that Luke prioritized Rey over him, and Kylo simply got snatched before Luke could save him, too. (that whole flashback is so fuzzy, and will remain that way until the novelization actually gets leaked) - it's just that Kylo percieves it as having given up on him.
The rumor there states that Luke was hesitant to train him. Not that he didn't try to do so anyway.
Also, this rumor seems to confirm that we don't actually know any of the ACTUAL names of Rey, Finn, and Kylo Ren. Which is an interesting decision. Curious as to how that will pay off, or if it's just surface level distraction shit.
FriendlyGoat
Member
I wouldn't equate being hesitant to train a family member, likely for their own good, as giving up on them. Likewise, giving a gifted student special instruction isn't the same as neglecting all the others.
I very much like this rumor. I like the way it sets up a dynamic in a seemingly organic way.
Not knowing Rey and Kylo's real name isn't that substantial if this rumor is true.
The big mystery is Finn.
It seems though that Luke would spend the extra time with Kylo especially since Luke saw what the Dark Side did to his father. That said, this could all just be Kylo's perception that doesn't need to match with reality.
The big mystery is Finn.
It seems though that Luke would spend the extra time with Kylo especially since Luke saw what the Dark Side did to his father. That said, this could all just be Kylo's perception that doesn't need to match with reality.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Kylo isn't his real name, though. It's the name he adopts upon joining the Knights of Ren.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
who?
Kylo is a title, isn't it? I can't remember if that was confirmed or still speculation. (oh, I guess not since it makes no sense for him to be <Title> <Order>, Kylo must be his identifier). So if he really is han and leia's son then the Kylo = sKY soLO really is an on the nose clue as people have speculated for months.
Anyway here are all that guy's comments thus far if you want to piece together what he is saying. There are plenty of people claiming to have special information about the film but he's one of the most credible sounding ones to-date, being that the info he provides fits in perfectly with all the facts we know are true and provides some new insight which makes sense and doesn't sound outlandish or fanwankery.
https://www.reddit.com/user/TFApprentice
Rumor is he is Han and Leia's son. In the now non-canon Expanded Universe they had a son named Jacen who ended up dark side later on.
... and his sister Jaina is the one who eventually kills him. So I think we can see where this is all going in the future films.
Anyway, I hope that some of this is true because while the EU has major issues I think some of the core story elements are very adored by fans, and recanvasing them in this way could be a good approach.
Haloid1177
Banned
Or it just isn't revealed in this film. Gotta keep hope alive.
There is no chance whatsoever of that. Lawrence Kasdan was asked about Plaguies at comic con and was confused by the question and had no clue who the character even was.
prag16
Banned
I like the way you think. Not bad.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
CreepingFear
Member
Being close to Luke puts her in danger. His whole Jedi colony gets wiped out.
Nah, if you watched the panel he seems genuinely befuddled what the guy is asking about rather than playing coy.
There is not going to be any significant major prequel era call backs like this. Especially one so in intertwined into the old EU.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Its called "acting" amigo. Its something that has gone away from this franchise since Lawrence Kasdan's departure, and now he's bringing it back.
They are not going to have a big reveal in this trilogy that hinges on a viewer seeing Revenge of the Sith, let alone recalling a single line from the movie.
prag16
Banned
If we're dealing with some kind of powerful evildoer that basically sat on the sidelines throughout the OT era, I don't see why Plagueis is any worse than some new character. Because "it makes the world too small" or because "fuck the prequels"?They are not going to have a big reveal in this trilogy that hinges on a viewer seeing Revenge of the Sith, let alone recalling a single line from the movie.
I agree that it's extremely unlikely, but some people have a very visceral negative reaction to I the idea which seems extreme.
The reason people like the idea of Plagueis being the villain is because it helps tie all three trilogies together instead of the the PT and the OT flowing together as the story of Palpatine's rise and fall and Vader's fall and redemption + here's this new trilogy. Now obviously we don't know the full plot of the new trilogy yet, but so far it doesn't sound like Snoke is really connected to anything related to the overarching plot of the original six movies. But that's still up in the year.
That said, it won't happen. But it would've been cool if it did.
That said, it won't happen. But it would've been cool if it did.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
I'd rather have cool new characters if it's an option to do so. Yeah, maybe it'd be cool for Serkis to play Plagueis. But I think it's even cooler that he's going to create his own character, unique to this movie.
New characters keep things vital in a way callbacks can't.
New characters keep things vital in a way callbacks can't.
Charles Foster Kane
Rosebud
Sometimes I feel like a noob. Why the Sith never coming back? Isn't a Sith just a force user who goes dark? Wouldn't a "knight of ren" force user be essentially the same thing as a Sith?