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[Goro Majima]

So it's possible that you only get to play for one day? Ouch.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

I haven't logged into the website for the old republic since they were hacked, and had to reset my password. I submitted the reset and am waiting for the email for further info on how to do this. It's been 30 minutes, how long does it normally take?

I have reset my password and others have reset it multiple times and we still can't login.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I have reset my password and others have reset it multiple times and we still can't login.

Isn't this an issue with EA/Origin as a whole. They put out the nonsense about security and had people changing their passwords and then we had to do it again and with all the congestion from people trying to sign up for TOR beta at the same time, its causing a big problem. Had issues with BF3 because of it too.

 

[Lombax]

Is anyone else having issues with the old republic website? I can not do anything without getting bumped to a waiting page.

 

[Confused101]

I just accepted yesterday. Looks like I'm pretty well screwed. Oh well. Skyrim all weekend it is then.

 

[Azih]

When I tested it wasn't the game client itself that caused me issues. It was the website. Seems like that's holding true.

 

[-NeoTB1-]

Is anyone else having issues with the old republic website? I can not do anything without getting bumped to a waiting page.

"Please note that SWTOR.com will be undergoing maintenance from 6:00 PM CST on Monday, 11/21 until 6:00 AM CST on Tuesday, 11/22. During that time, you will not be able to visit the Game Tester Portal to accept your invitation. Please visit the website before or after this window to accept your invitation, and thank you for your understanding!"

My guess is they are still doing maintenance.

 

[nataku]

I hope they send out details on when people get to play soon. I'm not going to bother downloading 20GB if I only have 14 hours to play.

 

[Furoba]

fuck this shit, beta won't work with a proxy... won't have proper connection until next week... so I guess no beta for me.

 

[Askani]

Where does it tell you what your testing schedule is? I'm not seeing what weekend I'm scheduled for.

 

[LowParry]

Where does it tell you what your testing schedule is? I'm not seeing what weekend I'm scheduled for.

Still unknown right now.

 

[Deadly]

I'm stuck in what seems to be an infinite loop of the waiting queue.

All I want to do is check if my password freaking works. First time, it tells me to login to confirm but I can't login cause of the password fiasco and now I just got an email saying that I'm confirmed for testing. Great

 

[Askani]

Still unknown right now.

Ohh...I got it. Just reread some. All this talk of waves confused me. I was expecting it to be waves of assigned weekends, not waves of when you can log in this weekend. I'm going out of town. Stupid Tgive. Stupid family obligations.

 

[Anoregon]

This whole "tester will be accepted in waves" bugs me. If you are in wave 3 you are pretty much screwed.


Can't wait for the damn early access next month so we are done with this friggin beta. Also, its not helping to read the already "elitism" brewing on the beta forum. WWWAAAAAHHH we regular testers wants to be seperated from the weekenders testers because they make the game unplayable for us.

Way to go guys, way to go. Doesn't bold well for release with such tards lurking on the forum already.

It's elitist to want to be able to play the game without 3 hour queues? Well pardon me for having such outrageous demands. Last beta weekend, they added like 15 servers for the weekend, but a bulk of the weekend testers still crammed onto the general beta servers causing the terrible queues. If people actually made better use of the weekend servers, this would have been alleviated. I don't know why this idea is somehow offensive to people. It has nothing to do with a "we're better than them" mentality, it's better for everyone if people can actually play the game.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

It's elitist to want to be able to play the game without 3 hour queues? Well pardon me for having such outrageous demands. Last beta weekend, they added like 15 servers for the weekend, but a bulk of the weekend testers still crammed onto the general beta servers causing the terrible queues. If people actually made better use of the weekend servers, this would have been alleviated. I don't know why this idea is somehow offensive to people. It has nothing to do with a "we're better than them" mentality, it's better for everyone if people can actually play the game.

Agreed. My playing time is limited as it is. If I get home and get an hour queue, that's a third or sometimes half of my playtime for the night. I'm simply not paying for the game past a month if that's the case. They need to increase their server capability to handle demand. Especially considering this is a pay-to-play subscription.

 

[The_Inquisitor]

Agreed. My playing time is limited as it is. If I get home and get an hour queue, that's a third or sometimes half of my playtime for the night. I'm simply not paying for the game past a month if that's the case. They need to increase their server capability to handle demand. Especially considering this is a pay-to-play subscription.

Yes, but it's going to be temporary. It's not like you're going to have 3 months of 2h+ queues. If after a week and a half it's still bad, then yes I would complain.

One thing they are trying is automatically assigning guilds to servers in order to more evenly distribute pre-orders. It's a big reason I suggest GAFers join the republic or empire (Don't join empire, it's clearly inferior) guild now so you easily get transitioned.

 

[syoaran]

Agreed. My playing time is limited as it is. If I get home and get an hour queue, that's a third or sometimes half of my playtime for the night. I'm simply not paying for the game past a month if that's the case. They need to increase their server capability to handle demand. Especially considering this is a pay-to-play subscription.

This is what a stress test is designed to do... To see how well you cope and to evaluate the need to buy more equipment and hire more personal if needed

 

[DodgerSan]

Agreed. My playing time is limited as it is. If I get home and get an hour queue, that's a third or sometimes half of my playtime for the night. I'm simply not paying for the game past a month if that's the case. They need to increase their server capability to handle demand. Especially considering this is a pay-to-play subscription.

When you're PAYING for the game, absolutely.

When you're TESTING the game, absolutely not.

Coupled with the fact that some of these guys are regular (non-weekend) testers. They've had weeks to 'test' the game and now they're whining that their weekend PLAYtime is inconvenienced.

Not on.

 

[LowParry]

Agreed. My playing time is limited as it is. If I get home and get an hour queue, that's a third or sometimes half of my playtime for the night. I'm simply not paying for the game past a month if that's the case. They need to increase their server capability to handle demand. Especially considering this is a pay-to-play subscription.

Shit happens.

 

[MrPing1000]

Can't log in unless I have security questions set up.

Security questions page refuses to load. Good Stuff.

Yep it's an mmo beta.

 

[indigo-cyclops]

Can't log in unless I have security questions set up.

Security questions page refuses to load. Good Stuff.

Yep it's an mmo beta.

Was just going to post about this - how fucked of a website they have.

It hasn't loaded properly for me for days.

Glad I've got very little interest in it, though I was excited to play the beta this weekend.

 

[MrPing1000]

Took 30mins but I got it to save. Downloading now.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Yes, but it's going to be temporary. It's not like you're going to have 3 months of 2h+ queues. If after a week and a half it's still bad, then yes I would complain.

One thing they are trying is automatically assigning guilds to servers in order to more evenly distribute pre-orders. It's a big reason I suggest GAFers join the republic or empire (Don't join empire, it's clearly inferior) guild now so you easily get transitioned.

The assigning guilds is a great idea since I'm already guilded with the peeps I played SWG with.

My point is with a high profile game like this, there's no excuse. They stand to make BILLIONS of dollars with this game. *IF* it's done right. If they piss all over the new user experience with wait times, they may lose some subscribers.

Perhaps they don't consider it cost effective to add the backend hardware required compared to the potential for cancelled subscriptions...but it'd be nice to have a company err on the side of caution for a game of this scope.

This ain't Aion. This ain't Warhammer. This is Star Wars. I mean, if *ANY* mmo has a real chance to pull in high consistent subscriber numbers (not "beat" wow), this is it.

 

[Jomjom]

I was able to download the launcher, but when I tried to sign in, it said I had to finalize? I already RSVP'd, so is finalization something different? I've already received my email saying that I can download the game after RSVPing.

 

[LowParry]

Guess there's been this RSVP loop going on with accounts. I think I've been a victim of it. From the Dev tracker:

"Overnight our ops team isolated and manually fixed the majority of affected accounts. There are scripts running to continue to try to 'catch' anyone with this issue. Those still have some time to run.

If you find that you still have this issue past 9AM CST (in about 30 minutes from the time of this post) please email support@swtor.com with the subject line 'RSVP Issues.' To be specific about what you're seeing: after receiving an email prompting you to RSVP, you'll go to the site, login to your account, attempt to click 'Accept' and find the page refreshes with no apparent effect. This will persist more than once, and after logging out and logging back into the site.

If you have any other issues, again please email support@swtor.com with a description of your problem so we can direct people to help fix things. Thank you!"

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Shit happens.

That's a bullshit excuse when we're talking about a game that stands to make the money Bioware/EA is gonna make.

Improve your server architecture to handle peak load. If that's not TECHNICALLY possible, then take a half hour and communicate to your playerbase exactly how and why that's not possible/realistic.

 

[Feeroper]

It's elitist to want to be able to play the game without 3 hour queues? Well pardon me for having such outrageous demands. Last beta weekend, they added like 15 servers for the weekend, but a bulk of the weekend testers still crammed onto the general beta servers causing the terrible queues. If people actually made better use of the weekend servers, this would have been alleviated. I don't know why this idea is somehow offensive to people. It has nothing to do with a "we're better than them" mentality, it's better for everyone if people can actually play the game.

Agreed. My playing time is limited as it is. If I get home and get an hour queue, that's a third or sometimes half of my playtime for the night. I'm simply not paying for the game past a month if that's the case. They need to increase their server capability to handle demand. Especially considering this is a pay-to-play subscription.

Dont you guys know what the purpose of a Beta is? You are testing the game, and a server stress test is definetly needed! I think the sense of entitlement here is a little out of hand. I would understand if the game was launched already and you had those complaints, but during a beta you can hardly complain. They need to test these situations out so we can avoid this scenario as much as possible on release.

 

[WarMacheen]

It's elitist to want to be able to play the game without 3 hour queues? Well pardon me for having such outrageous demands. Last beta weekend, they added like 15 servers for the weekend, but a bulk of the weekend testers still crammed onto the general beta servers causing the terrible queues. If people actually made better use of the weekend servers, this would have been alleviated. I don't know why this idea is somehow offensive to people. It has nothing to do with a "we're better than them" mentality, it's better for everyone if people can actually play the game.

Lol, sorry your weekend playtime for a game in a testing phase was interrupted. God forbid other people who only have 3 days to test/play make you wait in a que. If only you had access to the game outside of the weekend trials.

That's a bullshit excuse when we're talking about a game that stands to make the money Bioware/EA is gonna make.

Improve your server architecture to handle peak load. If that's not TECHNICALLY possible, then take a half hour and communicate to your playerbase exactly how and why that's not possible/realistic.

Have you ever participated in an MMO beta/launch?

I 100% guarantee que times at launch

 

[LowParry]

That's a bullshit excuse when we're talking about a game that stands to make the money Bioware/EA is gonna make.

Improve your server architecture to handle peak load. If that's not TECHNICALLY possible, then take a half hour and communicate to your playerbase exactly how and why that's not possible/realistic.

I'm telling you right now. Every MMO that's new, wither it be the second coming of Christ with MMOs or something no one cares about, you're going to see day 1 (or early access in this case) server issues with very long cues. Developers then fret like mad to get new servers up (that same day) and ask that if you wish to avoid the wait time, come on over to our new servers and start up again.

Now, what makes this whole thing interesting is the fact that we already have pre-made guilds that are set and ready for the server of choice that's in. I doubt we'd see a server limitation however I'm curious if say, BioWare already has servers set to keep the flow smooth for all these guilds, will they have those who are just entering the game and pick their server on a separate sort of list.

 

[Last Hearth]

I know it's a beta and nobody is entitled to anything, but still, I think it's bad form to ask people to download 20 GB and give them 14 hours. How much would it hurt to extend it another 24 hours and throw them a bone. I mean technically these people are there to help Bioware out, give them a little something as a show of appreciation.

 

[Fonds]

I honestly don't understand why everyone has such a problem with downloading 20gb.
You get 5 days to do so, and I mean it's 2011... I had this downloaded in 5 hours or something.

 

[Emitan]

The only reason I can see is people are on bandwidth caps, which means you probably shouldn't be beta testing an MMO anyway because you're going to use up a ton of bandwidth for a game you'll only be playing for a few hours.

 

[Kikarian]

The client randomly stopped installing the beta. It was nearly finished aswell. Does anyone know if it carries on from where it left off? I haven't got access to it yet, I will later.

 

[TheContact]

I received the first e-mail, then I signed in this morning to accept the offer. About 20 minutes later I got the e-mail to download the client, but I was already heading to work =\
Definitely going to check this out once I'm home. I see in here that the NDA is lifted, as it's expected to be with this many people in it, but the invites I received implied that the content is still not supposed to be released to the public.

 

[Crimson Clown]

Does the "this environment is currently unavailable for play" mean I have it all downloaded?

 

[Moaradin]

The client randomly stopped installing the beta. It was nearly finished aswell. Does anyone know if it carries on from where it left off? I haven't got access to it yet, I will later.

Just start it up again. It will continue where it left off.

 

[Killthee]

The client randomly stopped installing the beta. It was nearly finished aswell. Does anyone know if it carries on from where it left off? I haven't got access to it yet, I will later.

It resumes but the data check takes while and makes it seem like its doing nothing.

 

[Last Hearth]

Does the "this environment is currently unavailable for play" mean I have it all downloaded?

Yes, it just means the servers aren't up yet.

 

[Kikarian]

Just start it up again. It will continue where it left off.

It resumes but the data check takes while and makes it seem like its doing nothing.

Okay Thanks, I'll start when I'm home.

 

[Anoregon]

Lol, sorry your weekend playtime for a game in a testing phase was interrupted. God forbid other people who only have 3 days to test/play make you wait in a que. If only you had access to the game outside of the weekend trials.

So the fact that it's easy to remedy doesn't matter at all? You have done nothing to help me understand how/why it's a bad idea, elitist, offensive, etc, to try to keep populations of all testers spread out evenly among servers instead of highly concentrated on some and sparse on the others. It doesn't hurt the weekend testers remotely. It all just seems like kneejerk nonsense from people who automatically assume there's some ulterior elitist motive or some other garbage.

 

[GoldenChicken]

The client randomly stopped installing the beta. It was nearly finished aswell. Does anyone know if it carries on from where it left off? I haven't got access to it yet, I will later.

Same thing happened to me and now I have to download it again. I had finished downloading it and was at 95% installation too.

 

[Won]

So the fact that it's easy to remedy doesn't matter at all? You have done nothing to help me understand how/why it's a bad idea, elitist, offensive, etc, to try to keep populations of all testers spread out evenly among servers instead of highly concentrated on some and sparse on the others. It doesn't hurt the weekend testers remotely. It all just seems like kneejerk nonsense from people who automatically assume there's some ulterior elitist motive or some other garbage.

It's elitist to expect some special treatment, which was the reason why it came up in the first place. You will wait in the same queues like everyone else. Sucks for you, suck for everyone else.

Bioware not offering a solution for the good old server/player distribution is a different story and at this point probably to be expected from them.

 

[Anoregon]

It's elitist to expect some special treatment, which was the reason why it came up in the first place. You will wait in the same queues like everyone else. Sucks for you, suck for everyone else.

Bioware not offering a solution for the good old server/player distribution is a different story and at this point probably to be expected from them.

That's a stretch. It's not "special" treatment if the net result benefits everyone in the form of no/lower queues for every tester. It's not a discussion of letting general testers out of the queue so weekend testers have even worse queues to endure. I don't even think the general testing servers need to be off limits to weekend testers, but bioware should make it more explicit in there little "this server has a high population" message that your play experience will be EXTREMELY impacted by the queues on those servers and that the lower pop servers will provide a much more enjoyable weekend.

 

[Anoregon]

Let me rephrase my argument into a question: Why would weekend testers want to play on the general test servers, if it means having to deal with significant queues that could be avoided by playing on a different server?

 

[Mammoth Jones]

When you're PAYING for the game, absolutely.

When you're TESTING the game, absolutely not.

Coupled with the fact that some of these guys are regular (non-weekend) testers. They've had weeks to 'test' the game and now they're whining that their weekend PLAYtime is inconvenienced.

Not on.

Agreed. My statements were made under the assumption that this would be a continual issue when their game went live. Like WoW did. My apologies for not clarifying.

Weekend stress testing is a non-issue. Especially when the game is going to be launched in less than a month.

 

[Mammoth Jones]

Have you ever participated in an MMO beta/launch?

I 100% guarantee que times at launch

Yes, multiple launches. Multiple betas. Always instability issues. Always. I get that. But considering that word of mouth is everything regarding a new MMO, and the vast amount of money EA is going to gain if this game takes off to even a fraction of WoW's userbase I'm wondering if they could add the backend hardware to support such a heavy simultaneous login load.

Perhaps there's a technological limitation that I'm unaware of. Perhaps someone more versed with server hardware could chime in, lol.

 

[Moaradin]

They did say they were adding new servers this weekend. Should wait until then before complaining about the queues.

 

[Fine Ham Abounds]

So do I need 20 gigs to download and install, or 40 gigs?

Unlikely I'll be playing this weekend, but might as well try.

 

[medze]

IIRC someone here once said that you can download and run from an external HDD right? I want to download it at school to save bandwidth and then transfer the files over to my PC. Anyone know if it'll work?

Just wanted to confirm that this does indeed work. Last beta weekend, I started downloading the client at home, continued it at a friends house, and finished it at yet another friends house.

 

[King_Moc]

Very noobish question, but is there a way of playing through all the class stories without starting up a new character? Not a deal breaker, i'd just like to see all the story. Using a new character would feel like wasted time simehow in an MMO.

And is no one doing a PvE euro guild? I'm not sure about PvP. Griefing...griefs me.