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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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DurielBlack
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Immortals kind of remind me of Reavers. Except they are tougher and dont do splash. I see a lot of videos of them being loaded into warp prisms and dropped in battles or used to harrass.
Can't wait to finally get to be able to re-create my account tomorrow and play some SC2, haven't been able to since patch 9.
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Also that map looks cool. I would add a watchtower in the middle maybe. Shared bases without the retarded huge ramp and super-easy expos looks like a good idea. Its almost the map Twiligth Fortress should have been.
Can't wait to finally get to be able to re-create my account tomorrow and play some SC2, haven't been able to since patch 9.
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Also that map looks cool. I would add a watchtower in the middle maybe. Shared bases without the retarded huge ramp and super-easy expos looks like a good idea. Its almost the map Twiligth Fortress should have been.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Now i been getting fast mutas from zerg....fucckk this shit man.Trasher said:
MeshuggahMan
Member
Corran Horn said:
I've been pretty successfull against zerg when I get a colossus out as fast as I can. On the other hand, when I don't catch sight of a spire and see tons of mutas coming my way.. I basically just say gg. That and cloaked banshees seem to be my downfall =(
MisterAnderson
Member
Halycon said:
Yeah it does look busy but a big part of that is due to having to zoom out to show it all in 1 screenshot, the details are lost and it's hard to see ramps and destructible rocks and such. The start locations are the four elevated greenish areas. The main choke is on the opposite end of the opponent's side, while there's a destructible choke in the front of each base leading to the middle of the map.
I forsee some problems with my layout as is but would like to test it first before I start jumping to conclusions, but thanks for the input and the offer to test it out sometime.
And yeah, symmetrical is essential for a balanced map obviously, I guess I meant I wanted to spice up the art of it by varying the look a bit of the start locations and the two temples on either side, misc. border terrain, doodads, etc. That will come after testing the layout though.
Edit: Hopefully this helps. The circles are start locations. The X's are destructible rocks. The arrows are the main chokes for the start locations. MS Paint FTW:
To set Start Locations go to Layer -> Point. (Or just hit P on your keyboard.) Then select Start Location and place it where you want. I suggest if you're making a melee map to first set down a quick Hive/CC/Nexus first to see where the start location should be placed next to minerals/gas as it won't tell you where you can't place it like you would a normal base. And yes, you can test your map, you just need to set proper player properties.MisterAnderson said:
Edit: Uh-oh, I hope you built your map from the start with map-bounds in-mind. Otherwise you're gonna have a hard time rebuilding it to fit the boundaries.
Also, nice map, better than my first go at a 4 player map. :lol
"Lockey Isle"
watervengeance
Member
The rush distance is quite long. Imagine scouting the wrong way in a 1v1 game. :lol
MisterAnderson
Member
Okay so I just went and loaded up my map again to figure out how to publish it, and it looks like this (sorry for posting another picture, I made it smaller this time)
The lighting completely changed and the shadows are disabled. The graphics in general look like they are medium or low or something...it just looks messed up. I tried turning shadows on and it gave me this message:
Anyone have any idea what's going on and how to fix this?
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The rush distance is actually probably much shorter than say, Desert Oasis. The map itself isn't that big although it has the illusion of looking big. The destructible rocks make the distance between bases much shorter, and also it was pretty much made with only 2v2 in mind. It would be a sucky map for 1v1 since you could start right next to each other.
The lighting completely changed and the shadows are disabled. The graphics in general look like they are medium or low or something...it just looks messed up. I tried turning shadows on and it gave me this message:
Anyone have any idea what's going on and how to fix this?
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watervengeance said:
The rush distance is actually probably much shorter than say, Desert Oasis. The map itself isn't that big although it has the illusion of looking big. The destructible rocks make the distance between bases much shorter, and also it was pretty much made with only 2v2 in mind. It would be a sucky map for 1v1 since you could start right next to each other.
MisterAnderson
Member
MrMister said:
Ah thanks, funnily enough everything was set to ultra, but when I hit "okay" it "refreshed" my settings and went back to normal.
Just got the beta tonight! Really liking it, so far, but I don't like how much it really feels like SC1. That's not really a complaint, as there are loads of really neat new stuff, but I guess I was just expecting something a little more different.
That said, anyone willing to play a couple of rounds with an absolute scrubb? I haven't played SC1 or any RTS games in years, so I'm pretty slow at the moment, but I' catching on fairly quickly. So, I'll be on most of the night tonight. My name on bnet is preservative.fruit. If you want to play, either message me here or there.
That said, anyone willing to play a couple of rounds with an absolute scrubb? I haven't played SC1 or any RTS games in years, so I'm pretty slow at the moment, but I' catching on fairly quickly. So, I'll be on most of the night tonight. My name on bnet is preservative.fruit. If you want to play, either message me here or there.
FleckSplat
Member
okno said:
Sure, I'll play with you. I still have to make a name, the download is just finishing.
watervengeance
Member
Olivero said:
The FPS looks really weird, but that's what you get for a game not designed to look amazing zoomed in.
But holy shit, the Top Down shooter looks like it would be so much fun. They could do SOOOOOOOOOOO much with this.
FleckSplat
Member
Is it normal for the patch updater to reach the end and start over multiple times before the first load?
FleckSplat
Member
MrMister said:
The number in the upper left is going from 0.8.0.xxx to 0.9.xxx
Does that mean they didn't roll all the patches into one file?
Dead Prince
Banned
wtf. i joined a 2v2 with Valenti and when i started it said i was dropped? is that normal?
MisterAnderson
Member
So "Test Document" runs the level in the editor, but is there a way to publish and host a game with custom maps yet? Or has that yet to be implemented?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
no. They said next patch prollyMisterAnderson said:
FleckSplat
Member
Great, I'm patching 0.10.xxxx now and it says I'm suddenly behind a firewall...:lol
Dead Prince
Banned
go into options. but the windowed mode is small. haven't tried to find out how to get it from 800x600MrDenny said:
Actually you can test the maps, just set starting locations, and then in player properties set player 1 to user and then Start Location 001. The rest of the players are set to Computer and then their respective starting positions. Unfortunately though, we can't 'test' maps in multiplayer until we can publish to BNet.Ashhong said:
Anyways, here's Spit Shine Station (or SS Station). A simple (and very small) 1v1 map I made in a few hours, play tested by me. I even got the hang of making correctly sized mineral lines and ramps that you are able to wall off normally, unlike my first map.
"Spit Shine Station"
Up next... well I haven't got a name yet, but Char is the next tileset. Name suggestions welcome! :lol
MisterAnderson
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rhfb said:Looks great! Only suggestion I would have is to only have a single vespene in the starting location to force expansion
The new standard is 2 vespene geysers per base, unlike StarCraft 1 which was only a single one. And yeah, looks great man. I just sorted out my map bounds (wasn't too hard, copy and pasted into a larger sized map) and changed up some stuff by testing with myself, but I'll try what you said and test it with actual computers.
MrCompletely
Member
MrMister said:
Completely awesome! And, you have to be the same MrMister that was giving me tips and chatting up while we watched StaR.Sun's live stream a few nights ago, talking about nerd rage and mmm balls. Thanks for helping me out, I'm Dronehouse.nyc if you want to add me.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Interesting. I wonder how zergs will do there without a natural expansion...or going for a quick gold. Gonna be quick matchesMrMister said:
Holy crap that's you! :lolMrCompletely said:
Indeed, there are basically two styles for laying down mineral/gas lines. Minerals in center with a geyser on each side of the line or two on one side. And glad you got the bounds figured out. :lolMisterAnderson said:
Thanks for the compliments btw guys.
You need a lot more paths between the bases because you can definitely turtle up. This map favours air units too much because it's too constrained for ground units, especially with one ramp to the main.MrMister said:
I'm not sure how much resource you are allocating, but with no natural, it's going to be really slow game.
Halycon said:
oh thats what i meant, yea i knew that. but if say you had an observer, you cant get that in range of the ledge for either the stalkers to attack the turrets or blink up? i dont know the range numbers on the vision vs turrets
anybody know if there is a performance hit if i play in windows fullscreen? i feel like i should be getting better performance than what i am currently getting. playing on ultra which are the recommended settings at 1680x1050. wondering if playing in normal mode will be better
I made the map with "quick" in mind. In fact the rush distance is so short it takes a group of Mards and Marines to reach the opponents main in around 12 seconds. And I'm glad you mentioned air units because I also designed the map for those too, especially transports. Let's say you end up in a position where you have turtled up and your opponent won't let you out of your own ramp, a possible solution would to be to tech and get units that can transport your army/workers over to the expansions, letting you effectively flank his army out front and then proceeding to push into his base.JWong said:
Trust me, the map is much deeper than you see in that preview image.
MisterAnderson
Member
Is there a way to lower the water level? When I choose water and place it down there's no options I can see to choose what level it's placed. And the only other tool selection is remove water.
Man, you should be glad I'm on GAF late tonight making maps! :lolMisterAnderson said:
When you go to add water, there should be a bunch of buttons that selects the kind of water/lava/acid you want, under that should be a button that says "Edit Water", click that and there will be an option to set the height.