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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer
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Who do we think says "who are you"? Leia? "Just let it in" kind of sounds like a young Leia, but I know Carrie's voice has changed a ton since then.
Does he? I thought that was just a menacing walk. That would actually be kind of interesting if he does.
Mix Master
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With the mask, Ren's probably my favorite SW villian visually.
Looks really menacing and powerful
He looks like a duck.
PdotMichael
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You are telling me this is no longer canon?
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a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Here's some of the responses. I admit I was being a bit of a dick with my original post dismissing anime and video games, but still. It's fucking Star Wars c'mon.
On Star Wars being a pop culture juggernaut:
The second quote is about whether people would recognize Vader over Sephiroth
He kept referring to it as "a space ship movie" which was really grinding my gears.
Claiming the average person has never heard of Star Wars
Veritigo_X
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professor_t
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I could see that happening. It would be cheesy if the execution was all wrong, but if they did it right, it might be awesome to have Luke turn a variation of this line back on Kylo Ren:
"The Force is with you young Skywalker, but you are not a Jedi yet."
Done right, in the aftermath of the powerful, sadistic antagonist whupping on our hero (Finn), I think it could bring the house down.
blackdevil
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i dont think he does
he walks normal in the behind the scenes footage when he exits that spaceship
https://youtu.be/CTNJ51ghzdY?t=1m26s
With the mask, Ren's probably my favorite SW villian visually.
Looks really menacing and powerful
Kinda looks like Darth Revan from KotoR.
efyu_lemonardo
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Heh, yeah I didn't mean the prequels are wrong in some morally offensive way. Personally I find the quality of film making in them to be poor, but that wasn't the point I was trying to make.
People are obviously free to enjoy whatever they like, but I think it was certainly possible to create different prequels that would have had a far less divisive reception. And in my opinion what we've seen so far of TFA appears to be doing a better job in that regard.
ProtomanNeo
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It'd be cool if force ghost Anakin shows up at some point in the new trilogy to tell Kylo Ren he's wrong. Of course this would send him over deep end, where he stops trying be like Vader and instead be more than Vader.
FalsettoVibe
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The trailer looks great!
As much as I think Hayden was far and away one of the worst things about the prequels and want him nowhere near these new movies...I am morbidly curious about the possibility of Rian Johnson redeeming his Anakin performance with a turn like that.
The Jedi's were already being forgotten by Episode 4; and all of Luke's Jedi battles took place in private locations in the following movies.
Inferno313
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Outside of Big Hero Six, which is a Disney Animation Studios film based on a Marvel property, not a Marvel film. There has been zero Marvel films with a Disney title card.
cloud_sleep
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Duck Vader
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But seriously, he looks like a duck. Unintentionally hilarious design.
yup only time he uses his lightsabre outside of a duel is at the sarlacc pit isn't it? Where pretty much everyone gets killed
exactly how i feel about it
maybe he's going to stab the black stormtrooper/jedi dude in the eye with his duckbill
he looks so afraid in the trailer because he knows he's about to have his eyes pecked out
bananafactory
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I still choke up every time I watch this trailer
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RobbieNick
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This along with the Emperor's propaganda after the fall of the republic helped put the Jedi into legend and myth rather than fact.
In a galaxy far, far away living memories just vanish in about 50 years. There is hyperspace drives but no one apparently records anything related to all the jedis swinging lightsabers around.
It is one of those things we just have to accept because it makes for a better story.
cebri.one
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But nobody told the whole galaxy how the empire was destroyed? I like it more this way, i didn't want a new republic or something like that with a new jedi academy.
The Jedi had already been eradicated at that point.
Luke was it.
Luke did not going around broadcasting "Hey BABY WE ARE BACK!!!!"
He was it.
WadiumArcadium
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The Empire wasn't actually destroyed after Jedi - both Star Wars Aftermath and the Shattered Empire comic go into this a bit. Fractured and depleted but alive. Just about.
cebri.one
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That whole "the Jedi and Sith are mythical" 30 years after ROTJ is not the worst timeline offender if you count the ones done by the prequel trilogy.
I think the big fuckup in time continuity actually already happened with the prequels and that they were placed only 18 years before ANH, making Ben Kenobi 56 years old.
The story demands the prequel story to happen somewhat close to ANH because of Luke and Leia's birth and Anakin's fall but it was just too close for my liking.
Anakin could have been way older by the time he had kids and him "fighting in the Clone Wars" with Ben Kenobi could have happened way before. When Luke spoke of the clone wars it always felt like Obi Wan was a 100 year old wizard and had seen some mythical shit. In reality the Clone Wars ended 18 years before.
That is like a kid today asking their uncle if they fought in Afghanistan.
If only the Clone Wars would have been what was originally envisioned..
I think the big fuckup in time continuity actually already happened with the prequels and that they were placed only 18 years before ANH, making Ben Kenobi 56 years old.
The story demands the prequel story to happen somewhat close to ANH because of Luke and Leia's birth and Anakin's fall but it was just too close for my liking.
Anakin could have been way older by the time he had kids and him "fighting in the Clone Wars" with Ben Kenobi could have happened way before. When Luke spoke of the clone wars it always felt like Obi Wan was a 100 year old wizard and had seen some mythical shit. In reality the Clone Wars ended 18 years before.
That is like a kid today asking their uncle if they fought in Afghanistan.
If only the Clone Wars would have been what was originally envisioned..
A clonemaster dude making evil clones of people to take over the galaxy?
Sounds like fun...sure, completely original and unexpected
If no Jedi ever came to your planet, and you never left your planet, why would you readily accept it as fact?
There was a real interesting reddit/GAF thread about veterans who served in Afghanistan and said they met people there who had no idea that Americans were even in their country much less knew why they were there, never heard of 9/11, assumed that the Americans were actually Soviets still continuing the invasion from the 80s, etc. Isolation + propaganda can make you think anything.
Luke only became a Jedi because he had Obi-Wan and Yoda to recognize his potential and train him. They're dead now, and if Luke never took an apprentice of his own, then any new Force sensitive people aren't going to know they're potential Jedi at all.
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FYI, I made a thread about the AMC exclusive posters by Dan Mumford:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=182347520#post182347520
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=182347520#post182347520
Dreams-Visions
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In context, news doesn't seem to travel all that fast in the SW universe and most of what happens in the OT happens on remote planets far removed from the conflicts of the past. It's reasonable to assume these people would have never heard of the conflict itself, much less people with super powers.
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But Age of Ultron.
Nah, the original vision was probably more like the movie he had done before THX 1138 where clones are rebelling against their masters.
Imagine Anakin taking the side of the clones (as he had been a slave before), helping them rebel against the system and going against the mainstream of the Republic trying to stop the uprising.
That would've made a shitton of sense and given Anakin a true motive.
efyu_lemonardo
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That red robot in the shot where they are following Han into an old temple/building looked pretty great. Really looking forward to seeing some of the cg aliens designed for this film.
Watto, Sebulba and a few others from the PT were very memorable, but I think if they can go slightly more realistic and less cartoony (for ex. no huge over-expressive eyes) we can have ourselves some real iconic aliens.
Watto, Sebulba and a few others from the PT were very memorable, but I think if they can go slightly more realistic and less cartoony (for ex. no huge over-expressive eyes) we can have ourselves some real iconic aliens.
Ray Wonder
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Star Wars all over this forum's face
I was just getting confused as to which thread I was commenting in. Kept clicking each one looking for my posts. I don't mind it though.
LordOfChaos
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I like the moment where Finn is all confidence with his lightsaber, then Kylo turns his on and there's a pants crapping moment
These are still two people that are not as well trained as most people in saber fights we've seen, so I wonder if it will be a noob slog fest. That could be even more exciting though if it's more visceral and less precise.And hopefully no waltzing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
These are still two people that are not as well trained as most people in saber fights we've seen, so I wonder if it will be a noob slog fest. That could be even more exciting though if it's more visceral and less precise.And hopefully no waltzing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
Inferno313
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I like the moment where Finn is all confidence with his lightsaber, then Kylo turns his on and there's a pants crapping moment
These are still two people that are not as well trained as most people in saber fights we've seen, so I wonder if it will be a noob slog fest. That could be even more exciting though if it's more visceral and less precise.And hopefully no waltzing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
Kylo needs a haircut.
thecouncil
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Ha. You're right about that reaction.
BFIB
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Its why the perfect foil would have been dropping Episode 1 right near the end of the Clone Wars. Make it clear that they have been going on for a long, long time with an already aged Chancellor Palpatine manipulating both sides to continue the conflict. He's wiping out Jedi without even needing to reveal himself.
You could have the Mandalorians fighting over the outer rim territories against the Republic using clones. Since the Jedi are being wiped out, they discover Anakin, already in his early 20's as a resistance fighter pilot. He is strong in the Force, so the council agrees to train him, despite reservation of his age, and his attitude.
I don't know. Just so many ways it could have gone down, but I agree. I envisioned the Clone Wars being this long, drawn out war with the Republic giving into granting ultimate power to Palpatine as Emperor, because they just wanted the fighting to end.
PdotMichael
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I like the moment where Finn is all confidence with his lightsaber, then Kylo turns his on and there's a pants crapping moment
These are still two people that are not as well trained as most people in saber fights we've seen, so I wonder if it will be a noob slog fest. That could be even more exciting though if it's more visceral and less precise.And hopefully no waltzing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
Light saber fighting is sure a lost art form.
Can someone who has read spoilers answer this for me:
Is Ren, Rey's twin brother and are they Leia's and Han's children?
Is Ren secretly being manipulated by an Evil master Sith (Serkis) that will emerge from the shadows in EpVIII, allowing Ren some kind of redemption?
If so is it addressed in the script how Han and Leia could have failed so miserably as parents? It feels a bit like Han would smack his son to Alderaan and back if he would develop a giant mancrush on his evil Sith granddad?
Is Ren secretly being manipulated by an Evil master Sith (Serkis) that will emerge from the shadows in EpVIII, allowing Ren some kind of redemption?
If so is it addressed in the script how Han and Leia could have failed so miserably as parents? It feels a bit like Han would smack his son to Alderaan and back if he would develop a giant mancrush on his evil Sith granddad?
Ray Wonder
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I like the moment where Finn is all confidence with his lightsaber, then Kylo turns his on and there's a pants crapping moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw
Love it
Astral Dog
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I hope this one is much better tan the last trilogy, that one was not good at all...
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