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Star Wars |OT| I have a very good feeling about this...
- Thread starter WadiumArcadium
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R2 escapes on his own to go look for Obi-Wan. Luke and 3PO go after him and they run in to Obi-Wan.
WadiumArcadium
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Yeah because Obi-Wan's been going by the name Ben since he settled on Tatooine. It's not an introduction, it's just Obi-Wan confirmiing that he goes by that name as well..
graffix13
Member
https://youtu.be/s4UhQ4hZzRM
There it is. Luke asks him "Obi Wan Kenobi. You know him? Is he a relative of yours?" "Is he dead?". Obi-Wan replies " Oh he's not dead. Not yet anyways. He's me".
So...I can accept Luke knows Ben Kenobi but at the end of that web comic he says he is Obi Wan Kenobi.
So Luke forgets his name in 5 years? Doesn't make sense.
There it is. Luke asks him "Obi Wan Kenobi. You know him? Is he a relative of yours?" "Is he dead?". Obi-Wan replies " Oh he's not dead. Not yet anyways. He's me".
So...I can accept Luke knows Ben Kenobi but at the end of that web comic he says he is Obi Wan Kenobi.
So Luke forgets his name in 5 years? Doesn't make sense.
Awesome, I was hoping for English translations.
Luke: "Obi-Wan Kenobi? I wonder if he means old Ben Kenobi?"
C-3PO: "I beg your pardon, sir, but do you know what he's talking about?"
Luke: "Well, I don't know anyone named Obi-Wan, but old Ben lives out beyond the dune sea. He's kind of a strange old hermit."
No. Kenobi tells Luke in the comic his name is Ben. He reminds Owen his name is Obi-Wan.
BrokenFiction
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Kathleen Kennedy dropped an interesting tidbit today:
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.c...wars-trilogy-continues-skywalker-family-saga/
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.c...wars-trilogy-continues-skywalker-family-saga/
Discotheque
Banned
han solo and boba fett aren't exactly fresh characters.
rogue one looks like a step in the right direction though but the other two are contradictory. that skywalker family saga drop though...i can't wait to see who she's talking about.
rogue one looks like a step in the right direction though but the other two are contradictory. that skywalker family saga drop though...i can't wait to see who she's talking about.
BrokenFiction
Member
I thought the more interesting bit wasn't that, but the confirmation that one of the new characters, Rey more than likely, is a Skywalker.
For reference, the Korean comic is "grey canon" - Jennifer Heddle said this is "leeway for cultural interpretation". Whatever that's supposed to mean - I can't really think of anything in the comic that is specifically distinct to Korean culture, unless it's that Luke still looks pretty in ESB. The fanbase has generally taken this to mean it's canon unless something contradicts the films, especially since LFL said that the OT YA adaptations are canon except for obvious comedic intrusions.
This will never happen, but goddamn it I want this to happen. Cad Bane is what a Star Wars bounty hunter should be.
Plus he has such a wonderful voice.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
She didn't really confirm that at all, though.
In fact, when she said almost exactly the same thing back in May at a press conference in Japan, people took it as a sign that Rey was OBVIOUSLY a Solo.
So now, five months later when it shows up in a CostCo magazine, it somehow "debunks" the previous rumor it started?
Nah.
Tizoc
Member
Wait Biggs knows Luke? Is this brought up during A new hope?
As I posted before, In 3-4 episodes of the 3D series, he's proven to be more competent than Dooku, Greivous and Ventress combined.
As I posted before, In 3-4 episodes of the 3D series, he's proven to be more competent than Dooku, Greivous and Ventress combined.
Yes, moreso in the special edition version.
BrokenFiction
Member
So who of the new characters is a Skywalker? It could be Finn, seeing as he's used the lightsaber, but I doubt it's Poe Dameron.
He's always known Luke. The SE made it more obvious when they reinserted the scene of the two of them in the hangar bay before the Battle of Yavin.
Can't tell if this post is a joke or not but just look in the Ep VII spoiler thread.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
If people previously thought she was Han and Leia's kid, but now think (after digesting the exact same quote in a different medium) that she could be Luke's kid, the question is "Do you have to have the last name Skywalker to be related to one?"
The answer to that is nope. Leia's never had a last name that wasn't Organa. But she's a Skywalker. If Rey actually was Han & Leia's kid, she's a Skywalker. If she's actually Luke's kid, she's still a Skywalker. But nobody actually seems to know if she's anyone's kid.
I feel like a lot of media outlets today basically didn't think before they wrote anything.
BrokenFiction
Member
Hahaha that's a good point I shouldn't be up this late. Didn't even think of Leia. Derp, derp.
I should go to bed now.
I should go to bed now.
Boba Fett isn't fit to lick Cad Bane's stylish rocket shoes.
Speaking of Boba Fett, fuck Boba Fett. It's absurd how the old EU wanked him up from just another cool-looking bounty hunter who managed to track down Han Solo one time to some legendary warrior who defeated countless Jedi and was Han Solo's nemesis. Han Solo couldn't give a fuck who Boba Fett is, Vader's the one who tortured him and put him in carbonite and Jabba's the one who put him on a wall.
He'll get back up with a vengeance. Wait for it. Disney isn't going to let Boba go to waste. They'll make him into the badass the fanbase always wanted him to be (but never got to actually witness)
I thought he seemed pretty competent in the main Star Wars comic.
graffix13
Member
Yep, you're right. I was mis-reading it I guess. He does tell Luke his name is Ben (not Obi-Wan).
Oh, she's a Skywalker alright. The question is, is she Luke's kid or Han/Leia's kid? Leia is a Skywalker too.
What issue? I haven't read the main series yet so I might just check this issue out.
He tells Luke in the comic his name is Ben, not Obi-Wan.
I think you are due for a Star Wars refresher sir.
3 and 4 I think.
graffix13
Member
Yes...yes, I am.
Actually finishing up TCW (just started S5), then watching Rebels and THEN watching the whole saga probably sometime in late November so it's fresh in my mind for TFA.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Yeah, I think he first turns up in #4 and has a more prominent role in #5 and #6.
I've been tempted to to sell my current PS4 and buy it but I'd probably still end up paying over £100 so it's not really worth it. If the design was really nice I'd probably give in, but I think the design they went with is just OK.
I think you're right. I was looking at the issue numbers wrong.
Don't know if it's appropriate, but I really want to share with you a new Star Wars t-shirt design inspired by Star Wars (and the Nintendo Zapper).
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Hope that you like it
It's from a friend of mine and it's on sale for the next 15 hours at RIPT for 11 $: https://www.riptapparel.com/graveyard/elegant-weapon/
Hope that you like it
WadiumArcadium
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This is brilliant. Finn is up against it.
This is brilliant. Finn is up against it.
That Anakin is a thing of nightmares.
Anyway, some franchise news. Sarah Michelle Geller announced who she's playing in Rebels, and it's
the Seventh Sister, one of the Inquisitors. I think this puts to rest the speculation that the female Inquisitor is Barriss Offee.
Also Chuck Wendig did a Q&A on TFN about Aftermath, so here's all of those. There's spoilers in this for Aftermath but since it's pretty much the whole thing, I won't spoil it or else it would be a massive block of black bars. So SPOILERS:
Question #1
Regardless of epilogue matters, Sloane thinks that she has to conduct this Imperial meeting in order to save the future of the Empire. But this is a pretty sorry bunch of leaders we're talking here: a cruel and self-inflated moff, a crony of Palpatine who doesn't appear to be in the inner circle like Amedda or Dangor, and a retired general who's the only sensible one of the bunch. I assume the state of these characters is completely by design: but I am curious why it is these people who Sloane considers important to have on her "Imperial Future Council" instead of more important figures at Court or in the Admiralty. Is Sloane simply operating her independent splinter group separate from the Imperial government on Coruscant, under Amedda?
Chuck - Well, these people aren’t entirely useless – Pandion is indeed a self-inflating bag of gas, sure, but Tashu (while bizarre) was a Palpatine advisor, and Shale was a major strategist for the Empire. Crassus has money, if nothing else, and legacy. But there is and should be a sense of drawing up the dregs, here.
You have to remember, two Death Stars were destroyed, now. The first one, heavily populated. The second one, surely less so but still home to a series of the Empire’s finest. Further, if any remain, Sloane does not appear to have access to them. Right now, the Empire is reeling. It’s splintered. The second book will have some more things to say about this question.
Question #2
Aftermath has a number of references to other works, such as Rebels and A New Dawn. Did you do a lot of research and catching up before you wrote Aftermath? Even with the recent reboot, there's still quite a lot of content encompassing the Star Wars saga, was it overwhelming to work in a universe that has such an established continuity?
Chuck - No, not overwhelming. I was already watching and loving Rebels, and I had seen some of TCW and did catch up on that. But the fact that the referential material was largely isolated to the movies, the shows, and a few books helped. Most of the research wasn’t really research – it was material I had already soaked into my spongy brain.
Question #3
How long after the Battle of Endor does Aftermath take place?
Chuck - I think about three months.
Question #4
Was there is a specific reason you chose to make Admiral Sloane a main character? Was this your own choice or something decided with the Story Group?
Chuck - Sloane was a favorite character. And I wanted to see the evolution of her. This was something discussed with the Story Group, yeah, but the decision to use her was left to me. I wanted to see this complex woman at the helm. Someone who may not have had the shot she presently has if Endor had gone another way.
Question #5
When writing your original characters, did you picture any particular actors playing them?
Chuck - I didn’t! I try not to envision actors too much of the time, lest that voice creep into the voice I use for the actor. Though I’ll confess that Michael Fassbender has kind of become my go-to for Sinjir...
AND DANNY DEVITO AS MISTER BONES okay maybe not that one.
Question #6
Two droids enter the field of combat: Mr. Bones and Chopper. Which one leaves?
Chuck - THUNDERDROID. DROIDERDOME. Or something. Uhh, man, that’s a hard question, right? If this is straight combat, Mr. Bones wins. Because Bones is built for that kind of maniac psychoninja droid action. (And it’s why that my greatest wish in life – I mean, besides my son being healthy and happy and yadda yadda blah blah – is to one day hold a Mr. Bones action figure.)
But if it’s not straight combat, then Chopper holds the advantage. Chopper is wily and capable of subterfuge. He’d get the best of Bones, I suspect.
Question #7
When writing political leaders like Mon Mothma or military leaders like Admiral Ackbar or Admiral Rae Sloane, do you find yourself even looking for inspirations from real world leaders, past or present?
Chuck - Not outwardly, no – like, I don’t make a concerted effort to watch a specific politician and mimic them on the page. But I do follow politics and I’ve little doubt the overall vibe manifests.
Question #8
We learn in one of the first interludes that Mon Mothma plans to cut military spending by 90% and devote those resources to other areas, including bolstering the militaries of member worlds, once the Empire is defeated. How achievable is this goal given the state of war? Is it more significant in that it is a goal in of itself? What role do you think the New Republic's federal Starfleet would play in this scenario?
Chuck - Is it a significant move? Sure. Is it doable? Well, we’ll have to see. If it is or if it isn’t, you can be sure it won’t be an easy, or entirely welcome, goal.
Question #9
Akiva is mentioned to be the first Outer Rim world to join the New Republic. However, well known Outer Rim worlds like Mon Cala are presumably already part of the New Republic. Was this a harmless typo or is Akiva the first "non-Rebel aligned" world in the Outer Rim to join the New Republic?
Chuck - Though I don’t know if it is confirmed that Mon Cala is officially part of the NR as yet, you could argue that the distinction lies in who liberated the planets – in this case, the NR was responsible(-ish) for liberating Akiva.
AN22 note: When I mentioned that Mon Cala makes sense to already be a member due to it's Rebel status, we briefly discussed shipbuilding at the world for the NR Fleet. His answer: Chuck - "Maybe a future interlude.
Question #10
We received multiple questions about your interludes, with many posters saying they were their favorite part of the book. What was your inspiration for them? Will we see follow ups to any of those stories in the next two installments of your trilogy?
Chuck - The first thing floated to me when I got hired was, “Hey, what if this was a World War Z-style of book,” meaning, effectively a series of interludes depicting the state of the galaxy. Books offering a plot less about characters and more about a state of affairs. Which is awesome, but to me it also loses something magical about what makes Star Wars what it is. The characters, the adventure, a rag-tag bunch of players (in this case, new players) whose actions can help to change the entire galaxy. And so I had the idea of telling a more conventional story but then also taking these little vacations into other parts of the galaxy that would reveal for us how some worlds, some groups, and some characters (a few that we know, others we don’t) are dealing with the hot war between the reeling Empire and the returning Republic.
Then, as a bonus, we get to take some of these interludes and, yep, they’ll see some continuation in the next two books. Follow-ups are in play (though I don’t know that every single interlude gets a direct follow-up).
Question #11
As a follow up to question #9, I wonder if you personally view Mon Mothma as making an objective mistake here. A lot of people are assuming this decision leads directly to the state of the galaxy in The Force Awakens, while others see it as a positive sign of why the NR is better than the Empire (and, for that matter, the Legends NR). Do you see it as a "yay, democracy!" moment, or an "oh no" moment?
Chuck - Well, this will sound strange, but as a writer, it’s not really my place to judge the characters. I don’t punish or maintain sympathy. I just try to have empathy. And this is where Mon Mothma’s character goes. As noted earlier, it is a very significant move if she attempts it. With moves like that, it is inevitable that they are both YAY DEMOCRACY and OH NO at the same time. Democracy, as we have learned from our own experiences, is messy – it has a lot of moving parts in the U.S., and you can only imagine how many more moving parts it will have once it spans an entire galaxy.
Question #12
Moving forward with Aftermath 2 and 3, is it safe to assume that we're going to be following the same group of characters for the most part?
Chuck - It is!
Question #13
I heard that you tried to put in an HK-47 interlude and it got shot down. Was there anything else, either in the interludes or in the main story, that was verboten, or did they basically give you a free hand?
Chuck - The one thing that was verboten was using the Holy Trinity of characters in a big way. This was valuable in two ways: one, it allowed us to tell a story about other diverse characters (in a galaxy that big, it’s good to highlight that the storyworld is not that small); two, it allows maximum impact for the revelations of TFA.
Question #14
Are the Acolytes of the Beyond Force-Sensitive themselves? Were they part of the Imperial establishment prior to the collapse, like Inquisitors, or just some random civilians with mystic interests?
Chuck - *evil laugh*
Question #15
I'm interested in Chuck's vision of the Emperor's courtiers. The one we've had, Yupe Tashu, was obviously not the sharpest knife in the drawer, and he was merely a cultist without actual mastery of the Force. But are there still Dark Side Adepts within the Emperor's inner circle?
Chuck - I don’t think it’s necessarily fair to characterize him as an idiot. A kook, maybe. As for Dark Side Adepts — at this point, no, I don’t believe you’ll find that. At least not in the AFTERMATH trilogy.
Question #16
Was the military strength, and the general state, of the Empire post-Endor something that was decided on before you starting writing the novel, or were you given some amount of free reign?
Chuck - I was told more or less where everything was headed, and it was somewhat up to me to get it there. With, obviously, back-and-forth between editors and the Story Group.
Question #17
Can you provide any more details or thoughts on how much of the Imperial armed forces were destroyed, defected to the New Republic, were confiscated by new found Imperial warlords, or fell into the hands of local sector/planetary forces, post-Endor?
Chuck - I can’t speak to exact numbers, but listen, the Empire is hurting. Look at it this way — imagine, if you will, that during WWII, all of Berlin just up and exploded. Attacked by the Allies with a big bomb — boom. Exploded in a way that killed HItler and the top brass and took out some serious infrastructure, at least at the local level. That doesn’t automatically end the war, maybe, but it certainly puts the Third Reich’s future in question. And it would some epic moves to bring it back from the brink. It’s a wonder they did not immediately up and sign a treaty for surrender. But they’re still around and it’s due to some key folks holding it together in various ways.
Question #18
Would you like to write more SW novels after the Aftermath Trilogy? Perhaps a novel or a trilogy set between ROTJ & TFA featuring the OT3 Luke,Han and Leia? Or an OT3 novel that leads into TFA?
Chuck - At present, probably not? I’ve enjoyed plotting the series and writing the first book (I’m on the second book now which is also hella fun). I will note that some of the response from the community has given me pause. For the most part, the response has been great. Fans in general are awesome, and it’s nice to share that love with folks. But while it’s starting to quiet down now, for a while there it was pretty venomous in terms of what was coming my way both publicly and privately. (And I don’t just mean criticism of the book — I mean something bigger, stranger, and altogether nastier.) That said, if they invite me to write more and it’s about a story that tickles me in some way and it makes sense in terms of my schedule… then I’d at least consider it.
Question #19
If you had an X-wing and could paint it with any color or paint scheme you liked, what would you choose?
Chuck - I would submit my X-Wing to the artful mercies of Sabine Wren.
Question #20
How much inspiration did you get from the "old" post-ROTJ EU? What are you favorite Star Wars books/authors from this era?
Chuck - I loved the first Zahn trilogy and many of the Stackpole books. After that I kinda faded out a little bit in terms of the overall EU. It’s a lot of books! No issues to those who want to read that consistently in one universe, but I needed to diversify my reading habits and my story intake.
Question #21
Does the Empire discriminate against same-sex relationships, or have they moved beyond such bigotry already in a galaxy far, far away?
Chuck - Believe it or not, the next book will get into this a little bit.
Question #22
Do you have any plans to reintroduce any characters from the old Expanded Universe in the next two books?
Chuck - Not at present, but never say never.
Question #23
A lot of posters asked about the mysterious fleet admiral. Any insights subtle hints you can provide on the character and your inspiration for him?
Chuck - *evil laugh*
Damn. I knew the evidence wasn't quite there but I was still hoping for
Barriss.
I'd like to know more about that name. I hope we get some info on that in the show.
I did not know that. If he
was the Grand Inquisitor, I wonder where that leaves them with him gone
One thing I'd like to know about the Inquisitor is just what the heck he was doing during the PT, since he's apparently around 40 in human years. Was Utapau not a member state of the Republic? Because that would explain why the Jedi wouldn't have picked him up when he was a kid due to his Force sensitivity.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Utapau wasn't part of the Republic, they always seemed pretty adamant on remaining neutral.
From the databank:
Bobby Roberts
Banned
The latest episode of Full of Sith is some good, good shit, you guys. And I'm not saying it because I'm on it, because I'm not on it at all. I'm saying it because it's pretty fuckin' insightful regarding the old Expanded Universe, the way decisions were made as opposed to the way fans THOUGHT those decisions were made, and how the death of fictional characters can really affect people in real life.
Bob Salvatore and Michael Stackpole star in: Why We Killed Chewie.
Bob Salvatore and Michael Stackpole star in: Why We Killed Chewie.
Really enjoying this. But man it's sad hearing about some of the fan response to Salvatore's book.
WadiumArcadium
Member
Sounds good. I'll give it a listen tomorrow.
Not sure if you've already seen it, but StarWars.com posted a short story about a B-Wing squadron.
Blade Squadron part 1
Blade Squadron part 2
Blade Squadron part 1
Blade Squadron part 2
Lifejumper
Member
How are the new canon audiobooks?
She's fine. It's going to be fine. We're all fine.
Darth Karja
Member
I've listened to them all but the 3 new YA books. Almost done with lost stars. I like them all. I thing Dark Disciple was the best Audiobook. It sounded to me like they got the voice actor who played Anakin to read his part. Maybe obi-wan too.
I didn't like the reader of Lost Stars, but I've got used to him now. But overall I would say they have a pretty good quality.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Yeah. Like, at the OPEN of the panel (that they voluntarily chose to attend) they're STILL booing. And then Salvatore just keeps dropping bombs on 'em.
I love that the story about Lucas handing down a list of who the books could and couldn't kill was completely debunked, too.
"Hey George, who can we kill?"
"I don't care."
"Okay."
bonesmccoy
Banned
I'm working my way through Aftermath during my commute.
The guy doing the reading is pretty good. The story isn't that great, but it's not awful either.
The actual writing is ... not my kind of thing. And I usually have no problems with 'creative' prose.