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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]

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border

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Where is the high-level content video that TotalBiscuit was supposed to post?

I have no idea what it is people get out of seeing PVP videos......especially when they just cut between different characters every other minute and you don't really know much about the classes.
 

Vlodril

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The gunslinger looks really good in that warzone. Damn i am changing my mind on which class to play and in what order constantly.
 
Dakota47 said:
Something to talk about: new TotalBiscuit video.


EDIT The actual footage starts at 6:40. Unless you want to see a bunch of German geeks skip to that point in the video.

I'm really happy for Buiscuit. He is just another guy with an opinion, but he is a good guy.

He entertained me a lot during the Cataclysm beta. When I actually got into that beta, I would still prioritize watching his videos. I think it was relief. As interesting and amazing Cata was, no matter how much you paint the wall, it's still the same wall, and have him play it and explore it, made me appreciate it through him.

At the end of the day, it was the sign that WoW was over for me. He is not a particularly funny guy, and he doesn't know that much about MMOs, but he is a cool dude still. Some british people seem to be annoyed by his persona. hmm.
 

Dakota47

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TotalBiscuit absolutely is a good guy. I really appreciate his opinion on games. I think it is a good thing he diversified into other stuff than just WoW. I especially found his reporting on DNF refreshing. He has done a great job of reporting on Gamescom too. Some of his off-screen footage is excellent.
 
border said:
So then explain how it is that Strat, Scholo, UBRS do not have "raid mechanics". And how does Eternity Vault have raid mechanics?

Because in the context of endgame content at launch (and that was the context of this discussion) UBRS, Strat and Scholo would not be on the same content level as Molten Core, Onyxia and Eternity Vault. They would be on the same content level as level 50 flashpoints. And in the case of UBRS perhaps on the same level of hard mode flashpoints, which were confirmed at gamescom, though that would be pretty hard to determine.

Out of the context of the discussion, Eternity Vault still has raid mechanics, because it is endgame content. It has raid level boss encounters, gating, gearchecks (at least on higher difficulties), and a mix of trashmobs with loottables and unique encounters (apparently including some kind of puzzle). And that is only stuff revealed at gamescom that Strat, Scholo and UBRS are missing.

If you want to continue to argue about that let's stick to PMs in order to stop this discussion from derailing this thread any further.

Vlodril said:
They probably have more dungeons/raids whatever that they haven't shared with the beta testers anyway.

I don't really expect them to have unrevealed operations available at launch, but somewhere in this very thread, someone from Bioware explained not all of the launch flashpoints are in the beta.

Billychu said:
What is it with every character always being at 14? Does something happen at 15?

One of the characters I played last week was actually level 15, because he leveled up from xp gained through battlegrounds over the cause of gamescom.

Would have preferred to see some level 50 combat, though.
 
Billychu said:
Bioware, why did you forget the Scoundrel exists? Please show me some of the Scrapper tree.

Maybe they have some kind of redesign planned for the Scoundrel in the near future. Strangely enough there was no Scoundrel to chose from at the PvP event at gamescom.
 

Giolon

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Dakota47 said:
Something to talk about: new TotalBiscuit video.


EDIT The actual footage starts at 6:40. Unless you want to see a bunch of German geeks skip to that point in the video.

Protip: you can add &t=XmYs to your youtube links to start at a specific time so to start at 6:40 it would be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re0eutBfIXo&t=6m40s

Win.

Love seeing these gameplay videos being put out to the public. I don't actually PvP, but these Warzones do look pretty cool.
 
I need to keep away from this thread, every time I go to make a post I have to remind myself not to talk about the beta.

I'll just say it's a beta, and stuff is really cool.
 

Cystm

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I could care less if this game has less raid's than WoW did at launch.

The back and forth of this thread with it's comparison with GW2 and WoW has done nothing for me but dilute my interest in participating in this thread (Of awkwardly placed ego.) more than it is has shaped my opinion of the game which it is supposed to be about.

I am more interested in the content of the story, which is having mixed reviews, same as anything else with any game ever. More specifically I want more insight into character development at the end game than those shackled by the NDA and developers shackled by marketing are coming forth with.
 

Cystm

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Dakota47 said:
Something to talk about: new TotalBiscuit video.


EDIT The actual footage starts at 6:40. Unless you want to see a bunch of German geeks skip to that point in the video.

That cosplay at the start... So fucking awkward.

Watching people play TOR PvP at this level of familiarity is like watching people play WoW arenas at 1k arena rating. No one knows WTF they are doing. :lol
 

Belfast

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border said:
If I just want to read the dialogue in its entirety, is that possible? Or will spacebar simply push you to the end of a conversation?

I don't mind a story, but the cinematic pretenses just grow dull quickly. Games are for playin', not listenin'. Let me read so I can get to the gameplay faster.

It skips to the next line, but make sure to go into options and manually turn subtitles on, otherwise it only displays text for the last line spoken whenever you have to choose a dialog option.

Subtitles will force the game to show all spoken lines, thus allowing you to progress through a conversation at your own speed (and you will once the novelty wears off).
 
Cystm said:
The back and forth of this thread with it's comparison with GW2 and WoW has done nothing for me but dilute my interest in participating in this thread (Of awkwardly placed ego.) more than it is has shaped my opinion of the game which it is supposed to be about.
Cystm said:
Watching people play TOR PvP at this level of familiarity is like watching people play WoW arenas at 1k arena rating. No one knows WTF they are doing. :lol
I don't get it...
 

Cystm

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Darknessbear said:
I don't get it...

There's a difference in observing people's inability to excel in a game because of a simple lack of familiarity with the game and complaining that one has what the other does not and because of that imply that the game is doomed to fail.


Get it?
 

Giolon

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CcrooK said:
Interview on Operations and Warzones:

http://darthhater.com/2011/08/21/gamescom2011-gabe-amatangelo-interview/


Really interesting read.
I can't help but wonder how "Easy Mode" raids are going to be handled within the game community. Heroic Raiders already look down their noses at "Easy Mode" Normal Raiders in WoW. If there's an even more easy level, I think the community is going to get even more ugly and hostile than it already is between "hardcore" and "casual."
 

LowParry

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Giolon said:
I can't help but wonder how "Easy Mode" raids are going to be handled within the game community. Heroic Raiders already look down their noses at "Easy Mode" Normal Raiders in WoW. If there's an even more easy level, I think the community is going to get even more ugly and hostile than it already is between "hardcore" and "casual."

Eh, I don't see it becoming a big deal. I haven't seen that kind of talk currently in WoW. But then again, the server I'm on is care bears galore. They rather QQ it up on trade than play with Anal [insert item].
 

Hawk269

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Dakota47 said:
I wish Bioware would just give out info on what they are going to do after release. I am quite sure that at the moment the game doesn't contain enough content to keep playing for the next two or three years, but then again this is an MMO so I am quite sure they will add stuff. But information about what exactly and what the time frame will be for releasing that content would be very welcome. I also think it is about time BW comes clean about costs.

I agree. With the recent show in Europe and all the video's they released, some official some from shaky-cam, it's about time they lift or ease up on the NDA so that some users can get a better ideal about the game.

Pricing should be something easily released by now and I agree with you that some information on what the strategy is for post launch support as far as content is concerned. I know that they dont to tip their hat too far in advance, but some generalities would be nice to know.
 

Hawk269

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BTW...I thought when a thread gets to 10000+ replies that a new thread is to be started? Perhaps in the new thread we can actually talk about SWTOR instead of WoW????
 

Morn

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Hawk269 said:
I agree. With the recent show in Europe and all the video's they released, some official some from shaky-cam, it's about time they lift or ease up on the NDA so that some users can get a better ideal about the game.

Pricing should be something easily released by now and I agree with you that some information on what the strategy is for post launch support as far as content is concerned. I know that they dont to tip their hat too far in advance, but some generalities would be nice to know.

The game is up for pre-order already and it won't be more than $15 a month.
 

CzarTim

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Hawk269 said:
BTW...I thought when a thread gets to 10000+ replies that a new thread is to be started? Perhaps in the new thread we can actually talk about SWTOR instead of WoW????
100,000, I thought?
 

Hawk269

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Morn said:
The game is up for pre-order already and it won't be more than $15 a month.

Sorry...I should of stated the pricing for the monthly fee. At this point monthly fee's should be disclosed as well as any incentives if you buy 3, 6, 9, 12months in one shot.
 

Gvaz

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Billychu said:
It's whatever 200 pages is with 100 posts per page. Yes, I'm too stupid to multiply those two numbers.
What addon are you using to show "who posted"? It reminds me of SALR
 

LowParry

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BattleMonkey said:
If they show something new hopefully, sounds like right now just more of what we saw at the recent con

No, we should be getting a good look at the pvp world. They've been hyping PAX up for a good while. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of some news about Sept beta. Wishful thinking but the timing would be good for it.
 

Ferny

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CcrooK said:
No, we should be getting a good look at the pvp world. They've been hyping PAX up for a good while. I wouldn't be surprised if we hear of some news about Sept beta. Wishful thinking but the timing would be good for it.

Im almost sure they will lay out the details for the beta. September is creeping up fast so might as well lay it all out at the next biggest event they have to show the game.
 

Emitan

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