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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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Oh my god, my first rush victory happened last night ! 
Picked terran, a protoss enemy came into my base "scouting", of course I searched around for other nasty stuff, and found one pylon. Built an early barrack (sd->br->sd->ref->br->2*ext+orbital), then killed said pylon.
Then I was about to prepare bunkers for expansion...
and then there were 3 protoss buildings already o_o Nuked them down fast before any Zealot could come out of it, and then I realized that I might only have 6-8 marine and a few more spawning, but he must have spent a lot of money on these wasted buildings I just destroyed. And I was right, only a few zealots were in the base, which died fast, and I won.
Not sure if it would have been the same if he could place that first pylon in a less obvious spot...
Picked terran, a protoss enemy came into my base "scouting", of course I searched around for other nasty stuff, and found one pylon. Built an early barrack (sd->br->sd->ref->br->2*ext+orbital), then killed said pylon.
Then I was about to prepare bunkers for expansion...
and then there were 3 protoss buildings already o_o Nuked them down fast before any Zealot could come out of it, and then I realized that I might only have 6-8 marine and a few more spawning, but he must have spent a lot of money on these wasted buildings I just destroyed. And I was right, only a few zealots were in the base, which died fast, and I won.
Not sure if it would have been the same if he could place that first pylon in a less obvious spot...
throwawayname
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i love rolling out a bunch of ultras all of a sudden. it's so unexpected :lol
btw, has anyone considered the tactic of hiding key units in your nydus network? it takes a while to mass ultras (unless you have surplus resources), and you don't want your opponent to discover your little cluster of ultras, so you hide them in the network until you're ready to make your surprise push. they might discover the ultralisk cavern, but they won't see any ultras so might think you've only just built it.... and then BAM. ultras knocking at their front door.
could do it with any force of units really. the main thing is you're hiding the true size of your army from the enemy and can surprise them with an overwhelming force they were unable to scout.
btw, has anyone considered the tactic of hiding key units in your nydus network? it takes a while to mass ultras (unless you have surplus resources), and you don't want your opponent to discover your little cluster of ultras, so you hide them in the network until you're ready to make your surprise push. they might discover the ultralisk cavern, but they won't see any ultras so might think you've only just built it.... and then BAM. ultras knocking at their front door.
could do it with any force of units really. the main thing is you're hiding the true size of your army from the enemy and can surprise them with an overwhelming force they were unable to scout.
Orangepeel
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Actually in like warcraft 3 you can just hotkey multiple buildings to a single hotkey now and press tab to switch which sets you have selected. So I can have 4 hatcheries set to 1, hit 1, s for select larvae, and now I've got 15 to choose from.fanboi said:
The Lamonster
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(same as before)
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(same as before)
Scrow said:
Sometimes units and buildings flicker in and out. Meaning that sometimes I cant view a unit or I cant see a building I placed. It isnt artifacting or anything, I just lose visability of the unit/building, I can still see the terrain perfectly. It didnt happen to me pre-patch. I guess this is one of those situations where I should be making a bug report. It hasnt affected me too much, but in the heat of a battle when I cant select my unit, it can be a problem hahaha.
The Lamonster
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hmm does that happen during the replay as well?Cru Jones said:
The Lamonster
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Has anybody noticed the improvements to pathfinding?
Ozorov said:
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TurtleSnatcher
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Corum said:
Cool only 8 hrs late.
(Oh I see - Trying to help the people that totally missed the last few pages
)<3 Corum
TurtleSnatcher
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fanboi said:
chris-013 said:
Zlings and Banelings aren't a 'must'
Zzoram said:
Nah Terran I think have gotten more annoying with faster marauders now =[.. also protoss got a big stalker buff.
claviertekky.exe
woo, so after playing 5 straight rounds after the servers went back up for 2v2, i'm now in COPPER!
I blame my losses on allies who still don't know build orders.
:lol I was in #1 bronze before the reset.
Haven't tried playing 1v1 after the reset. Was gold before, but I was struggling near the bottom half of gold. I'll probably be placed in silver.
woo, so after playing 5 straight rounds after the servers went back up for 2v2, i'm now in COPPER!
I blame my losses on allies who still don't know build orders.
:lol I was in #1 bronze before the reset.
Haven't tried playing 1v1 after the reset. Was gold before, but I was struggling near the bottom half of gold. I'll probably be placed in silver.
Huge nerf to terran with the marine build time increase.
I would have like to see something along the lines of "Hellions - don't suck anymore".
Bunkers taking less time to build? Fuck that - give them more armor. They're fucking bunkers and they go down faster than supply depots.
I would have like to see something along the lines of "Hellions - don't suck anymore".
Bunkers taking less time to build? Fuck that - give them more armor. They're fucking bunkers and they go down faster than supply depots.
With the decrease cost of the Factory, Blizzard wants you to progress to using higher tier units quicker.Mudkips said:
The bunkers are nice for offensive base rushing. It's extremely effective against zerg or even Terran if they choke up.
As for Hellions, I think they make long range nice firebats if you're queuing something else up and need to spend 100 quickly.
They're not good to mass, but they certainly make a small difference.
TurtleSnatcher
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Dont worry.. he never even plays.DemiMatt said:
My ID is still Won.tollo for the EU players out there.
Finished my placements. Not sure why the lowered it to 5. Went 3-2 and now I'm in silver. But I was pretty happy in bronze.
Also thinking about switching races for now. 4 games were toss mirror matches......which is in line with what I have seen so far.....back to random!....or Zerg.
Finished my placements. Not sure why the lowered it to 5. Went 3-2 and now I'm in silver. But I was pretty happy in bronze.
Also thinking about switching races for now. 4 games were toss mirror matches......which is in line with what I have seen so far.....back to random!....or Zerg.
The Lamonster
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Anybody? I haven't gotten a chance to play yet but this is the change that intrigued me the most.The Lamonster said:
Procarbine
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The Lamonster said:
I haven't noticed a change, no.
I just finished 1v1 placement and went into Gold league, courtesy of a speedling/baneling build, this is going to be fun!
I've updated the new list: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20461745&postcount=7361
Be sure if you are in the EU beta to note when you give your ___.___ battle.net that you are in the EU beta.
Be sure if you are in the EU beta to note when you give your ___.___ battle.net that you are in the EU beta.
The Lamonster
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Thanks for doing this again, Mil. I'll update when I get home today!Milabrega said:
CidHighwind89
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Added my eu account to the list.
AbortedWalrusFetus --- WalrusFetus.aborted
Ace1991 --- ace.abc
Anomarad --- Anomarad.anomarad
aznpxdd --- deltron.zero
Claviertekky --- claviertekky.exe
Corran Horn --- Corran.horn
DemiMatt --- demi.batsu
Dreams-Visions --- Adrian.adrianj
FromTheFuture --- Alumnus.Mosaic
Halycon --- Halycon.Halycon
Hazard --- Haz.Ard
Hobart --- hobart.hobartaj
Ice Monkey --- Operation.Cwal
Milabrega --- Milabrega.Milabrega
MisterAnderson --- PyroGX.ptmc
nildog21 --- Vautrin.ziz
Pachinko --- abak.pachinko
Pandaman --- Panda.Craft
PhoenixDark --- StonyJackson.phoenixdark
Procarbine --- Procarbine.red
Scrow --- Scrow.gaf
Telosfortelos --- TelosFour.telos
Terproerg --- Terproerg.terproerg
The Lamonster --- Lamonster.zone
Turtlesnatcher --- Pezradar.gbx
valenti --- valenti.valenti
Wedge7 --- wedge.wedge
Xirj --- dot.folder
ZealousD --- Zealous.demon
Zzoram --- Zzoram.zzoram
EU:
PNstyle --- pnSTYLE.dima
Syoaran --- Syoaran.syo
Won --- Won.tollo
CidHighwind89 --- Battosai.blood
fanboi --- fanboi.gaf
This list isn't for the tournement?
Ace1991 --- ace.abc
Anomarad --- Anomarad.anomarad
aznpxdd --- deltron.zero
Claviertekky --- claviertekky.exe
Corran Horn --- Corran.horn
DemiMatt --- demi.batsu
Dreams-Visions --- Adrian.adrianj
FromTheFuture --- Alumnus.Mosaic
Halycon --- Halycon.Halycon
Hazard --- Haz.Ard
Hobart --- hobart.hobartaj
Ice Monkey --- Operation.Cwal
Milabrega --- Milabrega.Milabrega
MisterAnderson --- PyroGX.ptmc
nildog21 --- Vautrin.ziz
Pachinko --- abak.pachinko
Pandaman --- Panda.Craft
PhoenixDark --- StonyJackson.phoenixdark
Procarbine --- Procarbine.red
Scrow --- Scrow.gaf
Telosfortelos --- TelosFour.telos
Terproerg --- Terproerg.terproerg
The Lamonster --- Lamonster.zone
Turtlesnatcher --- Pezradar.gbx
valenti --- valenti.valenti
Wedge7 --- wedge.wedge
Xirj --- dot.folder
ZealousD --- Zealous.demon
Zzoram --- Zzoram.zzoram
EU:
PNstyle --- pnSTYLE.dima
Syoaran --- Syoaran.syo
Won --- Won.tollo
CidHighwind89 --- Battosai.blood
fanboi --- fanboi.gaf
This list isn't for the tournement?
fanboi said:
No ZealousD's list is the tourney list. This list: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=20461745&postcount=7361 is just the list of NeoGaf members in beta and their account names. Since the reset also reset accounts, we needed a new list.
The Lamonster
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Do any of you guys play Heroes of Newerth? It's pretty damn slick. My name there is TheLamonster.
Just thought I'd mention it here because it doesn't seem to be getting a lot of buzz and StarCraft fans might enjoy it.
Just thought I'd mention it here because it doesn't seem to be getting a lot of buzz and StarCraft fans might enjoy it.
MisterAnderson
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Mudkips said:
Hellions are fine. I'd have opted for some kind of "buff" for Thors though. They have their moments, but I still wonder about their effectiveness versus just paying the slight extra bit more and getting Battle Cruisers instead. I think they need more hitpoints or higher armor at least, they go down pretty fast when focused down by weaker units. And I also think that they should return to being built by an SCV as if it were a building like in the 2007 Terran demo. That shit was cool.
Also, the Mothership needs some kind of buff or ability to make it not just a more expensive, slower Arbiter.