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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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As Zerg use a couple Queens for early Void Ray pushes with maybe a spore crawler mixed in the mineral back row. They rip through them and you can keep transfusing them for a long time. Once the fight is over, dont forget to transfuse your buildings as well, so they wont have an easy kill. Use your ground army to hit their base if they went all in with Void Rays. Most in lower leagues put everything into early Void Ray pushes and have nothing left to stop your counter push.KnightM7 said:
ChronicleX
Banned
Won said:
Learn 2 Scout :lol
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
longdi said:
I had an epic 27 minute game yesterday that was tons of fun. ZvP on metalopolis. Protoss went 4 gate initially, which I fended off with zergling/baneling. He then went into void ray which I barely beat with hydra/queen. I go into muta harass to expand and buy time while he is going into collossi. I got there just as the collosus was finishing and overran him with baneling/hydra/muta. Throughout the game I was able to keep him pinned and keep his forces from really balling up with repeated zergling/baneling attacks on his front door. By the end of the game I had the creep expanded to his natural just about, so much fun.
BuddhaRockstar
Member
I can't believe I never got in the beta for this. I'd just preorder it, but I'm planning on using the $20 amazon credit from Mario Galaxy 2 and I can't apply it until the game ships. Just seems silly they were giving out keys on facebook while people who had been signed up for the beta for months with a full library of Blizzard games on battle.net were SOL.
And yes I'll take some cheese with my whine.
And yes I'll take some cheese with my whine.
hey guys I picked up this tip from watching psy starcraft, but if you play against zerg as terran it is extremely effective to get a marine or two out there early on to snipe overlords. Most players will not expect this and they generally send their overlords out carelessly to scout. At worst you'll deny them some scouting info, at best you'll cost them 100-200 minerals and supply lock them for a bit. If you do it well, you can put control of the game in your hands early on and steamroll the zerg with a relatively small marauder push.
Xal-Shoota
Member
Kodiak said:
I don't feel like this is anything too new... whenever I'm zerg and I'm playing a terran, I don't even bother sending my lord out, its gonna get its ass capped for sure if you let it wander around longer than 2 minutes, which is probably how long it takes to get somewhere useful anyways
I just mass Overlords now, especially after the Roach nerf. I normally have the larvae and 100m to spare after a couple bases are going. That way I can have a huge highway and not worry about supply lock when people go Overlord hunting. I played against a guy last night, who used his Banshee force to kill every Overlord scattered on the map, very annoying. Early game Overlord hunting can be effective, but if people dont pay attention to their position they deserve to get them killed. People have been Overlord hunting regularly the past few weeks, so I just send them off to the side of the base and then sacrifice them when I have a backup.Kodiak said:
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
NIN90 said:
No way, they're perfect for zealots. In the 27 minute game i mentioned earlier I used banelings to blow up the zealots letting my lings get to the stalkers and sentries.
Castor Krieg
Banned
Can anyone link a good resource on SC2 for Starcraft/RTS noobs? Got a beta invite from a friend, want to research a bit before I start getting owned.
Banelings are only good against Zealots in giant clumps, or as part of a one-base bust rush against a walled-in Protoss. Yes, they get the +damage bonus, but it still takes four full banelings blasts to kill a zealot. So, you need to make sure the banelings damage more than one with each blast.
Against Stalkers, it is even grimmer. No +light bonus, so it takes 8 for a kill, assuming no shields regenerate. They also have larger radii, so damaging multiple is difficult.
Against Stalkers, it is even grimmer. No +light bonus, so it takes 8 for a kill, assuming no shields regenerate. They also have larger radii, so damaging multiple is difficult.
Castor Krieg
Banned
PNstyle said:
Thank you. Kudos for Maria Ozawa.
throwawayname
Member
Yaweee said:
why use banelings vs protoss anyway?
PNstyle said:
Like I said, a Baneling bust off of one base is a prominent example, against players that use their buildings to make a thin choke point.
They can also be decent for quick kills against stray pylons (or pylons that power several buildings on their own), or against mineral lines.
throwawayname
Member
:>>>>Castor Krieg said:
my bad did not read carefullyYaweee said:
Just played a 2v2 of TTvZZ. Went the usual MMM route and ended up getting death bombed from masses of overlords. In retrospect I should have had a few turrents and probably trained up some seige tanks but looking at the replay after all my ally did was build vikings and then battle cruisers at the end of the game when there was nothing but hydra's rolling around. Still have lots to learn.
Is there another good unit composition for Terran except for MMM? At the moment everyone already expects it and goes for Immortals/Hydras without even scouting.
I tried to get rid of the medivac and go for siege tanks instead but this seems to only work against inexperienced players...
I tried to get rid of the medivac and go for siege tanks instead but this seems to only work against inexperienced players...
Are there that many people new to SC to not know GG at the end of the match? Its been the standard common courtesy/show of respect/sportsmanship since I was playing the original starcraft when I was like 10, 10 years later and while a lot of people say it, Im surprised at the amount who dont.
If I lose, I'll say gg. If they don't say it back I'll make em destroy every last building rather then surrendering
If I lose, I'll say gg. If they don't say it back I'll make em destroy every last building rather then surrendering
Procarbine
Forever Platinum
Above posters: Zealots are most always in giant clumps. Baneling micro isn't that difficult, using other units to engage and distract first. Roaches cost slightly more than one baneling, but are countered by stalkers and immortals, and I'm protesting blizzard's nonsense by not building them until they're buffed again. I'd rather take the baneling damage and then let my zerglings/hydras clean up.
It's not exactly fair to say 4 banelings/zealot, and combine baneling burst with fungal spore, well it works out well if you pull it off, even into the later game.
It's not exactly fair to say 4 banelings/zealot, and combine baneling burst with fungal spore, well it works out well if you pull it off, even into the later game.
I never win, and I am still loving it but I do sometimes wish I could find a game where both teams were interested in teching and basebuilding before rushing. watching a number of replays and it seems like there is never an ebb and flow, just one player rushing and ending the match quick.Yoshichan said:
InternHertz
Member
Oh I got a beta licence from Blizzard yesterday, that was quite unexpected. Downloading the files now, I'm a complete SC noob but I'm curious to check the game out
MurkyZebra2417
Member
I really like my fast Mutalisk tactic, won against a Gold and Platinum guy with it just now (me is bronze)
MurkyZebra2417
Member
Will replays do?^^NIN90 said:Post build order pls.
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But keep in mind, i'm new to starcraft and in bronze league (not copper... mistyped in my other post^^) and don't watch many tactic replays because i like to figure them out myself. So fast for me is probably pretty noobish for you guys
You're doing something fundamentally wrong. If you're losing at Copper, odds are 99% it's that your macro is no good. Micro isn't important, scouting isn't important, you don't have to rush, just focus on getting a good build order with good timing, fully harvesting your minerals, expanding, never missing a MULE/Larva/Chronoboost coldown, never queue up any units, and always be spending all your minerals. Just pump out tons of units, attack-move them to the other base, and go back to macroing. You'll win Copper games easily.Yoshichan said:
Hi guys, I recently got the beta.
I've been playing for 2 weeks now. I can tell you from my point of view that there are some game breaking strategies that won't make SC2 GOTY.
I need help GAF, this is my problem:
I'm currently in the copper league with over 70 matches played and it seems every time i play against a terran player they just send all their SCVs to attack and i can't do anything.
I only have three SCVs because one is building a supply depot and he has 4.
We're not stupid GAF, we can all do the math. Everyone knows who comes out on top.
My next problem is with protoss because they don't need a probe working on the buildings while they are being built. That's overpowered.
I think Terran should have the same ability.
This way i can defend against the fast SCV rush.
Rulza the Terran signing out. : - )
I've been playing for 2 weeks now. I can tell you from my point of view that there are some game breaking strategies that won't make SC2 GOTY.
I need help GAF, this is my problem:
I'm currently in the copper league with over 70 matches played and it seems every time i play against a terran player they just send all their SCVs to attack and i can't do anything.
I only have three SCVs because one is building a supply depot and he has 4.
We're not stupid GAF, we can all do the math. Everyone knows who comes out on top.
My next problem is with protoss because they don't need a probe working on the buildings while they are being built. That's overpowered.
I think Terran should have the same ability.
This way i can defend against the fast SCV rush.
Rulza the Terran signing out. : - )
Eaten By A Grue
Member
I am such a bastard now in FFA. I bury banelings outside players' bases so when I am about to get raped to oblivion I rush the attacking player's base with the banelings. Basically a f'you and good luck against the remaining players.