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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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ChronicleX
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F#A#Oo said:OMG....:lol
This is the guy who tries to portray himself as a SC god...?
Less nonsense spewing on GAF ChronicleX...and more practice for you I think...
I swear no-one even reads this forum anymore. Some things are more interesting than playing a noob at SC2 such as Christopher Walken, however I will never say no to a custom.
Pandaman said:
And yet I did not die for yonks even playing that badly. Even I find the games amusing.
ChronicleX said:
Anyone that recommends getting a Roach Warren before Queen has no right to tell anyone how to play.
spazzfish said:
In mirror matches I always go 10 pool with early gas...usually if they see my early gas my opponents revert to a more macro game instead of early rushing me.
13/14 pool is in my opinion is way too late in mirror...and most definatetly you will have to put down spinecrawlers and do a ton of kiting and time-wasting tactics to survive any initial rush.
ChronicleX
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F#A#Oo said:
Anyone who cannot read does not have the right to comment about things people post. Google the word "Situational" kid.
PS - 4-1 Placement Plat. Laggy Zergs are impossible to harass =(
10 pool with early gas means you're at a pretty distinct mineral disadvantage. 10 pool best supports sending the earliest rush possible as well, which is pretty easily countered as Zerg. It is very easy to get some lings up by the time a 10 pool makes it to your base as 13/14 pool, and have a Queen on the way because of your mineral advantage.F#A#Oo said:
yea, but the 10 pool is mostly to counter the extreme early pools the other zerg might pull before it becomes viable to scout. the last thing you want is to scout a 7 pool just after you committed to three drones and cant get the larvae back.Dance In My Blood said:
if you know the other player isn't the type to6 or 7 pool then yea, standard play rules the house.
Dance In My Blood said:
I find if my opponents go 7 or 10 pool they will most definately be going early gas using their first 100 gas either for lair/metabolic boost/roaches. So really there is no mineral disadvantage as they are doing exactly the same. If they don't go early gas then my roaches will be make short work of their lings with no speed.
ZvZ is the only match up I get gas early...it's become pretty much essential I find. Maybe I'm just getting all the players who are aggressive early.
Also if you scout properly you can judge when to make units and drones accordingly...
NIN90 said:
I don't know when I will be able to get on in the next few days and the beta ends Monday no?
Most definately when retail release comes round though!
I dunno. I just haven't seen an effective 6 or 7 pool. 6 lings is just not enough to be a threat early game, and the rare times I've seen it lately it just isn't enough, and I can early push back on them easily. I certainly wouldn't focus a build on the possibility of it.
Even on Steppes, you should have time to at least 12 pool before a 6 pool can reach you.
I haven't timed out that build, but I typically go OL 10, extractor trick to 11 while the OL is building, then 11 pool on steppes, and my lings beat a 6 pool by 15 secs or so. You could definitely squeeze another drone in there if your timings are crisp though.
I haven't timed out that build, but I typically go OL 10, extractor trick to 11 while the OL is building, then 11 pool on steppes, and my lings beat a 6 pool by 15 secs or so. You could definitely squeeze another drone in there if your timings are crisp though.
F#A#Oo said:
Ok, wait, skipping the queen can allow you to get roaches much earlier and put pressure on your opponent. TLO did it successfully a few games back against Protoss and won versus
ChronicleX
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Zen said:
You might want to rephrase that.. unless Idra was Protoss 0_o
Terran Buildings need damn fuel, tech or something..... I am getting sick of hunting down random buildings flying around, especially when I got no air army at the time.
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ChronicleX
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Rez said:
"Please leave a message after the DUUUUUUUUUUUUUDDDDDDDDEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Corran Horn
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My display is 1680x1050. To render in 1080p the aspect ratio gets a little off. I guess I could record the games on my 1080p TV but Im not sure if my PC would be able to handle fraps'ing that.Ashhong said:
MisterAnderson
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Won said:
How do you know this? Did Blizz make a statement somewhere?
The Lamonster
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I loved that video. Do you have a source??Won said:
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Hazaro said:
awesome!Blizzard said:
Procarbine
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Son of Godzilla
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Wait, this game doesn't have chat rooms? The fuck.
So siege tanks have been ending a lot of matches for me in 2v2, what are some good counters for them as Protoss/Zerg? I went phoenixes but suck ass at micro'ing them and they were pretty much ripped to shreds by the marines and hyrdas backing up the tanks I was trying to lift off. Colossi don't seem very good either, even with upgraded lances.
I'm sure part of the key is "don't let your opponent mass up that many" but still, yikes. Any help is appreciated.
I'm sure part of the key is "don't let your opponent mass up that many" but still, yikes. Any help is appreciated.
Tanks can't be everywhere at once. Try to abuse their immobility (flank, drop, harass main, expo) and keep a few broodlords (just 3 or 4) and be careful with them. If they don't have ravens you can suicide roaches into tanks with their burrow and attack when the tanks use up their first volley.
Make sure you attack micro (attack, move, attack, move) otherwise your front line will just die before you can attack.
Nydus worms, warp prisms, immortal spam, hallucinated immortals, etc are all ok vs tank blob.
If they have 20+ tanks you are fucked though as you'll need at least 20 immortals + support to break the tanks alone.
Also if they have a ghost with EMP you are doomed :lol
Make sure you attack micro (attack, move, attack, move) otherwise your front line will just die before you can attack.
Nydus worms, warp prisms, immortal spam, hallucinated immortals, etc are all ok vs tank blob.
If they have 20+ tanks you are fucked though as you'll need at least 20 immortals + support to break the tanks alone.
Also if they have a ghost with EMP you are doomed :lol
mescalineeyes
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anyone up for playing some 1v1 or 2v2s?
both US and EU welcome.
both US and EU welcome.
You'll also need to make extensive use of observers. Charge zealots are good as well as the nerf makes them take 1 more hit to kill from pure tank fire. Plus if they can close the gap the tanks will fire on themselves/their support.
Really you want to catch terran out of position if possible, or if they are turtling off 2 base just expo and make carriers :lol
e.g. Terran is in middle, flank his expo (check with observer first to get high ground sight, maybe warp prism on high ground) make the terran pull back (unseige), then get out of there before he sieges up. Expo.
Really you want to catch terran out of position if possible, or if they are turtling off 2 base just expo and make carriers :lol
e.g. Terran is in middle, flank his expo (check with observer first to get high ground sight, maybe warp prism on high ground) make the terran pull back (unseige), then get out of there before he sieges up. Expo.
ChronicleX
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LaneDS said:
Apart from mass immortals (which gets countered by EMP) your best bet is getting phoenix and using their grav beam to disable them like you have been doing. Aside from that DT's work well if you make sure there is no detection, send 1 or 2 to their bases so scan's are wasted before you send some at the mech.
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Pro WoW players playing SC2 can't work out very well.. I mean, they are completely different skillsets... I'll pass.Zertez said:
Procarbine
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-COOLIO- said:
Research burrow/tunneling claws for maximum hilarity
There is no easy counter to tanks. (Low marine count? Phoenix. No ghosts? Immortals. No detection? DT's in main, expo, and frontline. etc,etc.)ChronicleX said:
Really you just have to play extremely well and use what you have at the moment. Ghosts also counter phoenixes and marine,ghost,turrets demolish any amount of phoenix that would make a difference.
If you open 1gate core, stargate and phoenix harass from the start you can limit tank numbers and force a defensive opening for Terran but at that point you are limiting play style (and it only works on some maps).
Since the Terran could just be going bio instead and roll you before you have storm (or limit you to 1 base and expo)