I wouldn't hold out any hope for links to the prequels honestly
Star Wars: In Production [Rumors/SPOILERS for All Films Past, Present, & Future]
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I know a guy that would know. He confirmed to me today that Driver is Han/Leia's son and will be called Janus/Jason, but says he thinks it is Janus. He has told me stuff before (about other movies he has worked at) and been right, so I believe him for now.
DiipuSurotu
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I thought they were talking about this guy until the post about him being Han's son. Wut.
Patiently observing the last Jedis and last Siths kill each other? All according to keikaku.
The fact that Ridley and Boyega are always posting pictures together makes me think otherwise. Weasley taking that L
That's quite risky. Isn't this Ridley's first feature film?
How is casting a unknown in a lead risky? It's the norm for star wars. Look at Mark Hamill for example.
CitizenVectron
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I really like the idea of Han handing down the Falcon to a pilot who is disillusioned with the methods/structure of the rebellion (Isaac) and he becomes the new rogue who has a good heart. If Han dies (which I assume he does), what do people think will happen with Chewie? I would assume 3P0 would attach himself to Ridley/Boyega, and possibly R2 (or he would stick with Luke). Or actually, maybe it's more likely 3P0 sticks with Leia (who I assume is leading the rebellion) and we'll get a totally new droid sidekick (the ball droid?).
Pagusas
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So given that all the concept art is proving to be true, does this mean Chewie has a cyborg arm now?
I'm really excited to see what has happened with R2D2. Han I could care less about as I feel Harrison has lost his acting ability. Unless something has changed, I hope they get rid of him fast in the film, if he gives us a performance like Crystal Skull it will bring the whole film down.
I'm really excited to see what has happened with R2D2. Han I could care less about as I feel Harrison has lost his acting ability. Unless something has changed, I hope they get rid of him fast in the film, if he gives us a performance like Crystal Skull it will bring the whole film down.
It's Star Wars. No one ever knows any of the leads prior.
And yeah, all signs seem to point to Gleeson just being in the movie.
DiipuSurotu
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Huh? The leads of the PT were already well known before Episode I.
People knew Jake Lloyd, Hayden, and Natalie?
Ether_Snake
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My thought was that Boyega is basically the new Han, so not a force user. Ridley is the new Lea, will use the force, and she'll hook up with Boyega.
It makes perfect sense "commercially", in a Hollywood-kind of mentality.
It makes perfect sense "commercially", in a Hollywood-kind of mentality.
That means you do care.
Can Crusher
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Why not both (new Han who is also a new jedi)? Otherwise it's just a rehash.
Moff
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look at christensen for example
hamill was not great either, but certainly not as bad as christensen
DiipuSurotu
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Maybe not Jake Lloyd but the others including McGregor and Neeson already had successes.
CitizenVectron
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Ewen and Liam were quite well known, and Natalie was fairly well known as well. Hayden wasn't as much, but was still established if I remember correctly.
Ether_Snake
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Cause the big heads in Hollywood would say Boyega is there to attract the "urban crowd", so he can't fight with this elvish-force thingy, he has to shoot guns and drive fast cars. And he can't have no love interest, otherwise it means someone else who isn't as cool would get the girl and that would make Boyega uncool.
Bobby Roberts
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This isn't what's happening at Lucasfilm. The "Big heads in Hollywood" mindset isn't really at play here.
Boyega had to beat out like 4 white guys to get this role, also.
Didn't variety said a couple months ago that the role was for the lead too?
This is Lucasfilm. And the character he is playing wasn't written as "urban" or black. White actors tried out for it. Most actors who tried out for it were white in fact.
Inferno313
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Yes Boyega and Ridley are the co-leads.
Ether_Snake
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-isAmaVbsM
I think there's a good chance of the same thinking behind this. We'll see.
Eh, they weren't really the trilogy leads. You're right with McGregor, but I look at him the same way I look at Alec or James. Good actors they brought in for experience. Samuel L and Neeson were wasted on their characters, though.
But I was mostly pointing out that the leads (or main ones should have specified) were not house hold names prior to the films. That's all. Rather they had a previous resume before that wasn't my point. We weren't running to see Natalie Portman play Princess Padme.
No there isn't. We know from the spoilers and how it was written and who they were considering for the role and the fact there is concept art of both him and Ridley with sabers. No need to make baseless assumptions
Seventy_X_Seven
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Not sure if discussed yet, but that scene with the supposedly Sith guy appears as if he is looking for something, and when he activates the saber he seems to be looking downward. Then considering the whole "grave digger" thing and that this character has been collecting ancient sith artifacts. What if the saber crackling isn't because it's a DIY saber, but the ancient saber of whoever it is he's trying to resurrect? Perhaps he has made it to the entrance of a tomb and is using the saber to cut through it? Then when he resurrects the dude he hands him his saber.
That would then go along with the theory that it is Han's son, because he wouldn't actually be a Sith at that point, just an artifact collector. The way he appeared in the trailer didn't exactly come off as a highly skilled Sith either.
That would then go along with the theory that it is Han's son, because he wouldn't actually be a Sith at that point, just an artifact collector. The way he appeared in the trailer didn't exactly come off as a highly skilled Sith either.
bengraven
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Palpatine sounds like something you put on a genital rash.
Uh, speak for yourself. While I was a huge Star Wars, McGregor, and Neeson fan, Natalie was my #1 waifu since I saw a making of "Leon" months before that movie even came out. Oh she was on my radar, trust me, and I wasn't alone. She had a lot of fans from Beautiful Girls and Heat as well.
Uh, speak for yourself. While I was a huge Star Wars, McGregor, and Neeson fan, Natalie was my #1 waifu since I saw a making of "Leon" months before that movie even came out. Oh she was on my radar, trust me, and I wasn't alone. She had a lot of fans from Beautiful Girls and Heat as well.
But back then being the lead in the first SW meant nothing. There was no pressure at all. Hamill wasn't great at first, but he stepped up his game later. One could say Christensen did the same, but the script was so bad it's hard to compare.
Pagusas
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I do care, and I could care less (he's still Han after all!) but my range of care is capped at "blah".
No one wants to see a known actor in the leads for movies like this. It just wouldn't work. It wouldn't feel like star wars.
So I was just thinking about that broadsword lightsaber. Maybe I'm not saying anything that hasn't already been said, but I think the purpose of a cross-guard on a sword is to protect the hands, right? In a series that is practically known for people getting hands cut off, that might just be the best invention ever.
It still looks goofy as hell, but hey.
It still looks goofy as hell, but hey.
bengraven
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Hamill was straight up bad in the first film, but he later toned it down. I think that's why he gets a pass and I wonder if Lucas did it intentionally due to Mark's talent at the time. He just wasn't ready.
So the character gets more subtle, he acts more with his eyes than anything in Empire especially. His lines are short and to the point. He's not exclaiming anything. He mutters a few things, but he's not whining about power converters.
He could totally rock it now though.
So the character gets more subtle, he acts more with his eyes than anything in Empire especially. His lines are short and to the point. He's not exclaiming anything. He mutters a few things, but he's not whining about power converters.
He could totally rock it now though.
It's a real set and real actor. They built that forest set.
Lucas doesn't have that mindset, nor does LucasFilms. Boyega got it because he was the best person for the role. You factor in that Variety said he was gong to be a Jedi months back, plus the concept art of the character he's playing and Ridley both holding lightsabers. And he will most likely be getting that Ridley love.
Not to mention many white actors tried out for the role. It's not written as "urban" character and it's pretty bizarre to automatically assume that since he is black.
Perhaps it's just my phone screen then. His walking looks a little strange, glad it's not cgi though.
I agree with this. Luke and Vader both lost their hands in lightsaber combat and there was a rumor that the opening shot of TFA would feature a
severed hand holding a lightsaber floating in space
So having the handle guard seems like it fits right into the universe. Maybe it is an ancient Sith weapon with a rare crystal that beams light to all three sides? Something that only 1:1000000 can do.
Yeah, that too. Say what you want about Lucas, but he despises stuff like that.
Which is also why Ridley will probably be the new Luke in this trilogy since he's stated before he'd like to have a female heroine, iirc.
Unspeakable Evil
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Rumor has that he does get to use a lightsaber. So yeah...
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I don't know why people say Hamil wasn't good in ANH. I thought the character was as you'd expect him to be at that age, it gives him a real progression.
I haven't read spoilers or looked at concept art, it's good to know if that's true.
TheKaeptain
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Can we get a mod to change the title of this thread to Star Wars: The Force Awakens Rumors and Speculation Thread?
Ether_Snake
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So I'm thinking the plot goes something like this:
1- Luke has been away for 30 years.
2- Lea/Han/Rebels/good guys are in a dire situation due to some new threat or resurgence of the empire, whatever
3- Lea/Han's son, wanting to save them, goes out on his own looking for something/someone to turn things around.
4- This is felt as an "awakening" of the dark side, felt by Luke, which "awakens" Luke. Cue the awakening of both the dark and light side.
I'm guessing the cloaked figure is Solo's son and he has his grandad's sabre which he "fixed". The sabre's chaotic appearance symbolizes his attempt at rebuilding something he doesn't quite understands; he doesn't have good control of the force and it shows in how he built the sabre into something unique but somewhat dysfunctional and chaotic.
1- Luke has been away for 30 years.
2- Lea/Han/Rebels/good guys are in a dire situation due to some new threat or resurgence of the empire, whatever
3- Lea/Han's son, wanting to save them, goes out on his own looking for something/someone to turn things around.
4- This is felt as an "awakening" of the dark side, felt by Luke, which "awakens" Luke. Cue the awakening of both the dark and light side.
I'm guessing the cloaked figure is Solo's son and he has his grandad's sabre which he "fixed". The sabre's chaotic appearance symbolizes his attempt at rebuilding something he doesn't quite understands; he doesn't have good control of the force and it shows in how he built the sabre into something unique but somewhat dysfunctional and chaotic.
TheKaeptain
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yeah that's probably what Driver's story is.
Seventy_X_Seven
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I don't really buy into the "it's Vader's saber rebuilt by some one who doesn't quite understand it" theory many are going with. The saber has an extended hilt for the cross guard. I just can't imagine anyone rebuilding Vader's saber with such an addition.
Much more likely it's an ancient Sith artifact and perhaps the force of its original master is still present around it and it possesses Han's son. Why else would Han's son turn Sith?
Much more likely it's an ancient Sith artifact and perhaps the force of its original master is still present around it and it possesses Han's son. Why else would Han's son turn Sith?
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