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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]

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Emitan

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Also, I freaking love the Sith Assassin. Going to switch from Smuggler to Consular. Which means all of our officers are Consulars except for Tim.
 
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MaddenNFL64

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Georg Zoeller did a short interview with RepublicTrooper (a fansite). All of these questions are Trooper centric, so if you're looking to be one, some good info for ya. Gonna quote some of the q&a.

Republic Trooper: What were some of the challenges of developing ranged tanking for the Vanguard Advanced Class?

Georg Zoeller: Since this is a Star Wars game, and most enemies in Star Wars utilize ranged weapons such as blaster rifles, cannons or grenade launchers, the Vanguard’s ability to draw attention from range also emerged as a distinct advantage over melee bound classes like the Jedi Guardian, who have to close from range to create initial threat.

However, a lot of the challenges to tanking are based in the tanks role as the ‘anchor’ of a fight. They are responsible for moving enemies into a position advantageous for their group and keeping them anchored. Tanking from range doesn’t lend itself well to this responsibility, so we saw quite a few problems from the Vanguard’s range: For example, it is much harder for group members to read the state of combat and who the tank is engaged with when the fight is taking place over large distances.

Ultimately, we’ve solved this problem by moving the ‘sweet zone’ for tanking on the Vanguard into mid-range, allowing for strategic use of ranged attacks while keeping him in the thick of the action.

Another problem we had to deal with was selling the ability to tank at close range for a gun wielding class. We had to use a lot of powerful visual effects such as technical shields to properly sell the Vanguard’s ability to go ‘hand to hand’ with a vibrosword wielding enemy.
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RT: Of the three damage dealing trees (Assault Specialist, Gunnery and Tactics) are all three viable in both Flashpoints and Operations, or are some of the trees more specialized?

GZ: The damage potential of all DPS trees is designed to be competitive with one another as we want the player to choose their specialization based on their play style preferences:

Assault Specialist – Using long range gameplay and mobility, this tree delivers high sustained and predictable damage to individual targets.

Gunnery – High burst damage created by a variety of build-up attacks. More sturdy and more utility than the Assault Specialist, but less mobile due to reliance on channeled abilities.

Tactics – Often compared to a ‘wrecking ball’ by our testers, this tree makes the Vanguard difficult to control, provides him with good mobility and anti-kiting tools and great area of effect damage.

Players will obviously find some specializations more to their liking when doing operations, but we definitely try to design the content around all available specializations.
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RT: How does the Vanguard tank work in relation to the other Republic tanking classes, the Jedi Guardian and the Jedi Shadow?

GZ: Unlike the Guardian and the Shadow, the Vanguard is capable of building threat even from range, giving them the limited but marked ability of tanking at a distance. Statistically, their tanking ability is based more upon absorption and shielding and less about avoidance, making them the slightly more predictable tanks (Medics love that). Finally, they are visually very different when in action, as most of their abilities are themed around technical attacks (grenades, explosions, blasters, etc.).
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RT: What makes the Commando Combat Medic stand apart from his healing counterparts?

GZ: Commandos are the only medic class capable of increasing their target’s mitigation and receptivity to heals. They are also the only Advanced Class that features a ‘smart heal’, an auto-response heal that triggers on the target when they take damage. They also feature a unique mechanic with the aforementioned Combat Support Cell: Utilizing their main weapon to support their allies with a steady, reliable stream of healing, while building up Supercharge cell – which provides burst on demand capabilities when needed for either healing or even emergency damage.
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Emitan

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Thinking about canceling my SWTOR pre-order and getting Skyrim at launch because I'd still be able to get SWTOR very close to launch if I work near release date. It's a hard decision.
 
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Emitan

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Moaradin said:
You'll miss out on Early Access!
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I know! I want to be there at launch/early access. But but but DAT SKYRIM

EDIT: I mean, I'm in the beta, so my burning desire to finally play SWTOR has been sated. I'm still very excited, but Skyrim will be something new, while TOR at launch will be a more polished version of a game I've already put dozens of hours into. I'd still be getting it with 2-3 weeks of launch.
 
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Gvaz

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Prolly gonna cancel my CE soon. I can't really justify the $150 pricetag.

Unless someone wants to buy the statue off me for $80?
 
MaddenNFL64

MaddenNFL64

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Gvaz said:
Prolly gonna cancel my CE soon. I can't really justify the $150 pricetag.

Unless someone wants to buy the statue off me for $80?
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Early on, you could probably make some of it back just selling the statue, I think thats very possible.
 
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Zinga

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Gvaz said:
Prolly gonna cancel my CE soon. I can't really justify the $150 pricetag.

Unless someone wants to buy the statue off me for $80?
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If you don't want your CE just put it away somewhere for a few years and you will make it back multiple times once it becomes rare.
 
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Moaradin

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I like how the racials are just cosmetic things and don't mess with balance. Obviously they are still a work in progress, but I hope they keep them cosmetics.
 
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razgriz417

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Gvaz said:
Prolly gonna cancel my CE soon. I can't really justify the $150 pricetag.

Unless someone wants to buy the statue off me for $80?
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Yea I have it preordered too but $150 sounds like too much for it. Though it seems like these will be limited and should sell nicely after launch
 
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MaddenNFL64

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Some images from Darth Haters' IA progression video dissection.

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border

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I would not expect to get a good sale price on a Collector's Edition if you've already opened it and burned the code. Don't waste time sitting on it for years -- just sell the statue for $20-30 and get some money back.

Very few of these Collector's Editions actually gain in value, and any value that they have is only tied to the exclusive in-game items that come with them. Just the statue and art book is not going to net you $150++ on eBay.

I sold a sealed copy of WoW: The Burning Crusade for about $100 on eBay over the summer, which was only like $20 or $30 more than I paid for it.
 
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FoeHammer

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I have this pre-ordered even though I haven't been able to get in to any MMO that I've played yet.

The first two KOTOR's are among my favorite games of all time; I haven't been following this thread but I was curious if those in the beta can speak to whether or not the PvE campaign feels like those games?

I do remember Bioware PR mouthpieces saying at one point that TOR would be like KOTOR 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc. I know that was bullshit but it would be nice if that were even remotely true.
 
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Gvaz

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Oh I'd just sell the statue because I just want the game and the in game stuff but nothing else. The OST is always available on youtube or wahtever and idgaf about some stupid lorebook. I like the statue but $150? ehhh
 
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Woorloog

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Giolon said:
Wow, the IA video didn't hold up compared to the Smuggler video. Everything in the IA one looked boring, where the Smuggler seemed incredibly badass from shooting the Sith twirler Indiana Jones style to fending off an assault as a Gunslinger while wearing the awesome cowboy hat and bandana.
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Smuggler's meh. Actually, all Republic classes are meh IMO. Tython looks awesome starter place but the Sith Empire simply looks and feels more interesting.

And now to recruiting.

EuroGAF guild NeoGAF Empire (PVP, Sith Empire) still looking for members http://www.swtor.com/guilds/244595/neogaf-empire
Need one 1 more pre-order.
Please inform me of your SWTOR username here or PM your GAF username to Empyrus over at swtor.com if you want to apply. Friends and relatives are welcome as well, just tell me their usernames so that i don't reject them.
You want to be an officer? Ask and i'll make you one though officers will get responsibilities, once we determine what are the guilds goals etc, if any.
 
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Takeda Kenshi

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Gvaz said:
Oh I'd just sell the statue because I just want the game and the in game stuff but nothing else. The OST is always available on youtube or wahtever and idgaf about some stupid lorebook. I like the statue but $150? ehhh
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Dude, but the MOUSE DROID.

The

MOUSE

DROID.
 
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Thoraxes

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Yeah I'd rather we stay PvE. It's a much more enjoyable experience all around, and I say this as a 12-year MMO veteran who's been on mostly PvP servers for forever (my opinion).

As for early access this is great. I was hoping for at least a full week like with XIV, but 5 days is good enough too. I will literally finish my finals that week, come home, and at midnight, hopefully start playing ToR. Best timing ever.
 
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DodgerSan

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It now seems that Origin will in fact be required for this game, depite Stephen Reid's denial.




From the FAQ:


Will I require an Origin account in addition to a SWTOR account?

Yes, you will require an active Origin account in addition to a Star Wars: The Old Republic account. You can create a new Origin account by going to the Origin Account Registration page, entering your email address in the appropriate space and clicking “Start my EA Profile.” This will take you to a screen where you can create your EA Master ID and set your password. You can also start a new Origin account by logging in with either your Facebook or PlayStation Network accounts, or by downloading and running the Origin client for the first time.
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Thoraxes

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Yes their digital service is called Origin as are all EA accounts now.

However, and maybe I read this wrong, but it doesn't say anything at all about needing the client to run the game. From what I understand, the Origin client is not required for that, and has not been required for the beta at any rate. (since I've been in it anyways)

I already know though that ToR and Orgin accounts are pretty much one in the same though. My boxed copy preorder code apparently made the client availible for download on Orgin too.
 
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DodgerSan

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Thoraxes said:
Yes their digital service is called Origin as are all EA accounts now.

However, and maybe I read this wrong, but it doesn't say anything at all about needing the client to run the game. From what I understand, the Origin client is not required for that, and has not been required for the beta at any rate. (since I've been in it anyways)

I already know though that ToR and Orgin accounts are pretty much one in the same though. My boxed copy preorder code apparently made the client availible for download on Orgin too.
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Re-reading it, I think you might be right. It does say Origin account, not Origin client.

Reading comprehension ftw ;)
 
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Emitan

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There's a difference between requiring an Origin account and requiring Origin. I use my Origin email and password login for Burnout Paradise's online despite the game being created before Origin existed. It's just a catchall EA login.

EDIT: If you have a login on SWTOR.com, you have the account you need.
 
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Woorloog

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Mastamind said:
have you ever read the ea support horror stories... same shit different name
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I haven't read horror stories really, just stories about good service. That said, my emailed question about an issue i had was completly ignored and i got later a response: "Do you want to take part in a survey about customer service?" and there was a story in BF3 thread about somene explaininng their issue on PC and the answer being "What console?"

EA really needs to make sure their customer service is top-notch for SWTOR but not neglect Origin/other game customer service to achieve that.

A friendly reminder about NeoGAF Empire here.
 
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Cystm

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Early Game Access Details Revealed


One of the benefits to pre-ordering Star Wars™: The Old Republic™ is that you will gain Early Game Access before launch on December 20th. This is a chance to start your epic Star Wars saga early, as you’ll be able to create and play your character ahead of the official live game launch.

Many of you have been wondering how long Early Game Access will last, and we are now happy to announce that depending on when you redeem your Pre-Order Code, you will gain Early Game Access up to five days before the official game launch date.

Early Game Access is staggered over five days to ensure a quality experience for players at launch. Staggering access aids server stability and a gradual increase in player population through the game. Early Game Access will be granted according to when your Pre-Order Code is redeemed at the Code Redemption Center. If you have not yet pre-ordered Star Wars: The Old Republic, there’s still time! Visit our Pre-Order page for more information and watch the Collector’s Edition Unboxing video for a peek inside this highly coveted edition of the game.

Keep up to date with the latest official news on Star Wars: The Old Republic, including any updates on Early Game Access by visiting www.StarWarsTheOldRepublic.com, or by liking us on Facebook and following us on Twitter.
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Edit: Ugh. This was already posted.

Here, have some fluff :/

SWTOR Racial Abilities video via Betacake. Essentially emotes.

And apparently these are 4xAA on, max settings at 1920×1080 resolution screenshots.

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What are the two on the ramp way staring at?

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Imperial setting is so much more interesting looking so far from what I have seen than the what the rebs are working with.
 
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Zinga

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Gvaz said:
Hah, this Rift trial is already looking much better than the TOR beta. This is absurd.
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Rift is a very good MMO, I enjoyed it immensely. To me though it's not going to hold a candle to TOR at launch, personally I enjoyed the story and lore of TOR in my beta playthrough much more than Rift's.
 
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Takeda Kenshi

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Zinga said:
Rift is a very good MMO, I enjoyed it immensely. To me though it's not going to hold a candle to TOR at launch, personally I enjoyed the story and lore of TOR in my beta playthrough much more than Rift's.
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Dec. 20th can't come soon enough. Seriously.
 
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jstevenson

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If you want a code, just pre-order on Amazon and then cancel your pre-order. Not that hard.
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yea, Amazon specifically says they'll cancel your code + you can't order the CE there anymore.

my own fault for dilly-dallying around. I've sent Bioware support an e-mail, as apparently they can help for folks who pre-ordered CE at BBY and got a bad code from them
 
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