Gamer_By_Proxy
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I try and look perfect so I can work as an actress . . .
. . . alright now, try it again, but uglier, can you be ugly
. . . alright now, try it again, but uglier, can you be ugly
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Star Wars Outlaws Main Character Already Hit With Criticism Due to Ubisoft Changing Actress Apperance
Krathoon
Gold Member
Yeah. It is getting absurd. Totally goes against acting.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
If I was some ugly ass wannabe actress, I'd be trying to get every gig right now. I should have agents breaking down my door to sign me.
JayK47
Member
Rather than point out all the fuck ugly "women" in modern Western games, which is now standard, it would be much easier to point out the rare few decent looking ones. The women in Midnight Suns look great. The game is developed by Firaxis out of Maryland. Between being a western developer and a Disney property, I am not sure how that happened.
Švejk
Banned
Got banned 3 years ago for contacting admin directly just to suggest something.
Davey Cakes
Member
I don't even think its her model that's the problem. The game's animations look "off" which negatively effects the expressions of the characters.
Keep this one in the cooker, Ubisoft.
Keep this one in the cooker, Ubisoft.
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Croatoan
They/Them A-10 Warthog
It’s because she isn’t wearing makeup and that hillarious 70s mop of hair. Give her just an hint of dark eyeshadow and a normal hair style and she would look fine. Western devs just refuse to put makeup on female characters due to political reasons.
I will say the hair would look better if the rendering or shader was better. That hair looks flat and lifeless, like a cheap wig.
I will say the hair would look better if the rendering or shader was better. That hair looks flat and lifeless, like a cheap wig.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
I get this, but there's also an argument to say that we've seen "scrappy mercenary" done so many times in Star Wars that its draining to see. Actually, we've seen in done so many times in games generally that it's draining.
DarkArterialGore
Member
crackajack
Member
Had to check the games I played since Jan 2022. Not many attractive female leads in there. But still some:
Detroid Become Human had Kara, certainly cute. And pretty much matches Valorie Curry.
Telling Lies was an interactive movie, but they cast some good looking diverse females: Alexandra Shipp, Kerry Bishe, Angela Sarafyan
Life is Strange's Alex Chen is also cute, imho.
AC Valhalla's female Eivor is also a good looking viking, so a bit rougher looking in not so fine garments.
Mirror's Edge Faith Connors is very beautiful.
I also played Remember Me which had its character Nilin Cartier-Wells based on no real female (afaik), also beautiful, for PS3 standards.
None of them were portrayed sexualised (other than Telling Lies due to its plot) but still they had nice faces and fit figures. So it's not really 10 years of nothing.
But Stellar Blade is among very few games where the female lead is not only allowed to be beautiful but also apparantly sexualised at max level. Beside the japanese pervy cringefest that was Gravity Rush2.
It totally is possible for any decent team to create whatever ficitional character they want or use a real likeness. For some odd reason some end up with a rather cheap looking unimportant Fifa player scan or failed Unreal-Metahuman? It's not the most important thing ever, but it feels like they are somewhat sabotaging their own game and thus I have doubt the responsible people have really the actual potential audience in their aims.
The Cockatrice
Gold Member
Crayon
Member
Cherry picked mint that they are samples chosen because they show what you were looking for. I watched the trailer and she might have got a couple minutes on screen, which is a lot of frames. I also saw the one with the original model doing the mocap. And she was in there plenty, too. If I could go grab some screenshots right now, I could pick out ones that make the the in game model look way cuter than the real model.
If you want to representative sample, take one frame from every 10 seconds she's on screen and review those.
Look what they did to beyoncé!
That's from the game. That's what she looks like in the game.
GymWolf
Gold Member
People not expecting the full DEI starter pack in a ubisoft game after all the accusation of sexual harassement they got, must have lived in a cave.
They have a double reason for doing this shit, the woke money and saving the face\distracting from their internal problems.
Of course the woke are still gonna blast them because nothing is ever enough, and the normies are gonna think twice about buying your games, jokes on them.
They have a double reason for doing this shit, the woke money and saving the face\distracting from their internal problems.
Of course the woke are still gonna blast them because nothing is ever enough, and the normies are gonna think twice about buying your games, jokes on them.
Northeastmonk
Gold Member
She is uglier than Cal. That must be the agenda here. Make the females uglier than the males.
Sethbacca
Member
Shhhhhh, you're interrupting the circle jerk.Cherry picked mint that they are samples chosen because they show what you were looking for. I watched the trailer and she might have got a couple minutes on screen, which is a lot of frames. I also saw the one with the original model doing the mocap. And she was in there plenty, too. If I could go grab some screenshots right now, I could pick out ones that make the the in game model look way cuter than the real model.
If you want to representative sample, take one frame from every 10 seconds she's on screen and review those.
Look what they did to beyoncé!
That's from the game. That's what she looks like in the game.
AREYOUOKAY?
Member
There's no point in casting actors if you don't use their looks. Honestly this is a waste of time and budget.
Although the game has enough problems, since this is a Ubisoft game, hardly anyone believes their videos, and even more so, I hope that the percentage of people who still pre-order Ubisoft games has decreased significantly. Since their games can only be trusted after they show it live, and preferably on stream.
And, to put it mildly, they did not behave very well by announcing this: "The physical version of Star Wars Outlaws requires an online connection to install." And damn it in a game that has a version for 130$, as I understand it, this small indie studio doesn’t have the money for two Blu-ray discs.
Although the game has enough problems, since this is a Ubisoft game, hardly anyone believes their videos, and even more so, I hope that the percentage of people who still pre-order Ubisoft games has decreased significantly. Since their games can only be trusted after they show it live, and preferably on stream.
And, to put it mildly, they did not behave very well by announcing this: "The physical version of Star Wars Outlaws requires an online connection to install." And damn it in a game that has a version for 130$, as I understand it, this small indie studio doesn’t have the money for two Blu-ray discs.
rm082e
Member
I'm not deep in on the hate train here. I have no interest in this game at all, but when I watch this trailer, I'm not seeing a big mismatch between the 3 shots posted in the OP. The accusation that they made her look worse than their model seems spot on to me.Cherry picked mint that they are samples chosen because they show what you were looking for. I watched the trailer and she might have got a couple minutes on screen, which is a lot of frames. I also saw the one with the original model doing the mocap. And she was in there plenty, too. If I could go grab some screenshots right now, I could pick out ones that make the the in game model look way cuter than the real model.
If you want to representative sample, take one frame from every 10 seconds she's on screen and review those.
Look what they did to beyoncé!
That's from the game. That's what she looks like in the game.
- They gave her a cleft chin where the model doesn't have one.
- Looking at the third shot in the OP, it looks like they rounded out the eyes.
- They changed her eyebrows from the traditional curve to more of a straight dash, and changed the color of the brows to blend in with the skin tone.
- They reduced the overall size of the mouth.
semiconscious
Member
well, yeah, on luke, maybe...I like the hair
EverydayBeast
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Aenima
Member
She looks ok in the game, but dosent look anything close to the feminine face of the real model. She looks like a tomboy, not ugly like the cherry picked screens, but not as feminine looking as the real person. But when its male characters they always managed to to a pretty close copy.
So yeah, western devs and artists keep unglifying they female characters on purpose.
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Aenima
Member
Is that the card game ppl recomend that is on PS+? Might have to check it out.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Heimdall_Xtreme
Hermen Hulst Fanclub's #1 Member
Weeks ago I met the actor who played C3PO, Anthony Daniels, The Mr. is calm
I like the pet... is the best thing of the game.
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Crayon
Member
Okay I don't have a lot of time for this but im feeling invested lol. Also don't care about the game but this whole thing seems tilting at windmills so I'll make some effort.
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rm082e
Member
I think a small number of people take the outrage too far, but that doesn't mean it isn't a trend.Okay I don't have a lot of time for this but im feeling invested lol. Also don't care about the game but this whole thing seems tilting at windmills so I'll make some effort.
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Ultimately it doesn't matter if the game is good. I Just played through TLOU2 on PS5 again recently. I wasn't paying attention to commentary when that game came out. I was surprised to hear later on so many people had an issue with Abby's appearance. Her being a weightlifter and more masculine character made perfect sense to me in the context of the story.
But then I see something like the MJ from Spiderman 1 to Spiderman 2 and there's just no justification for the change to that character. It didn't even look like the same person. It would be like a film version swapping out Emma Stone for Tilda Swinton.
Ammogeddon
Member
The character model just looks weird. I’m not sure any human even looks like that. Let’s just say they’re an alien, problem solved.
Crayon
Member
I consider the MJ in spider man to be egregious uglification. :/ It DOES happen.
Setsuna Mudou
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yamaci17
Member
this looked just fine. damn fine at that
hair looked magnificent too. ruin the face but why ruin the hair as well?? it looks like a mop attached to her head now. I wonder if this was a bullshot cg-like render and reality is their engine cant actually handle hair or something. hair always looked off in ac games anyways
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PatientGamer
Member
Why have they given her that dent in her chin for? She didn't even look like that in the demo prior.
Was Sweet Baby Inc. involved in this?
Generation 8 and 9 finally gives us graphics to make realistic, attractive game models.. and this is what they create with it? They don't deserve it. I didn't suffer through 8-bit and 16-bit block boobs for this lol, wtf.
Was Sweet Baby Inc. involved in this?
Generation 8 and 9 finally gives us graphics to make realistic, attractive game models.. and this is what they create with it? They don't deserve it. I didn't suffer through 8-bit and 16-bit block boobs for this lol, wtf.
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marquimvfs
Member
Natalie Cox and Sam Witwer where more faithfully represented in the fucking PS3's The Force Unleashed. The only game in the present time that I saw a faithfull representation of the actors is Death Stranding.
Krathoon
Gold Member
She actually
Yeah. She looks like Morgan Webb in that one. A normal ass woman.
this looked just fine. damn fine at that
hair looked magnificent too. ruin the face but why ruin the hair as well?? it looks like a mop attached to her head now. I wonder if this was a bullshot cg-like render and reality is their engine cant actually handle hair or something. hair always looked off in ac games anyways
Guerilla Munch
Member
this looked just fine. damn fine at that
hair looked magnificent too. ruin the face but why ruin the hair as well?? it looks like a mop attached to her head now. I wonder if this was a bullshot cg-like render and reality is their engine cant actually handle hair or something. hair always looked off in ac games anyways
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Thats Mark Hamill AFTER he got into a terrible car wreck and had to have his face reconstructed.
Whats her excuse?
I'm playing The Quarry and it has a ton of semi-famous actors that are ALL OVER THE PLACE with how well whatever tech they are using recreates their face. The men, in particualr, seem to be really close, but the girls......YIKES. I think it's the software folks, it's sexist....
The Quarry Cast: Every Character and Voice Actor
The Quarry boasts a truly stacked cast of famous faces and voices. Here's why you probably recognize most of the game's main characters.
www.denofgeek.com
I think the tech for their jaws and teeth just can't handle more delicate feminine features as well, anytime a woman character talks in TQ it's a horrifying marionet shit show of teeth sliding and cheeks stretching. Hopefully this transitory period is over soon....
DanielG165
Member
EDITED: Honestly? Looking at the photos more, her character model looks fine to me, it’s just the hair that’s kinda funky. She’s no grunge MJ from Spider-Man 2 or anything. The actress portraying her is beautiful; the character herself is cute. Or I guess, as cute as a bunch of pixels can be. As a whole, she looks good, cherry picked stills aside.
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