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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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Up till now it was just driver resets but I just had my first hard crash; had to reboot the machine.Lathentar said:
Actually it looked the same as when SC1 locks Win 7: HDD activity looks normal and some sounds are still playing normally (not fast looped).
I've been playing on full-screen windowed; gonna try full-screen (non-windowed) for a while.
MisterAnderson
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Edit: Nvm going to bed
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
I'm not sure but I think I'm having an erro with my 1vs1 league. If I go to my ladder page it seems like I am only in the 2vs2 copper now, but if I go to my profile page it clearly says I am rank 22 in my 1vs1 copper league. For some reason the ladder page just won't display it. Has anyone else seen oir heard of this, and is there a way to fix it?
You can do different hotkey layouts. There's a grid layout that corresponds to the (unit) building/commands grid.NIN90 said:
Zotac cup streams: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/leball/v3 (english shitty commentary tho:/)
http://www.sc2tv.ru/starcraft-2/sc2-live/2125-zotac-stream.html (russian, but awesome quality)
http://broadcasting.gamesports.net/de/content/1184/ (german)
Man, there aren't any normal zotac streams, arr anyone know any?
Mengy
wishes it were bannable to say mean things about Marvel
Cru Jones said:
Yeah, I know thats how its supposed to work, but it's not working anymore. It used to, but now it doesn't. Seems like it started (or stopped) right after I finished my 2vs2 placement matches and got into 2vs2 copper league. As soon as that happened I lost the ability to view my ladder rank in 1vs1 for some reason, other than from the profile page summary.
Weird...
ahoyhoy said:
What maps are you selecting? (via the Map Preferences button). I suspect many Terrans are only keeping the maps where Reaper rushes are good, so if you don't have them thumbed down you'll end up playing Terran on them.
I suspect that the map system in place is currently a placeholder to determine what maps are popular and which ones aren't. In WC3, you could only thumbs down N/2-1 maps, where N was the total number of options. Because of that, it would match you against a player then randomly pick whatever maps neither of you thumbed down, which would be at least one. In SC2, you can reject too many maps, so I think you outright won't even get matched against players that you can't agree on.
watervengeance
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I need to get out of the habit of fast expanding. That seems to be the root of all my problems right now. 
watervengeance said:I need to get out of the habit of fast expanding. That seems to be the root of all my problems right now.
What race are you?
Only Zerg can reasonably do it, but the metagame is slowly turning away from that strat as Zealot and fast Tier 1 masses become more popular. Players are becoming more familiar with what maps have short rush distances, and do BOs accordingly.
Allright, finally a stream with decent commentary, djwheat: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/djwheat
Corran Horn said:
theres a range, from cheating with extra minerals, cheating with full map vision, to regular ai. there are some very advanced ones out there now, with multiple build orders, counters, and openers. its a good alternative if you dont have a key... or if you want practice. but its no cakewalk, depending on the ai you play
ahoyhoy said:
Wall-off into MMM is one of the easiest and most effective beginner strategies, but I still think playing on Terran maps is the leading cause. Reject Steppes of War, Incineration Zone, Desert Oasis, and that other 2-player map and see what sort of races you play against.
Starcraft 2 beta works on my Pentium M 1.86GHz, 2GB DDR2 RAM, GeForce Go6800 256MB Dell Inspiron 9300 laptop. I need to run it at 1280x800 with everything on the lowest possible settings though. Also, the game crashed 3 times in 4 hours, possibly due to heat, but no other game has ever done that to my laptop. This thing ran Counterstrike Source maxed with HDR and 2xAA fine, and TF2 on Medium.
Yaweee said:
it's true i've gone 7-0 with MMM between FFA, 1v1 and 2v2. I'm scared to see what the fallout will be when I play someone who actually knows how to counter it. Although in one of my FFA matches some newbie 4 pooled, took out the other 2 players and then quit after my wall off defeated his zerglings. Probably the first time i've ever seen someone try to pull off a 4pool on a 4 player FFA.
Shambles said:
One of the biggest balance problems in the game is how powerful MMM are even if your opponent does something to "counter" the strategy. Essentially, Terrans end up countering the opponent's counter, while still sticking to MMM ball as the base of their strategy against Zerg and Protoss. Ghosts against shields and High Templar, some Vikings against Collosi, a heavier marine mix against mutalisks, Ravens against DTs, Vikings or extra marines against Void Rays, etc.
Likewise, Protoss warpgates essentially assure that T1/1.5 units will be the vast basis of any P army.
The only race that consistently gets T2 units en masse are Zerg, due to Hydras and Mutalisks being generally awesome and post-buff Infestors are likely the best caster units in the game. I'd like to see things changed for T and P so they get more types of units (basically, give MM and ZSS some slight nerfs while making their T2 units better or buildings slightly cheaper.
Between races, the game is pretty much balanced (with the slight issues of superfast Reaper rushes against Protoss), but too few units get used in every single match.
watervengeance
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Yaweee said:
I play Protoss and am current in the Bronze league. Fast expanding worked really well for me when I started playing, because a lot of players just teched on one base, which is easily countered with a large enough army produced from two bases.
As a result, I climbed up the ladder and now these players are much smarter as they push out extremely early. I like skipping the first zealot and going for the stalker behind a wall, but that doesn't seem to be very effective against mass zealots or something. It's not good to develop these habits early on. :lol
I need to work on apply early pressure and knowing when to stop producing units to tech up or expand.
StrikerObi
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Downloaded the Mac beta the other day, got it running just fine with all the gfx settings on low/off (my two year old MacBook just makes the cut for specs). Played a game on the novice setting, had a decent base going, had a few skirmishes (planetary fortress cannon saved my ass) and the dude quit. Out of nowhere too, the post game stats showed us as pretty evenly matched in resources and unit and stuff, he just quit in the middle of nothing. I had stopped an attack on my base but it was like five minutes prior. Just poof, gone.
So yeah, it feels exactly like StarCraft.
They oughta do like Halo Reach and give you something for sticking it out and losing gracefully. I've noticed a lot fewer drops compared to Halo 3 because in Reach if you quit you don't get the credits.
So yeah, it feels exactly like StarCraft.
They oughta do like Halo Reach and give you something for sticking it out and losing gracefully. I've noticed a lot fewer drops compared to Halo 3 because in Reach if you quit you don't get the credits.
StrikerObi said:
What does it mean to "lose gracefully"? Strategy games aren't first-person shooters, and there's no meaningful stat other than winning or losing. If a player genuinely thinks he's boned (or has to go), then quitting saves both him and his opponent time. The genre has enough problems with people hiding shit to draw out the game for 15+ more minutes.
So what are the options for zerg scouting after terran have walled in? I just played a match where a guy hit me with 3 cloaked banshees like 6 minutes into the match. I had nothing for anti air, I was still going roaches and lings, my hydra den was on it's way up, but it wasn't in time to defense against this. Had I have known he had 2 starports, I would rushed anti air, but that's the dilemma, how can I find that out?
I typically scout with a drone in the beginning or i'll send an overlord over to his base to hang out. However, once he has a marine or two, my overlord or drone won't be able to stick around and by that time, he's usually walled in, so I have no way of knowing what he's doing.
Maybe this is my fault, and I should have some anti air solution by 6 minutes. I could make some spore AA towers (sorry I forgot their name) but if the opponent isn't going air early then I just wasted a decent amount of resources that are probably needed to hold off his ground army.
I typically scout with a drone in the beginning or i'll send an overlord over to his base to hang out. However, once he has a marine or two, my overlord or drone won't be able to stick around and by that time, he's usually walled in, so I have no way of knowing what he's doing.
Maybe this is my fault, and I should have some anti air solution by 6 minutes. I could make some spore AA towers (sorry I forgot their name) but if the opponent isn't going air early then I just wasted a decent amount of resources that are probably needed to hold off his ground army.
Aesthet1c said:
If takes sacrificing an overlord, it is the price you have to pay. Circle the perimeter of their base to see if they are hiding anything near the edges, then go in for the sacrifice scouting from the angle least-likely to be quickly killed by marines.
Also, don't just give up when they wall in. If it's only backed up by a few marines or marauders, Roaches or Banelings can tear that shit up and you flood in with zerglings. Don't just back down once it is sealed up.
Remember, you can get multiple Queens from a single Hatchery. A group of three or four and decent micro (to heal each other) can do a tremendous job against small Air harass.
Yaweee said:
Thanks man... i'll give that a shot. I'm always afraid to attack their buildings early in the match when they are walled in. I don't want to lose all of my units to the marines behind the supply depots in the process.
Also the queen tip is cool, I actually didn't even know that they could attack air lol..