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[TurtleSnatcher]

Interesting changes.. not sure if I like those factory changes..

That just means people will get to medivac faster =\



Yay for banelings I guess.. still probably be rarely used.

Glad for the slight collosus nerf.. but prob won't do much.

 

[Pandaman]

how about when you destroy a ghost academy, the nuke inside explodes!

 

[Orangepeel]

Wow a lota changes. Does anyone have something to show exactly they've made it easier to see units on creep and the protoss warp ins etc?

 

[Orangepeel]

Interesting changes.. not sure if I like those factory changes..

That just means people will get to medivac faster =\



Yay for banelings I guess.. still probably be rarely used.

Glad for the slight collosus nerf.. but prob won't do much.

They should change their range from upgraded 9, jeez thats far.

 

[Pandaman]

Wow a lota changes. Does anyone have something to show exactly they've made it easier to see units on creep and the protoss warp ins etc?

i dont think the patch is live yet. i would assume they simply coloured the warpins like they do zealot deaths. [the flame is whatever colour you are]

 

[Chris Remo]

i dont think the patch is live yet. i would assume they simply coloured the warpins like they do zealot deaths. [the flame is whatever colour you are]

It looks like the patch is live but Battle.net is still down.

 

[Ice Monkey]

Only if I can uproot my zerg buildings for a WC3 style treant rush.

i think creep needs to be renamed scourge and zerg should get probe/acolyte instabuild. :lol

how about when you destroy a ghost academy, the nuke inside explodes!

this actually sounds awesome! makes sense too, blizzard must listen!

 

[Meeru]

Interesting changes.. not sure if I like those factory changes..

That just means people will get to medivac faster =\



Yay for banelings I guess.. still probably be rarely used.

Glad for the slight collosus nerf.. but prob won't do much.

Colossus nerf is big what are you smoking. It takes an extra shot now to kill unupgraded marines and hydras :lol

 

[Ice Monkey]

It looks like the patch is live but Battle.net is still down.

new maps GO! (what else could it be?)

 

[Chris Remo]

new maps GO! (what else could it be?)

The ladder and account reset, presumably.

 

[Vaporak]

The patch notes are disappointing, I was really hoping there would be something to bring the Protoss tier 1 army up to the levels of the other races, and instead they just get some nerfs to their higher tier units that they depend on. :/

 

[Ice Monkey]

that'd also be nice because it would mean ladder games wouldnt be doomed anymore (at least till retail?)

 

[aznpxdd]

Damnit, they doubled the time of a reactor?? WTF!!

 

[Chris Remo]

The patch notes are disappointing, I was really hoping there would be something to bring the Protoss tier 1 army up to the levels of the other races, and instead they just get some nerfs to their higher tier units that they depend on. :/

The Stalker boost seems good to me, I'm looking forward to trying that out.

 

[maniac-kun]

wow i was playing protoss and build from the start on as soon as i cood carries and i build 5 of them then i moved south found the other protos players base and raped his main building down in about 5 seconds :lol that was fun :lol after some more ownage by my 5 carries he quitted :lol

 

[Ice Monkey]

The patch notes are disappointing, I was really hoping there would be something to bring the Protoss tier 1 army up to the levels of the other races, and instead they just get some nerfs to their higher tier units that they depend on. :/

They did buff stalkers, don't forget zealots can kill a ling in 2 hits until armor upgrade and they also do more than twice as much damage as a marine although they aren't ranged. (2 hits at 8 each versus 6 for marines) At 100 mineral cost they also have 60 more total "health" than two marines (90 at 45 each compared with 100/50 hp/shield) plus the default regenerating shield. Not to mention that a zealot as a comparison to two marines wouldn't lose half it's damage output after half it's health is removed (like a whole marine being focused down before the other).

The only real problem with them is that unless you are awesome with them, since they are a little slow and aren't ranged they can be hard to get the most value out of them.

 

[aznpxdd]

Speedlots were awesome in SC1...zealots with the charge upgrade still kinda blows.

 

[Ice Monkey]

Speedlots were awesome in SC1...zealots with the charge upgrade still kinda blows.

i agree, I find it weird that you look at the hard stats and they seem great but they always seem to disappoint

 

[Pandaman]

Speedlots were awesome in SC1...zealots with the charge upgrade still kinda blows.

seeing them perma charge down a fast unit feels insulting because you know they could run for that 10 seconds of cooldown. :lol

 

[Hazaro]

Speedlots were awesome in SC1...zealots with the charge upgrade still kinda blows.

Zealots with charge move faster and have charge. I think it works well.

 

[MisterAnderson]

Speedlots were awesome in SC1...zealots with the charge upgrade still kinda blows.

Disagreed. Zealots with charge are awesome.

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

Colossus nerf is big what are you smoking. It takes an extra shot now to kill unupgraded marines and hydras :lol

I'm pretty sure this only changes if marines have the Combat Shield upgrade. Without it they have 35 HP. 2x20 will still take that out. You have to upgrade them to get 45 HP, and since Colossus does 40 and not 46 damage, it won't kill them. So no, it does not take an extra shot to kill an unupgraded marine, only an upgraded one.

 

[aznpxdd]

Disagreed. Zealots with charge are awesome.

They are easy as hell to kite. They land 1 hit with the charge and needs to wait 10 seconds to be effective again. By that time, they are pretty much dead already.

 

[Ice Monkey]

I'm pretty sure this only changes if marines have the Combat Shield upgrade. Without it they have 35 HP. 2x20 will still take that out. You have to upgrade them to get 45 HP, and since Colossus does 40 and not 46 damage, it won't kill them. So no, it does not take an extra shot to kill an unupgraded marine, only an upgraded one.

its 45 to 55.

 

[Orangepeel]

i dont think the patch is live yet. i would assume they simply coloured the warpins like they do zealot deaths. [the flame is whatever colour you are]

I duno I'm playing against the computer right now and it kinda just looks the same to me, Im not sure of what the difference is supposed to be though hmm

 

[Pandaman]

I duno I'm playing against the computer right now and it kinda just looks the same to me, Im not sure of what the difference is supposed to be though hmm

are you blue?

 

[Apath]

I really like how they lowered gas price and raised minerals, as I've been seeing a lot of game the gas being the big bottle neck on production. Also makes the gold minerals more relevant.

And any patch that changes the early game is fine by me. It gets boring when everyone does the same thing over and over, especially when you can't play and are forced to watch =[

 

[Paz]

This patch is somewhat hilarious to me, I managed to get rank 3 plat with Protoss before quitting them out of frustration at the first ~8 minutes of the game sucking every single game, since moving onto Terran I have a 100% win ratio vs Protoss.

And now they just buffed my new race and nerfed my old one.. On the one hand I am very happy but I feel bad for all the players trying to stick with it using a race that has one single opportunity to win (the moment you have colossus) every single game.

Sure I can't marine/scv rush for a free win against protoss anymore but with the tech lab, factory, and viking buffs I can laugh in the face of players who try to use their one viable strategy (quick tech to colossus/immortal).

 

[ZealousD]

Wow. That nerf to reactor build time seems a bit much. Is it even WORTH it anymore to build a reactor until after you've built a couple barracks?

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

its 45 to 55.

Ah. I stand corrected then. I saw someone post that on TL and assumed it was true.

Actually... it is. I assumed they stimmed. :lol

 

[Pandaman]

Wow. That nerf to reactor build time seems a bit much. Is it even WORTH it anymore to build a reactor until after you've built a couple barracks?

prepatch? i've seen a few people go one barracks one reactor into fast factory. its usually for one gas builds that forego stim and are very marine heavy.

 

[Milabrega]

Wow. That nerf to reactor build time seems a bit much. Is it even WORTH it anymore to build a reactor until after you've built a couple barracks?

I'm thinking its going to have to be Tech lab first barracks and reactor second barracks now.

 

[Paz]

Ah. I stand corrected then. I saw someone post that on TL and assumed it was true.

Actually... it is. I assumed they stimmed. :lol

When someone has colossus and you only have unupgraded marines with no medivacs... Might be bigger problems than damage balance

 

[Pandaman]

I'm thinking its going to have to be Tech lab first barracks and reactor second barracks now.

sweet, thats my build!

 

[ZealousD]

prepatch?

No, post-patch. I went for double reactor racks rushes a couple times pre-patch. Wasn't really unbeatable or anything. Now it seems like you don't want to build a reactor until your 3rd racks.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

Deltron - Buff to Ghost production will make our games fun

 

[AbortedWalrusFetus]

I'm thinking its going to have to be Tech lab first barracks and reactor second barracks now.

That's pretty much what a lot of people already did against Toss, since you didn't have to worry about a rush.

 

[Orangepeel]

are you blue?

I'm blue that I can only play comps? TT

Still hard to tell imo

 

[aznpxdd]

sweet, thats my build!

That's a bad build (pre-patch) in my opinion. I'm gonna need to see how this patch affects my product in the beginning...

 

[Pandaman]

No, post-patch. I went for double reactor racks rushes a couple times pre-patch. Wasn't really unbeatable or anything. Now it seems like you don't want to build a reactor until your 3rd racks.

i agree.

That's a bad build (pre-patch) in my opinion. I'm gonna need to see how this patch affects my product in the beginning...

only when jerks snipe your tech lab seconds before your fast stim finishes...

 

[Hazaro]

The beta database has been reset to help test a launch-condition environment. This includes a wipe of characters and identifiers, friends lists, profiles, league placement, and ladder ranks. We thank you for your continued feedback and testing.

3/25/10 - 7:50PM

:'[
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23766799705&sid=5000&pageNo=5

 

[ZealousD]

I'm blue that I can only play comps? TT

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/6663/screenshot000qm.jpg

Still hard to tell imo

I'm guessing the visibility on creep likely only affected the lowest settings. Creep on the lowest texture settings was much darker than on the medium and higher settings.

 

[Milabrega]

Glad that the ladder has finally reset. But sucks having to make a new identifier, which means I'll likely have to make a new Gaf player list.

I'm guessing the visibility on creep likely only affected the lowest settings. Creep on the lowest texture settings was much darker than on the medium and higher settings.

Testing things on the lowest settings is why I'm here!

 

[Pandaman]

Testing things on the lowest settings is why I'm here!

:lol

i'll still be Panda.Craft if anyone cares. ;_;

 

[aznpxdd]

So it finally got reset? Wanna play tonight Pez?

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

So it finally got reset? Wanna play tonight Pez?

Yes.

Im changing my name btw.

 

[Pandaman]

we should do some gaf concept 1v1s to test builds.

 

[Procarbine]

I will remain procarbine.red, no reason to improve upon perfection.

Have fun redoing the list Mila

 

[aznpxdd]

Pez, what's your name now.

Wait nvm, I thought it reset already.

 

[TurtleSnatcher]

it will be PezRadar.gbx (zomg secrets out)