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Star Wars Jedi Survivor PC Performance Discussion OT: May The Port Be With You
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rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
MiguelItUp
Member
Wtf, I don't think I've ever heard of this being a thing before? Maybe I just totally missed it ever since Denuvo's existence?
T4keD0wN
Member
Steam page usually tell you how many activations are allowed in a certain time period (3-5 a day usually), but EA games for some reason do not even disclose they are using it. So you wont be able to run it when you change any components once you change parts enough times.
Idk why EA are the exception and dont have to disclose this (Valve should do something about it), but perhaps its tokens are just tied to EAs launcher and not Steam?
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
Ok, I took it back.
MiguelItUp
Member
Wild. I NEVER knew that was thing. Makes me hate Denuvo even more, which I didn't know was possible.
Bragr
Banned
That's in the first area, the big issues come later when you hit the open world. I also had no issue in the first level, but when I hit the open-world village area then it became borderline unplayable.
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Gudji
Member
Pretty fucking impressive that they managed to port this game over to the switch.
MiguelItUp
Member
Weird, I didn't have that issue at all. I actually think it improved for me then, lol.
Not that I've read/seen.
Zathalus
Member
Working fine for me, seems to just be a PS5 bug (that does have a workaround).
Kataploom
Gold Member
Probably the HDR is not good enough for Cerny's magic so it kills itself to save some dignity.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
nope. its fine. thankfully.
yamaci17
Member
winjer
Gold Member
Am I there yet? this location runs super HFR for me so far
No. On that scene I was getting 110 fps. You still have half an hour of gameplay before the valley.
TheGejsza
Member
Interesting piece of information on steam discussion - disabling hyperthreading gives a significant boost in FPS -> https://steamcommunity.com/app/1774580/discussions/0/3828665650630385300/
Can someone test it? I am curious about it...
Can someone test it? I am curious about it...
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01011001
Banned
I almost bet this is the same issue the PC is having.
both PC and Xbox use DX12, this is almost certainly a CPU utilisation issue given that there's nothing on screen the whole time that looks even remotely taxing.
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Sentenza
Gold Member
First one runs flawlessly at 144hz (because it's capped there and can't go above, for some reason) for me.
First one was dogshit on PC and they never fixed it.
Keep your money and give it to someone competent.
If that's the amount of "issues" people are experiencing with the second, maybe I should just stop to listen to the internet whine altogether.
That aside, I don't have time for anything else now that Age of Wonders 4 is releasing, so let's see where they get with few updates.
amigastar
Member
I still have to properly play Age of Wonders: Planetfall. Planetfall seems also better than Age of Wonders 4.
aries_71
Junior Member
What a POS has DirectX become. Maybe it always was.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Apparently disabling hyperthreading or SMT (AMD) helps. This is a weird port.
01011001
Banned
DX12 is great, developers these days are not... that's the real issue here.
games don't release finished anymore, what you see here is a developer who released an unfinished game.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
We onto something on the Steam forums with this hyperthreading SMT business
Gudji
Member
Sentenza
Gold Member
Eh.
No, it doesn’t.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Go with 3080. Just dont expect a locked 60 fps at 1440p max settings RT off.
PS5 is like 960p internal in its performance mode, blurry as fuck, and drops frames to 40 fps so why bother?
lol, you listed everything except for the GPU.
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amigastar
Member
I'm all for a better game. So why AoW 4 is better than Planetfall?
I think they might be comparable quality wise.
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Zathalus
Member
Didn't mention the GPU as I was focusing on CPU due to me mostly being CPU limited. GPU is a 4090 though.
yamaci17
Member
okay u were right, open hub area is definitely problematic
it can run at high avg. smooth framerates but can also have erratic slowdowns... feels like it could be patched or improved... i will try an aggresive framecap like I did with TLOU and see if that smooths out the stutters
its still better than I expected tho. locked 35 is definitely possible. 40 is a stretch
1:12 very large stutter
and some slowdowns later on :/
the spiky dudes also slow frames a lot for some reason XD ima give 40 fps lock a try tho
it can run at high avg. smooth framerates but can also have erratic slowdowns... feels like it could be patched or improved... i will try an aggresive framecap like I did with TLOU and see if that smooths out the stutters
its still better than I expected tho. locked 35 is definitely possible. 40 is a stretch
1:12 very large stutter
and some slowdowns later on :/
the spiky dudes also slow frames a lot for some reason XD ima give 40 fps lock a try tho
rnlval
Member
This game spreads its CPU load across multiple CPUs, hence it scales with 7950X's 32 threads.
This game runs fine.
Visual display settings:
- 4K resolution (3840 x 2160)
- Selected all EPIC options
- Enabled Ray Tracing
FPS without AMD FSR 2 : ~68-90
FPS with AMD FSR 2 Quality: 93 - 115
GPU VRAM usage: ~9 GB to 18 GB
PC specs:
- AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
- AMD X670E (ASUS ROG X670E Hero, BIOS v1302)
- 32 GB DDR5 6000 MT (G-Skill Neo RGB 6000 CL30)
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (ASUS TUF OC),
- Seagate FireCuda 520 NVMe PCIe 4.0 2 TB
- Seagate FireCuda 530 NVMe PCIe 4.0 2 TB
- NVIDIA Display Driver version 531.56
- Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
This game runs fine.
Visual display settings:
- 4K resolution (3840 x 2160)
- Selected all EPIC options
- Enabled Ray Tracing
FPS without AMD FSR 2 : ~68-90
FPS with AMD FSR 2 Quality: 93 - 115
GPU VRAM usage: ~9 GB to 18 GB
PC specs:
- AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
- AMD X670E (ASUS ROG X670E Hero, BIOS v1302)
- 32 GB DDR5 6000 MT (G-Skill Neo RGB 6000 CL30)
- NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 (ASUS TUF OC),
- Seagate FireCuda 520 NVMe PCIe 4.0 2 TB
- Seagate FireCuda 530 NVMe PCIe 4.0 2 TB
- NVIDIA Display Driver version 531.56
- Microsoft Windows 11 Pro
What preset?
rnlval
Member
Define these "other games".
Here is how the Koboh Outpost runs on the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D with an NVIDIA RTX 4090 (Native 4K, Epic Settings, No Ray Tracing).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4Q-1R9kp4
I've also seen reports that RT is broken even when the option is enabled, and that you have to set it Off and then On. That's a false report. Here are some screenshots. The first is with RT Off and the second is with RT On after relaunching the game (and not making any changes to the graphics settings). You can easily spot the RT improvements on Cal's hair and the better AO on the right. You can also see on the left the same grass shadow issue that occurs in A Plague Tale: Requiem when you enable RT (the grass shadows take a hit and look worse). So yes, RT works fine and you don't have to disable and re-enable it.
I could also easily replicate on both NVIDIA and AMD GPUs the RT bug that can decrease performance if you don't restart the game. Whenever you enable/disable RT, you need to relaunch it, otherwise performance will be worse than it should normally be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE4Q-1R9kp4
I've also seen reports that RT is broken even when the option is enabled, and that you have to set it Off and then On. That's a false report. Here are some screenshots. The first is with RT Off and the second is with RT On after relaunching the game (and not making any changes to the graphics settings). You can easily spot the RT improvements on Cal's hair and the better AO on the right. You can also see on the left the same grass shadow issue that occurs in A Plague Tale: Requiem when you enable RT (the grass shadows take a hit and look worse). So yes, RT works fine and you don't have to disable and re-enable it.
I could also easily replicate on both NVIDIA and AMD GPUs the RT bug that can decrease performance if you don't restart the game. Whenever you enable/disable RT, you need to relaunch it, otherwise performance will be worse than it should normally be.
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Buggy Loop
Member
Fucking hell, the games' already massive download size, Steam like double the folder GB to unpack/install momentarily, had to delete a bunch of stuffs on SSD
Captn
Member
I have almost the same system and getting exactly the performance you are getting but on Windows 10.
Asus TUFF gaming Wifi X670E
7950x (Soon the 7950x3d which I have set a side for now until the burning cpu issues are solved)
Gigabyte 4090 OC
Gskill 32gb DDR 5 6000 CL 30
Western Digital Black M2 PCIE 4.0
Amazing game as of now for me.
I hope they patch it soon though for the low/mid range hardware people despite the fact that I have practically 0 issues, it is still unacceptable to deliver a game like this for the majority of hardware configurations out there.
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Pyral Phoenix
Member
Okay, so stutters are now gone when I disabled hyperthreading/SMT
That's for fact working
I used to have stutters everywhere but now they are totally gone!
My Specs
MSI Pro Carbon WiFi
5800X3D
Gigabyte RTX 3080 10 GB
32 GB G.Skill Ripjaws 3600 MHZ (XMP ON)
Samsung 970 Evo 2TB
2K Samsung Odyssey G7
As for the actual performance, I don't really know, changing things up is not doing anything for me, or at least the differences are minor.
So currently I'm going with EPIC for everything with RTX ON, FSR OFF (that's not good tbh, but it doesn't make a difference anyway for me)
I forced ReBAR with Nvidia Inspector as well
I'm getting anywhere from 45 ~ 60 (That's not depending on anything on screen, I actually got in the same places, mind you, up to 140 fps in the same friggin' scenes and places)
All in all, there's definitely something wrong with this game, my CPU isn't even doing anything and I don't know if even FSR is working, I've got no performance gains from it at all.
I'll be doing more testing tomorrow with other Nvidia inspector and control panel, though doubt that'd make any difference.
I'm sure thought that for some reason SMT off does something
That's for fact working
I used to have stutters everywhere but now they are totally gone!
My Specs
MSI Pro Carbon WiFi
5800X3D
Gigabyte RTX 3080 10 GB
32 GB G.Skill Ripjaws 3600 MHZ (XMP ON)
Samsung 970 Evo 2TB
2K Samsung Odyssey G7
As for the actual performance, I don't really know, changing things up is not doing anything for me, or at least the differences are minor.
So currently I'm going with EPIC for everything with RTX ON, FSR OFF (that's not good tbh, but it doesn't make a difference anyway for me)
I forced ReBAR with Nvidia Inspector as well
I'm getting anywhere from 45 ~ 60 (That's not depending on anything on screen, I actually got in the same places, mind you, up to 140 fps in the same friggin' scenes and places)
All in all, there's definitely something wrong with this game, my CPU isn't even doing anything and I don't know if even FSR is working, I've got no performance gains from it at all.
I'll be doing more testing tomorrow with other Nvidia inspector and control panel, though doubt that'd make any difference.
I'm sure thought that for some reason SMT off does something
Captn
Member
FSR does make a difference for me and my CPU is running between 25-30% usage. Using all 32 threads to some level.
4090 & 7950x
With FSR quality 4k maxed out with RT on : Average : 90-120
Without FSR 4k maxed out with RT on : Average : 70-90
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Bojji
Gold Member
This game major problem is being CPU hog but it can eat up a lot of VRAM so 8gb cards could have problems depending on the settings (?).
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
That whole level has drops to 40 fps for me on my 3080 11700k. Your CPU is holding up surprisingly well.
How do i disable hyperthreading?
GymWolf
Gold Member
Why the hell does he look like Craig?