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[The Lamonster]

Soooo... I suck hard, it seems. GAF how I starcraft 2?


Are there any good online primers that I should be reading?

We're in the same boat. Let's play together. Lamonster.zone


That goes for all you noobs who can't seem to play at the level that most people seem to play at.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

sent, oh please let it be me ;_;

Don't worry. It's you! Have fun in the beta.

 

[chris-013]

Noooooooooooooooooooo !!!!!! xD

 

[The Lamonster]

Don't worry. It's you! Have fun in the beta.

Awesome

I love seeing shit like this. Hell, it's how I got my key!

 

[GregLombardi]

Omg that's awesome! Wow, congrats Pandaman!

 

[Lord Phol]

I need in this beta like today. This thread is killing me

You should of have gotten one isntead of me, this game doesen't like me for some strange weird voodo-induced reason.
Just now I was rushing a zerg with my ally, and of course he drops leaving me alone with a bunch of roaches. Either I'm very unlucky, or.. nope thats pretty much it.

 

[twdnewh_k]

noooooo I always come in the wrong time

 

[ACE 1991]

We're in the same boat. Let's play together. Lamonster.zone


That goes for all you noobs who can't seem to play at the level that most people seem to play at.

Awesome, I'll add you. My name is ace.abc

 

[Pandaman]

Don't worry. It's you! Have fun in the beta.

HOLY FRICKEN MONKEYS, I LOVE YOU.

YOU'RE A KING, A BOSS.

 

[zoukka]

*sniff* my macro really sucks. It's depressing to only be able to play a few hours here and there and see everyone get vastly better... stupid addicting games STUPID STUPID


And they nerfed the ZERG NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!111 Now my chances are dead against the shitty mmm.

 

[Scrow]

Please say Im doing something wrong and there's som tactic that will make me survive the first rush.

well you said nothing about what you're actually doing, so as far as telling you if you're doing something wrong... we have no idea.

They always traget me .

if it's you versus two of them at the same time in a coordinated attack you pretty much don't stand a chance without your partner coming to back you up. unfortunately by the time your friend gets there it may be too late. what that means is you both need to scout really well and know who they're going to focus before they actually get there.

as far as blocking a rush from only one of them... block your ramp with pylons and gateway, get an early forge to put out a cannon or two? cannon can shoot at them from behind your protective barrier

 

[Lord Phol]

well you said nothing about what you're actually doing, so as far as telling you if you're doing something wrong... we have no idea.

if it's you versus two of them at the same time in a coordinated attack you pretty much don't stand a chance without your partner coming to back you up. unfortunately by the time your friend gets there it may be too late. what that means is you both need to scout really well and know who they're going to focus before they actually get there.

as far as blocking a rush from only one of them... block your ramp with pylons and gateway, get an early forge to put out a cannon or two? cannon can shoot at them from behind your protective barrier

Yeah that's what I'm doing :/, even get out a sentry and block them with a forcewall.
But it's like you said, once you are at that point ur pretty much dead.
I somehow --I might be wrong-- feel like terrans in that regard have it at bit easier, supporting their wall with marines fireing and even scvs repiaring. Zergs also get roaches pretty quick which takes down most 1 tier groundunits.

Wish I could show you with a replay, but i normally start by building about 2-3 probes -> get a pylon by the ramp -> some more probes -> a gateway next to the pylon -> send probe for scouting -> build more probes -> get my zealot -> another gateway -> more zealots -> pylon -> either forge with cannons/another gateway or core so I can get a sentry and some stalkers.
My scout probe dies, and so do I.
With some variations, and not so varying results :/.

When you get rushed 5 times in a row, and with the ladder system demoting you to the bronzeleague from silver you kind of loose the will to play.

 

[Tremis]

damn, shouldn't have slept in!

well, it is good to see that kind of thing anyway. Good on the donor!

 

[Pandaman]

5%! not terrible speeds for a torrent, i wonder if you're always seeding even after you download it...

i cant wait to play with some of you guys, especially those from the starcraft 1 sessions. ^^ if for some reason i get a key in the next rollouts it'll of course be free to a gaffer.

 

[ZealousD]

sent, oh please let it be me ;_;

I HATE YOU! ='(

 

[chris-013]

There is legal direct download link if you want to dl faster. ^^

 

[Freki]

I HATE YOU! ='(

Hate Blizzard for not including their most loyal fans and instead pleasing some random WoW players...

 

[Pandaman]

I HATE YOU! ='(

Zealous, you know how moe you are to me, but its a price im willing to pay.

hopefully, you'll forgive me.

 

[Pandaman]

There is legal direct download link if you want to dl faster. ^^

my connection tends to crap out with transfer speeds over 1MBps. it can do them, but if you so much as turn on a microwave the wifi dies. so part files are usually better for me as i dont risk losing a spot in queue if i leave and the connection dies.

 

[mint]

mint.mint if anyone wants to play right now

 

[Scrow]

Wish I could show you with a replay, but i normally start by building about 2-3 probes -> get a pylon by the ramp -> some more probes -> a gateway next to the pylon -> send probe for scouting -> build more probes -> get my zealot -> another gateway -> more zealots -> pylon -> either forge with cannons/another gateway or core so I can get a sentry and some stalkers.

most people will probably feel this is a strange build, but it's something i've been playing around with. it's best used against terran.

1. don't spend the first 50 minerals you're given at the beginning on a worker, save it for a pylon.
2. As soon as you hit 100 minerals put a pylon down and send probe back to minerals.
3. As soon as pylon is warped in and you're at 150 minerals, put a Gateway down.
4. Send that probe you used to make the gateway off to scout and find where your opponents are.
4.2 Scout for an enemy that hasn't blocked the ramp perfectly (this build is only effective as a rush if you can get up the ramp). As soon as you've found the base send the probe back to mine minerals, or you can leave it around the ensure the ramp doesn't get blocked.
5. If you hit 150 minerals while waiting for the gateway to spawn, produce a worker, but you must always have 100 minerals ready to go so that when the gateway is warped in you can immediately start producing a zealot.
6. Once gateway has warped in immediately produce a zealot and crono boost the gateway.
7. Set the Gateway's rally point to your opponents base.
8. Again, if you ever hit 150+ minerals, produce another worker.
8.2 The second the first zealot runs from the gateway produce another and crono boost immediately. keep doing this. your gateway should constantly be producing a zealot.
9. Let the first zealot go into the base solo, there should only be 1 or 2 marines produced and the zealot should be able to kill them both if they aren't barricaded behind supply depots and barracks.
10. By the time you kill the two marines your second zealot should be arriving. Set them both onto any barracks and any supply depots.
10.2 kill any marines that pop out before you destroy the barracks.
11. Soon your third zealot will arrive and you just need to keep them destroying marines, barracks, supply depots, scvs as the zealots keep streaming in and reinforcing your little harassment group.

Even if you don't wipe him out completely, the harassment will screw his economy especially if he's having to rebuild barracks, supply depots, scvs, or even if he's pulling the scvs off the mineral line to take you out. the main thing is since you're harassing him, he is not harassing you.

anyway, the key step in that whole thing is not spending your first 50 minerals on a worker and saving it for a pylon instead so you can get a power grid out ASAP for the gateway to be placed on. makes a big difference to how quickly you can get that first zealot out and if you're lucky to find a ramp that isn't blocked yet, your zealot can get in and cause your opponent a lot of headaches.

 

[ZealousD]

Remote mining with Nydus Worm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCRVrypnPs

That's fucking awesome. :lol

Obviously only top-tier players will be able to do this effectively, but it'll be interesting to see how this affects high-level Zerg play.

 

[Lord Phol]

most people will probably feel this is a strange build, but it's something i've been playing around with. it's best used against terran.

1. don't spend the first 50 minerals you're given at the beginning on a worker, save it for a pylon.
2. As soon as you hit 100 minerals put a pylon down and send probe back to minerals.
3. As soon as pylon is warped in and you're at 150 minerals, put a Gateway down.
4. Send that probe you used to make the gateway off to scout and find where your opponents are.
4.2 Scout for an enemy that hasn't blocked the ramp perfectly (this build is only effective as a rush if you can get up the ramp). As soon as you've found the base send the probe back to mine minerals, or you can leave it around the ensure the ramp doesn't get blocked.
5. If you hit 150 minerals while waiting for the gateway to spawn, produce a worker, but you must always have 100 minerals ready to go so that when the gateway is warped in you can immediately start producing a zealot.
6. Once gateway has warped in immediately produce a zealot and crono boost the gateway.
7. Set the Gateway's rally point to your opponents base.
8. Again, if you ever hit 150+ minerals, produce another worker.
8.2 The second the first zealot runs from the gateway produce another and crono boost immediately. keep doing this. your gateway should constantly be producing a zealot.
9. Let the first zealot go into the base solo, there should only be 1 or 2 marines produced and the zealot should be able to kill them both if they aren't barricaded behind supply depots and barracks.
10. By the time you kill the two marines your second zealot should be arriving. Set them both onto any barracks and any supply depots.
10.2 kill any marines that pop out before you destroy the barracks.
11. Soon your third zealot will arrive and you just need to keep them destroying marines, barracks, supply depots, scvs as the zealots keep streaming in and reinforcing your little harassment group.

Even if you don't wipe him out completely, the harassment will screw his economy especially if he's having to rebuild barracks, supply depots, scvs, or even if he's pulling the scvs off the mineral line to take you out.

anyway, the key step in that whole thing is not spending your first 50 minerals on a worker and saving it for a pylon instead so you can get a power grid out ASAP for the gateway to be placed on. makes a big difference to how quickly you can get that first zealot out and if you're lucky to find a ramp that isn't blocked yet, your zealot can get in and cause your opponent a lot of headaches.

That sounds kind of.. brilliant! :O
Well worth a try or 2, thank you for taking your time and giving such great tips even when I feel like a big whiner :>.
I'm not gonna quit! I'll just ride it out until the buffs and skills kicks in!

 

[Fragamemnon]

Dunno, any decent Terran player will just pull SCVs (as units that fast usually mean some kind of all-in strategy, which yours is) and prevent your zealots from getting near the marines.

It might work against people who just sit there and let their marines die, I suppose.

 

[mint]

Need one more for 2v2

 

[mint]

Remote mining with Nydus Worm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SCRVrypnPs

That's fucking awesome. :lol

Obviously only top-tier players will be able to do this effectively, but it'll be interesting to see how this affects high-level Zerg play.

I think we can see that until they build a hatch there, nice but definiately not something the player will keep doing.

 

[zoukka]

I'm up for games. There a IRC channed where you meet up?? Hook a nerd up.

zoukka.fin

 

[Lord Phol]

Dunno, any decent Terran player will just pull SCVs (as units that fast usually mean some kind of all-in strategy, which yours is) and prevent your zealots from getting near the marines.

It might work against people who just sit there and let their marines die, I suppose.

What would you/do you do playing as protoss versus terran?
Curious to hear how good playser do so I can learn :>.

 

[darkpaladinmfc]

Where can I get 'pro'-level player's replay files? Being able to watch replays in-game is so much more useful than just watching a VOD.

 

[nilbog21]

fuuuck it hurts so much, i always check this thread to see if ppl are giving away extras ;[

big fuck you to my dear friends over at blizz, only played your game for 8 yrs and opted-in day 1 ;/ also a big fuck you to all the people that have keys but dont play it ;D

 

[Pandaman]

Panda.Craft

 

[Terproerg]

Grats on key, hope blizz sends one my way with the last wave :S

 

[Raide]

I am seeing more and more matches where things end in less than 5 mins. Then I get a gg. :lol

I really need to work on my build order for stuff.

 

[Pandaman]

Grats on key, hope blizz sends one my way with the last wave :S

thanks, i look forward to playing with you ter. ^^

hehe, won my first game!

 

[ZealousD]

By the way, I'm still looking for some help on the OT. Especially need somebody who knows their way around Photoshop.

 

[MisterAnderson]

ARG I'M JEALOUS SOMEONE GIVE ME BETA KEY PLZ

Congratz!

 

[Pandaman]

By the way, I'm still looking for some help on the OT. Especially need somebody who knows their way around Photoshop.

what would you need?

2-0 placement league is free.

 

[Terproerg]

no more screens .
is it really that easy?

 

[Shambles]

Common sense won't stop me from checking my battle.net on a daily basis!

 

[hyduK]

Common sense won't stop me from checking my battle.net on a daily basis!

daily isn't so bad, I'm bi-hourly currently.

 

[Pandaman]

no more screens .
is it really that easy?

third guy didn't know when to quit, but yea, basically.

cant wait to get into a real league.

 

[Arzehn]

daily isn't so bad, I'm bi-hourly currently.

I don't think we have a chance on weekends. :/

 

[momolicious]

I think alot of people need to calm down. If you dont get in, is it that bad? Its just beta testing and the Finished Product is finally coming out this first half of the year, Is it really that bad to have a better experience with the final product?

 

[Apath]

I think alot of people need to calm down. If you dont get in, is it that bad? Its just beta testing and the Finished Product is finally coming out this first half of the year, Is it really that bad to have a better experience with the final product?

It's something people have been waiting for coming around 10 years now. Add that level of anticipation with other people getting to play the game right in front of you -- the majority most likely never even having played SC1 before -- and you get some fucked up shit. It's like starving and having someone eat a banquet in front of you.

 

[nilbog21]

bro some of us play competitively and want to jump in the scene asap. some of us don't really enjoy your casual/brainless BGH/UMS games. have fun w/ the single player on the "final product" tho ;/

 

[aznpxdd]

Please don't post any more screens of you winning. Seriously.

 

[momolicious]

It's something people have been waiting for coming around 10 years now. Add that level of anticipation with other people getting to play the game right in front of you -- the majority most likely never even having played SC1 before -- and you get some fucked up shit. It's like starving and having someone eat a banquet in front of you.

How do you know most people who got in beta have never played starcraft 1.

 

[Mudkips]

How do you know most people who got in beta have never played starcraft 1.

Yeah, that's pretty much the dumbest assumption ever.
The vast majority of the people in beta have played SC.

 

[Wedge7]

How do you know most people who got in beta have never played starcraft 1.

Seriously man, just stop.

Its annoying and irritating to have someone come in and just say "No beta? No biggie". I mean, its obviously a big deal.

 

[Apath]

How do you know most people who got in beta have never played starcraft 1.

I didn't say I know, I said most likely. In this I reference the Blizzcon beta keys, and how a huge staple of that show are WoW players. That's not even the point really, that was more telling how it's salt on an open wound.

Was that really so hard to infer or were you that dead set on being right?