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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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The WoW expansions have been retail exclusive for a week for so, the same will probably happen here.
It runs decently (dips to ~15-20fps on small 1v1 skirmishes) on a 9400M with everything on low, but it's not something I'd like to play on regularly. If he has a 9400M 15" he should probably run it in Boot Camp since the performance is much better on there. If he has a 9600M, 8600M or 330M he should be in the green for OSX.
Alucrid said:
It runs decently (dips to ~15-20fps on small 1v1 skirmishes) on a 9400M with everything on low, but it's not something I'd like to play on regularly. If he has a 9400M 15" he should probably run it in Boot Camp since the performance is much better on there. If he has a 9600M, 8600M or 330M he should be in the green for OSX.
I don't think so but I could be wrong. As seen above.Calidor said:
Depends on the graphics card in it. If it is new it should be fine (however the mac beta currently is not running as well) does he have bootcamp?Alucrid said:
Also Cathonluck vs Slush going to game 4 now
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124235
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/djwheat
Pai Pai Master
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Soooo tips for scouting with zerg? My friend only plays Toss and I like to play Zerg pretty often, but I have a lot of trouble getting any information out of my opponents without sacrificing a ton of Overlords. And he's way slow about observers. Regardless of how I think the match is going to go, should I just constantly be sending in Zerglings to harass so I can get a look at the enemy bases? Or is that not cost-effective?
MisterAnderson
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Pai Pai Master said:
I almost always upgrade Overlord speed. Position them at key positions on the map like at all the expansions and such so you can catch them when they expand. Also generate creep so Command Centers cant land and Toss can't build on it.
Also use changelings from Overseers. If there's a wall, sneak your Overseer to the cliff edge of the main base (or wherever you want to go) and cast it in there. You can usually get good info from a changeling before the enemy kills it or it runs out of its timer.
And don't be afraid to sacrifice an overlord to see their tech. It is worth it, but with Overlord speed upgrade you can usually get in and out fast enough.
Terran really don't have an effective counter for mass Hydras and it's my biggest short coming in TvZ as well. Short of getting a fuckoff battlecruiser fleet mass hydras will a-move through anything T can put up. Really your only hope is absolutely Godlike micro with siege tanks.
Ashhong said:
Matchmaking is pretty good for 1v1. 2v2 is probably quite a bit more complicated in determining who it teams together, and who against. Generally, you should be happy to be playing against higher people, as it normally means you'd get more points for a win than you'd lose for a loss (even if it is "even matched", I think it can go +13/-7 for w/l points).
Also here is the replay of Artosis vs Slush in Game 3 where Slush got the lead up over Artosis... and got disqualified?
Thread should open up soon, or a new one will be made.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124298
Thread should open up soon, or a new one will be made.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=124298
JoeMartin said:
Thors got nerfed against hydras (and buffed against almost anything else), but Tanks and and Hellions do pretty good (Hydras are light armor, so they get a huge bonus if they are upgraded. Their range is as long, too.
Hunter Seeker Missiles are strong enough to one-shot hydras.
The problem might be economy. Are they on an expansion when you're not?
Corran Horn
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They regamed and Slush won. Part of the TLI rules were if DCed then regame or autoloss.Hazaro said:
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yay, I just killed a dude online.
granted, the guy built 15 workers over 20 mins, didn't expand and only had one barracks as opposed to 70 workers, 3 gateways, 2 starports, one expansion and other tech tree upgrades including the fleet beacon and all that.
I'm a slightly better noob, yay.
I think I enjoy playing the Protoss the most. It seems the most beginner friendly.
granted, the guy built 15 workers over 20 mins, didn't expand and only had one barracks as opposed to 70 workers, 3 gateways, 2 starports, one expansion and other tech tree upgrades including the fleet beacon and all that.
I'm a slightly better noob, yay.
I think I enjoy playing the Protoss the most. It seems the most beginner friendly.
MisterAnderson
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Hazaro said:
That's really crappy that a game that was clearly won by Artosis was called for a regame and then Slush beat out Artosis and won the tourney. I'd hate to win a tourney based on a bad call like that. He knows he lost.
Anyway, would you be down for trying out that custom map trick in a bit?
I watched the rep. I guess while it was in accordance with rules Artosis was pretty far in the lead when the DC happened (I just watched the rep). Artosis had bases that were mining, almost 3x the gas income, 3-2 hydras vs mutas and corruptors. Slush's last mining expo was goign to get sniped and it would have been gg since Slush had almost no gas left.Corran Horn said:
I guess Artosis is upset since he would have given Slush the win instead of taking it to a regame.
*Yeah I'll be on for a bit.
Corran Horn
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Ya I can totally see what would happen. But rules are rules, Im ...kinda... glad they held them up even against a caliber of player Artosis is...but still it sucks to lose a tourny like that.
Slush should have just gg'ed in chat afterward, but I guess he really wanted that $300 and I would imagine other invitationals would not really want him now.
Slush should have just gg'ed in chat afterward, but I guess he really wanted that $300 and I would imagine other invitationals would not really want him now.
ChronicleX
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Hazaro said:
After reading that topic they really need to get a new ref, that one is a moron. Artosis won that fair and square. Slush is a prick.
Doing a stream of the two best Australian players: Moonglade and Pinder
http://www.livestream.com/7threal
Gogo watch!
http://www.livestream.com/7threal
Gogo watch!
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
this you casting? ChoppyPaz said:
Not sure if anybody is watching now but we will continue to stream glade vs pinder until they are done playing, please provide more feedback if you are watching (the choppy stuff helped we are looking into it now).
Basically this is a trial run so we can cast actual aus tournaments in future
Basically this is a trial run so we can cast actual aus tournaments in future
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Seems all good, just fix the choppyness and yall should be fine. I cannot hear the 2nd person talking just fyi. I hear one and can faintly barely hear another.Paz said:Not sure if anybody is watching now but we will continue to stream glade vs pinder until they are done playing, please provide more feedback if you are watching (the choppy stuff helped we are looking into it now).
Basically this is a trial run so we can cast actual aus tournaments in future
This current game is much better fyi fpswise.
Also turn down SC2 volume some, during the battles its hard to hear your voice.
Corran Horn
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type "/r " to reply to last person who talked to youDatwheezy said:
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skipped out of the practice matches (too slow!) and went on to kick ass in my first placement match.
I swarmed in on some poor Terran's base (and just starting first expansion) with a giant hilarious fleet of a bit of everything. Other beginners don't realise that they need to expand, defend their expansions (turrets, photon cannons, whatever), build more than one offensive unit structure and generally spend all dem resources.
I'm still very much a beginner, but having those basics under my belt I'm able to do relatively well against people in the same boat as me. Even if I'm still not to the point where I can actually plan much beyond "GET LOTS OF RESOURCES, DEFEND THEM, SEND A SCOUT IN, THEN AMASS A GIANT HILARIOUS FLEET/ARMY OF GUYS AND ATTTTTTACK!!!".
The little time I spent with the SC1 campaign earlier this year was useful after all!
Any other beginnerish AusGAF should hit me up for a game.
I swarmed in on some poor Terran's base (and just starting first expansion) with a giant hilarious fleet of a bit of everything. Other beginners don't realise that they need to expand, defend their expansions (turrets, photon cannons, whatever), build more than one offensive unit structure and generally spend all dem resources.
I'm still very much a beginner, but having those basics under my belt I'm able to do relatively well against people in the same boat as me. Even if I'm still not to the point where I can actually plan much beyond "GET LOTS OF RESOURCES, DEFEND THEM, SEND A SCOUT IN, THEN AMASS A GIANT HILARIOUS FLEET/ARMY OF GUYS AND ATTTTTTACK!!!".
The little time I spent with the SC1 campaign earlier this year was useful after all!
Any other beginnerish AusGAF should hit me up for a game.
What's your name rez? Add me, evl.evlcookie
I'm starting to watch more replays though. Compared to them i seem to start out okish but then my mind just explodes and i'm lost trying to figure out wtf i should be doing. Build a pylon, get more probes, build a gateway then um things! That's kinda how i start to fall apart.
Hopefully i will start to remember the structures soon :lol
I'm starting to watch more replays though. Compared to them i seem to start out okish but then my mind just explodes and i'm lost trying to figure out wtf i should be doing. Build a pylon, get more probes, build a gateway then um things! That's kinda how i start to fall apart.
Hopefully i will start to remember the structures soon :lol
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well, yeah, I'm still very much at the stage where I'm only juuust starting to get used to the different hotkeys, form a good idea of a competent build order and generally understand what I should be doing and when. Multitasking between sending units in to attack, producing more and developing my base is something that I think will begin to do naturally over a few more hours of play, but as of right now there's still that basic knowledge barrier I need to build up.Hazaro said:
I need to get rolled a couple of times to actually understand how to better myself. Watching a replay just doesn't work the same at the current level I'm at at the moment. I need to actually experience it. Unfortunately (fortunately?) I've been getting very lucky in my match-ups recently.
Rez.gamesevlcookie said:
I'll add you now. I can relate to where you're at. :lol
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I've been having a lot of luck lately with the Marine-heavy MMM balls with a bit of Thors thrown into the mix. I even played a few games where I rushed as fast as possible to get around 6 Thors and charged the enemy's base which can be quite successful if you have a few SCVs along to repair the Thors. I had never used Thors until the other day, but I have to admit that they are pretty badass units.
Just played 3 of my 5 placement games to see wher ei fit in the ladder/league and I've won all of them so far as Protoss (2vsP and 1vsT)
I'm pretty confident I'm building fast enough and haven't had any problems with any early rushes or anything like that. What I've noticed so far is that it boils down to who can rape the other's base faster as you both go at it, and well gotta say Void Rays > anything I've encountered so far. The DoT increase is just awesome for taking out buildings.
I find a bunch of Zealot's with about 6 VR's and a Carrier usually get the job done. Chuck in a shield probe to reduce dmg against any incoming range and you're good. Also actually focusing targets to kill is a really good advantage since the others just seems to just leave their stuff to auto attack.
Tbh this all seems very noobish but so far it's working. My main problem is that I occasionally forget to build something like a Forge or Cyber which really slows me down and gives the opponent a better chance of beating me.
I've been thinking of ignoring Forge first for Cyber to get Robotics for Immortals but I like my way so far.
I'm pretty confident I'm building fast enough and haven't had any problems with any early rushes or anything like that. What I've noticed so far is that it boils down to who can rape the other's base faster as you both go at it, and well gotta say Void Rays > anything I've encountered so far. The DoT increase is just awesome for taking out buildings.
I find a bunch of Zealot's with about 6 VR's and a Carrier usually get the job done. Chuck in a shield probe to reduce dmg against any incoming range and you're good. Also actually focusing targets to kill is a really good advantage since the others just seems to just leave their stuff to auto attack.
Tbh this all seems very noobish but so far it's working. My main problem is that I occasionally forget to build something like a Forge or Cyber which really slows me down and gives the opponent a better chance of beating me.
I've been thinking of ignoring Forge first for Cyber to get Robotics for Immortals but I like my way so far.
MisterAnderson
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Anyone want to 2v2 ladder or 1v1 vs me? Really bored.
Meteorain said:
Unless you are doing a forge fast expand build, always get the cybernetics core first, imo.
I usually wait till I alreay have 3-4 warpgates and I'm about to start on robo tech. You shouldn't need cannons before then(in my standard heavy warpgate robo build, I like to get gate, cyber, then 2 more gates, then robo and forge at about the same time, then expand as soon as the forge finishes and after I start my first immortal, so I have the immortal and a few cannons to help fortify the expo), and you shouldn't be able to afford any of the upgrades before then if you are building army and workers like you should. If you are planning on going to tech to air units fast, you definitely don't need an early forge.