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Star Wars: The Old Republic [Releasing Date: Dec 20 NA/EU - NDA Lifted]

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Woorloog

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Kem0sabe said:
They should implement a dueling arena for 1 vs 1 Empire - Republic fights, preferably on a lava planet and with dismemberment...
Heh, only problem is that SWTOR PVP is a team oriented, no? No one can one shot others, right?
1v1 PVP is rarely balanced, but mirroring classes... now those are interesting.
 

Moaradin

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Woorloog said:
Heh, only problem is that SWTOR PVP is a team oriented, no? No one can one shot others, right?
1v1 PVP is rarely balanced, but mirroring classes... now those are interesting.

Well you can 1 v 1 duel in the game, and there are different open world PvP zones on a dozen planets. Tatooine has a place where you can free for all PvP.
 
Woorloog said:
Heh, only problem is that SWTOR PVP is a team oriented, no? No one can one shot others, right?
1v1 PVP is rarely balanced, but mirroring classes... now those are interesting.

Yea PVP is more team oriented combat like WAR, though not to the same extent.
 

Kem0sabe

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Nothing like open world pvp, it´s a pity that people these days expect instanced battlegrounds and gimmick like gameplay instead of free for all.
 

Ferny

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Czar and myself were going to wait till closer to launch to finalize it but I think most people wanted just a fun and casual experience and PVE = less headaches.

Also on the discussion of GAF guilds dying..while it is true a lot do end up dying fairly quickly, some end up with a small tight group. Look at the GAF WoW guild that just started up. Lots of cool people in there and they help each other constantly. Im confident both sides will have the very active people along with people who end up leaving after the first month. We'll see how it goes though.
 

Agkel

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I'm starting to rethink if I should get the game. :(

I played on one of the weekend betas and loved it but I have such a fucking huge backlog all the way back to last gen (I own all 3 consoles of last and current gen plus portables) and MMOs just suck too much time. I really don't know what to do...

In the immediate future I have skyrim, and bf3 purchases and the new LOTR to play with my gf since we just finished castle crashers. I've also been playing tons of WoW and even though I'm only interested in PvP (which sucks less time than PvE) it still sucks a lot of my free time... Sigh if days only had 48hrs...
we would ask for more hrs!!!
 

Rflagg

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I am just checking back in been avoiding this thread because I don't want to break nda and because at times it just gets silly.

Is either of the gaf guilds running in beta? I could use some friends to group with.
 

Fonds

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Agkel said:
I'm starting to rethink if I should get the game. :(

I played on one of the weekend betas and loved it but I have such a fucking huge backlog all the way back to last gen (I own all 3 consoles of last and current gen plus portables) and MMOs just suck too much time. I really don't know what to do...

In the immediate future I have skyrim, and bf3 purchases and the new LOTR to play with my gf since we just finished castle crashers. I've also been playing tons of WoW and even though I'm only interested in PvP (which sucks less time than PvE) it still sucks a lot of my free time... Sigh if days only had 48hrs...
we would ask for more hrs!!!

I've got a solution to your *problem*... boot WoW from the schedule.

Done.
 

Moaradin

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I wonder what Blackface thinks of the new build. I remember a couple weeks ago he was complaining about Bioware not listening to the testers.
 

LowParry

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Moaradin said:
I wonder what Blackface thinks of the new build. I remember a couple weeks ago he was complaining about Bioware not listening to the testers.

Probably looking to find more reasons to bitch about the game. The game in its current state is pretty impressive.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Duh, 3 people have set applications (i accepted you jeroc) but i do not know if they're GAFers. Probably are... please, try to remember PM me or post here so that i know who you're.

EDIT SWTOR site names are LordPhol, OrgunUK and haradakuseven

EDIT2 You want to be an officer? I'll make you one but be ready to accept responsibility once we determine those.
 

Woorloog

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Yeah i noticed, copy paste name to NeoGAF search... Accepted you and LordPhol but not haradakuseven yet as i do not know who he (or she) is, didn't find the name from NeoGAF.

Two pre-orders needed still by the way.
 

Woorloog

Banned
dogmanstaruk said:
Still no fucking invite.

/cry
I gave up months ago. I'd really love to test the game, i want to make it better in anyway i can while testing and i want to try it out. But ultimately i think i will like this one regardless. I liked WoW a lot (expect the endgame part, ridiculous gear grind prevented me from entering it) and i've like all the BW games i've played.
 

Trickster

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Why does the topic title state that the game releases in both NA and EU on dec 20th? I thought it released on the 23rd in EU?
 

Agkel

Member
Fonds said:
I've got a solution to your *problem*... boot WoW from the schedule.

Done.

That might be the solution, there's 2 main reasons I play wow

1) PvP (BF3 will replace that)
2) to play with my brother (again BF3 will replace that and worse case scenario i know i could get him to join me on TOR)

I guess for the time been I could either lapse or get the 1year deal for wow sub(free diablo 3) and if TOR doesnt cut it fall back to it and if it does do some last WoW Arena Fraps and bid adeu to it.
 
Kem0sabe said:
Nothing like open world pvp, it´s a pity that people these days expect instanced battlegrounds and gimmick like gameplay instead of free for all.

It really doesn't have any major impact in any game, only few players do it even and the games that did try to focus on open world pvp never really took off nor really worked. Gank fests, faction imbalances, zerg rushes.
 

jstevenson

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oh crap guys, I think my wife is getting me a gaming PC and this for Christmas... not sure why she wants to be a SWTOR widow... but, oh well.
 

Fonds

Member
Nice to see you've almost met your requirement Woorloog.

I'm playing BF3 as well at the moment. It really does give me my "competative fix". But an MMO is an entirely different kind of competition imho.
I played Cata almost primarily for PvP and it was amazing. For about a month. About that time my Arenateammate (also in NeoGAF) and I had pretty much gotten everything we could get and boredom marked my face a sledgehammer. WoW's just so empty right now it's astounding.
After that month you're just left with nothing at all to do.

I'm hoping TOR can fill the void.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Oh, one more pre-order, then we have a nice 4 member guild...
Anyone have a friend who is gonna play SWTOR on The Empire's side? As i said, i accept friends and relatives of NeoGAFers as well.
 

Measley

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HixxSAFC said:
Looks like the Imperial Agent progression vid will be todays update if their latest twitter update is anything to go by:

“Secure transmission established. This is Keeper. We may speak freely, Agent; prepare to receive your orders.”

edit:

Yep, Imperial Agent progress vid:

http://www.swtor.com/news/news-article/20111104

Good news for future IA players. I know they were looking forward to this.

Wow, that's a pretty cool class...

Still prefer my BH though.
 

Woorloog

Banned
Damn, Imperial Agent Sniper looks really cool. Digging the orbital strike a lot.
Bounty Hunter or Agent, Bounty Hunter or Agent, GAH! It doesn't help both Sith classes are extremly appealing as well!
 

mcfrank

Member
According to this http://buy.swtor.com/us/ in the fine print at the bottom - "EARLY GAME ACCESS MAY BE UP TO 5 DAYS. THE LENGTH OF YOUR EARLY GAME ACCESS DEPENDS ON THE DATE AND ORDER IN WHICH YOU REDEEMED YOUR PRE-ORDER CODE AT THE CODE REDEMPTION CENTER. SEE PRE-ORDER FAQ FOR MORE DETAILS."

So it sounds like Dec 15th, the day Galaxies goes dark, will be the day TOR becomes available.
 

Woorloog

Banned
mcfrank said:
According to this http://buy.swtor.com/us/ in the fine print at the bottom - "EARLY GAME ACCESS MAY BE UP TO 5 DAYS. THE LENGTH OF YOUR EARLY GAME ACCESS DEPENDS ON THE DATE AND ORDER IN WHICH YOU REDEEMED YOUR PRE-ORDER CODE AT THE CODE REDEMPTION CENTER. SEE PRE-ORDER FAQ FOR MORE DETAILS."

So it sounds like Dec 15th, the day Galaxies goes dark, will be the day TOR becomes available.
Oh. Hmm. I'll probably get 5 day early access then, pre-ordered very early, the day the program started i thinkg. Or the next day.
Reading the small print is useful ><
 

mcfrank

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The first week is going to be a nightmare, no matter how they do it. Even if they have the server capacity for everyone who wants in, the mob respawn rate will certainly cause bottlenecks and waiting around.
 

bounchfx

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mcfrank said:
The first week is going to be a nightmare, no matter how they do it. Even if they have the server capacity for everyone who wants in, the mob respawn rate will certainly cause bottlenecks and waiting around.
Not if they do their jobs correctly. There's no reason they can't scale respawn rates or hell, instance parts of the beginner zones to accommodate the explosion of players.
 

Woorloog

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bounchfx said:
Not if they do their jobs correctly. There's no reason they can't scale respawn rates or hell, instance parts of the beginner zones to accommodate the explosion of players.
AFAIK, Sharding is going to be used during the launch partially due these issues. But don't take my word on it.
 

sangreal

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mcfrank said:
The first week is going to be a nightmare, no matter how they do it. Even if they have the server capacity for everyone who wants in, the mob respawn rate will certainly cause bottlenecks and waiting around.

The open world is instanced :\
 

Somnia

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Love the IA video which is what I'm rolling. I think I'm going the healer route, but damn the sniper side looks bad ass.
 

Cystm

Member
sangreal said:
The open world is instanced :\

Only during periods of a mass influx of players, i.e. launch.

I think it is a better solution than server queues, because depending on how popular your server is, you could be looking at a hour long wait to get in, or potentially longer.
 
I was pretty set on Jedi Knight, but I've been watching these class videos, and I just don't know anymore. Smuggler in particular is looking pretty good to me.
 

syko de4d

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bounchfx said:
Not if they do their jobs correctly. There's no reason they can't scale respawn rates or hell, instance parts of the beginner zones to accommodate the explosion of players.
we will see, it´s Bioware first MMO. Man, it´s Bioware first real MP Game xD
And according to the Pre Orders swtor will have the biggest launch ever for a new MMO.
 

Giolon

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Wow, the IA video didn't hold up compared to the Smuggler video. Everything in the IA one looked boring, where the Smuggler seemed incredibly badass from shooting the Sith twirler Indiana Jones style to fending off an assault as a Gunslinger while wearing the awesome cowboy hat and bandana.
 

Emitan

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Heads up, peeps! NDA will be lifted "soon". I don't know what soon means.

Also I got another email saying I'm in the beta. lol
 
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