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[Cru Jones]

So are all the problems gone (can you see how many games are currently being played) or was it a fluke you got in

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Still says 0 games worldwide and ~600k players online.

But I've been playing fine for hours.

 

[Won]

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but can someone share their thoughts on why T should be nerfed?

There must be specifics you are thinking of?

I'm not even close to the top of the Silver division, so yeah, I'm not going to pretend like I know too much.. But I would like to learn more! In the Diamond/Plat replays I've seen, I haven't seen any blatantly obvious overpowered Terran strats.

Zealots were crazy strong as an early-game force, especially against a low-level player like me. But a 5 second delay is ridiculous, even I know that :lol

Because they have guns!

 

[hobart]

I know it's only for 2 weeks but... we gonna have a thread of names/codes?

I'm back, baby!

hobart - 878

 

[Deleted member 30609]

school me, it's the only way I'll learn

Rez.games

Oh wait, region locking. Huh.

 

[Yoshichan]

school me, it's the only way I'll learn

Rez.games

Oh wait, region locking. Huh.

Australia aye?

 

[joelseph]

Kotick hates Protoss.

 

[Sarye]

I'm really sad about the protoss nerf. I've been struggling with protoss pre-patch even with a heavy warpgate army and this just makes it so much worse =(

 

[Yoshichan]

How did they nerf toss?

 

[Yaweee]

How did they nerf toss?

Zealot build time, paired with a Reaper build time nerf.

Basically, two of the races had their super-fast-rushes nerfed. We'll see where this leaves zergling rushes.

 

[Yoshichan]

Zealot build time, paired with a Reaper build time nerf.

Basically, two of the races had their super-fast-rushes nerfed. We'll see where this leaves zergling rushes.

Ok... not too bad, I guess. As long as I can get one zealot to stand in the way next to gateway and pylon for rushes.

 

[Sarye]

How did they nerf toss?

5 second longer warp time of zealots

edit: beaten

fake edit: it's just annoying because I find that early zealot pressure helps with the survivability of toss.

 

[Yaweee]

Ok... not too bad, I guess. As long as I can get one zealot to stand in the way next to gateway and pylon for rushes.

Yeah, I'm a bit pensive about what those extra five seconds are going to do to 6 pooling. I suspect it will be much easier to slip a first wave in past a choke.

Maybe we'll see more early scouting, and perhaps FULL wall offs by Protoss? (more so than the double Gateways being built beyond the natural expansions in some maps)

 

[Sarye]

Yeah, I'm a bit pensive about what those extra five seconds are going to do to 6 pooling. I suspect it will be much easier to slip a first wave in past a choke.

Maybe we'll see more early scouting, and perhaps FULL wall offs by Protoss? (more so than the double Gateways being built beyond the natural expansions in some maps)

I've actually seen full wall offs already on maps with destructible rocks so this may be more viable if toss scouts an early rush. Maybe warp in a building and canceling it once you have a unit to block? I don't know.

 

[FoxSpirit]

6 pooling is such a joke. 6 Lings vs 1 Zeal+drones=dead. Sure a few drones will die but economy wise you'll be far ahead. In case of emergency (Steppes), change Gate to 13 or 12 if you feel it's too heavy on your timing. Those 5 seconds are a bit nasty though but you gotta boost your first Zeal anyway. And don't get your one Zeal surrounded.

Try it.

 

[ChronicleX]

Sorry if this has been discussed already, but can someone share their thoughts on why T should be nerfed?

There must be specifics you are thinking of?

I'm not even close to the top of the Silver division, so yeah, I'm not going to pretend like I know too much.. But I would like to learn more! In the Diamond/Plat replays I've seen, I haven't seen any blatantly obvious overpowered Terran strats.

Zealots were crazy strong as an early-game force, especially against a low-level player like me. But a 5 second delay is ridiculous, even I know that :lol

Flexability of their tech and units. They have the best units (something that should be a protoss feature) and the most flex. Terran does not have to dedicate itself to a single tech route, it can freely switch between producing any tech it wants apart from ghost/battlecruiser. Also EMP is overpowered vs protoss armies as it requires no research (unlike psi storm) with a larger AoE and is lower on the tech tree among other things. Throw in that it is impossible to punish a terran that does not get detection due to Scan having a massive aoe and laster forever, the ability to instantly recover ECO should it be destroyed by mass mules and you have one overpowered race compared to the other 2. Apart from EMP vs protoss their units are fine, its just everything else they can do.

They are not unstoppable but in the hands of Koreans they will be on release. In our hands their superior strength is not that noticeable.

Spoiler

Plus Blizzard will not want to mess with Terran stats too much atm since it will mess with the SP campaign.

Yeah, I'm a bit pensive about what those extra five seconds are going to do to 6 pooling. I suspect it will be much easier to slip a first wave in past a choke.

That is my main worry. It already is pretty tight timing wise.

 

[MrCompletely]

Spoiler

Plus Blizzard will not want to mess with Terran stats too much atm since it will mess with the SP campaign.

Blizzard already said campaign and mp unit stats are not tied together for Terrans. MP balancing has nothing to do with campaign.

 

[ChronicleX]

Blizzard already said campaign and mp unit stats are not tied together for Terrans. MP balancing has nothing to do with campaign.

If they change it too much then what people learn from the SP will not transfer over to MP. IE If you learn in SP that a Maruder beats a Roach but then at some point the MP changes to Roachs beat Maruder's then it will cause people to be confused, something blizzard will want to avoid.

 

[Yaweee]

If they change it too much then what people learn from the SP will not transfer over to MP. IE If you learn in SP that a Maruder beats a Roach but then at some point the MP changes to Roachs beat Maruder's then it will cause people to be confused, something blizzard will want to avoid.

Nope. Not a concern for Blizzard at all, and they've said as much. There's shittons of units and upgrades in SP that aren't in multiplayer, so any semblance of balance or parity between the two is fundamentally impossible.

 

[Terproerg]

wish i could get out of placement matchs :S.

 

[Sykra]

If they change it too much then what people learn from the SP will not transfer over to MP. IE If you learn in SP that a Maruder beats a Roach but then at some point the MP changes to Roachs beat Maruder's then it will cause people to be confused, something blizzard will want to avoid.

Campaign is not intended to make people get used to balance, thats what AI scenarions and practice leagues are for.

 

[ahoyhoy]

Nope. Not a concern for Blizzard at all, and they've said as much. There's shittons of units and upgrades in SP that aren't in multiplayer, so any semblance of balance or parity between the two is fundamentally impossible.

Indeed. So long as the units behave and fufill essentially the same roles there shouldn't be any issue. First time players can finish the campaign to learn the basics of the game layout, play a handful of vs. AI matches to get a feel for how the multiplayer is different, and then get into their placement matches, where, even if they fuck up initially, their skills will improve and help them advance.

 

[scoobs]

Is it just me or do the graphics look a bit better? Looks less aliased or smoother or something idk.. i could just be crazy. Played a quick 1v1 vs hard AI and smoked it... I really love infestors now more than ever

 

[XHPrime]

Is it just me or do the graphics look a bit better? Looks less aliased or smoother or something idk.. i could just be crazy. Played a quick 1v1 vs hard AI and smoked it... I really love infestors now more than ever

I thought the same thing but I think in my case it was being used to replays on youtube for a month so I forgot how good it looks in game.

 

[ahoyhoy]

Ugh, still can't get into any sort of game, player or AI alike. Damn.

 

[Calantus]

i just want to play against some ai since i'm rusty, but can't even do that.

 

[traveler]

So was there ever a consensus on how to fix the "Out of prepaid time" issue?

 

[TOAO_Cyrus]

If anyone else is having trouble finding games try this

http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/cn8w5/fix_for_join_issue_that_just_keeps_searching/

worked great for me

 

[Tacitus_]

They are not unstoppable but in the hands of Koreans they will be on release. In our hands their superior strength is not that noticeable.

Spoiler

Plus Blizzard will not want to mess with Terran stats too much atm since it will mess with the SP campaign.

Strange, Koreans seemed to be using Zerg (and winning) at the expense of Terrans during the beta.

 

[Son of Godzilla]

Man, I came so close to getting the Yamoto achievement. That shit is hard!

 

[Calantus]

just finished a game with medium AI, it's definitely better than very easy but still not hard. I'm rusty too, so it shouldn't even be hard for bronze players, gonna go up to hard next.

 

[ChronicleX]

Strange, Koreans seemed to be using Zerg (and winning) at the expense of Terrans during the beta.

Its a known fact Zerg is the Koreans fav race from SCI and Terran is their least favourite. Give it time, they wont switch straight away.

 

[K.Sabot]

So this is weird and frustrating. My account got hacked, but it can't have been a keylogger because my steam and other paid services are perfectly fine. Should I just reclaim my account and try again, or go the psycho route and completely wipe my computer just to make sure?

 

[LowParry]

Well, I managed to get into a game with two new people playing on my team. Carriers galore on my team. And we won.........somehow. :lol

 

[ultron87]

Well, I managed to get into a game with two new people playing on my team. Carriers galore on my team. And we won.........somehow. :lol

Have new invites actually been sent out to increase numbers? Or are they just leaving it at the current number since anybody that wanted in really should've been able to manage to get a code.

 

[ChronicleX]

So this is weird and frustrating. My account got hacked, but it can't have been a keylogger because my steam and other paid services are perfectly fine. Should I just reclaim my account and try again, or go the psycho route and completely wipe my computer just to make sure?

Malewarebyes / SuperAntiSpyware. If you want to go the smart psyco route and are on windows 7 you could install a copy of windows 7 to a flash drive, then run that to scan your current installation without removing it.

IMO if its not a keylogger you most likely were dumb enough to try to login to your account on a fake bnet site and it was stolen that way.

 

[FoxSpirit]

Its a known fact Zerg is the Koreans fav race from SCI and Terran is their least favourite. Give it time, they wont switch straight away.

Well, according to TLO the Zerg are actually slightly favoured ZvT. But then again it's TLO and he plays crazy macro in that matchup

 

[Calantus]

lol, the hard AI gets up to 500 APM after getting it's army destroyed

 

[Pandaman]

panda.580

 

[LowParry]

Have new invites actually been sent out to increase numbers? Or are they just leaving it at the current number since anybody that wanted in really should've been able to manage to get a code.

Probably the same people who've played before. Guess the two I played with hardly played at all. Their micromanagement sucked. And if were attacked early on, we'd of died easily since they didn't do any defense.

 

[Pandaman]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

that feels so right.

 

[Yaweee]

Malewarebyes / SuperAntiSpyware. If you want to go the smart psyco route and are on windows 7 you could install a copy of windows 7 to a flash drive, then run that to scan your current installation without removing it.

IMO if its not a keylogger you most likely were dumb enough to try to login to your account on a fake bnet site and it was stolen that way.

Or the same email and password were used for a different site. I think that is what gets most people-- default passwords for accounts at various places.

 

[Mihku]

Still no news when we Europeans can join in on the fun? Was hoping for some SC2 action this evening, but battle.net servers still down here, and can't find any update about it on the official beta forum.

 

[chris-013]

The EU server is still down ?

 

[Vangu Vegro]

*checks*

Yes.

 

[MisterAnderson]

OMG BETA BACK?

Edit: Rally point from Nydus is no longer attack move???

 

[Kinyou]

I want mah EU beta :'(

 

[Pandaman]

OMG BETA BACK?

Edit: Rally point from Nydus is no longer attack move???

nope and it sucks ;_;

but nydus's are awesome enough to get over that

 

[Pai Pai Master]

OMG BETA BACK?

Edit: Rally point from Nydus is no longer attack move???

Rally point from anything is no longer attack-move.

 

[Sarye]

Rally point from anything is no longer attack-move.

I wonder.. if you rally to an enemy unit, will it attack? hmmm...