infinityBCRT
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YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAH!!! (CSI style)
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will be playing a lot of this on the weekend
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StarCraft 2 Beta |OT| (Beta Now Reopen, GL HF)
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Caesar III
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thxDynoro said:
infinityBCRT
Member
Does active users go by the amount of people online? If there were 2000 active users there are probably 10000 people with keys... and maybe more if there were people who got keys who don't care about SC (WoW players).Minsc said:
Fragamemnon
Member
Just an aside, once we get some decent maps and not these piles of digital garbage Blizzard calls maps, I'm really confident that at least Terran vs. Terran will be the kind of lovably campy, tank-and-turret line fun that we've all come to love from BW. Been watching some reps from BRAT_OK over breakfast and he's got a great one fac siege expand that works beautifully.
Speaking of those replays (can be found in the TL replays thread), I can (after watching a few) safely say that the Europeans are (so far, and IMO) way ahead of the US in terms of metagame development.
Speaking of those replays (can be found in the TL replays thread), I can (after watching a few) safely say that the Europeans are (so far, and IMO) way ahead of the US in terms of metagame development.
furrygiblets
Member
Sigh
I tend to turtle when I play Starcraft and well Warcraft as well. I'm a fan of base building what can I say. I enjoy figuring out ways to defend it and finding ways to take down someone else heavily defend base. Though not so much that I can't send out strikes to take locations. I just hate being rushed during the few times I actually do play online. Is this viable in Starcraft 2 or does the game design lend itself toward other tactics more?
Fragamemnon
Member
Effect said:
I don't think this is a viable way to play the game unless you work it out in agreement with your opponents before the match.
Terran (moreso than the other races) offers you a set of "timing pushes" where you might turtle down on one base or two and hit the enemy really hard right as a key piece of your tech completes or right before the enemy is able to start producing (in large quantities) key quantities of their army.
I think AoE3 (because of the popularity of NR15 games) or, to a much lesser extent now, Supreme Commander are a bit better games for pure turtling.
Fragamemnon
Member
Really small patch-they just put the Terran upgrade times to be equal to the Protoss or Zerg equivalent times. Dunno about the Zealot shield change, they die really fast anyway to EMP+marines.
Minsc
Gold Member
Fragamemnon said:
What about if you were playing on maps where it's inaccessible to scout to the other players' bases, either because of a ton of rocks blocking access or because players are on separate islands (which later connect via surfacing terrain), would you be able to get around such roadblocks easily enough (teleport randomly, or flying units in force fast) to discourage turtling?
Fragamemnon said:
Gotcha. I guess that's a trust issue as well. I remember some games where the description was no rushing. Only to be rushed. Ugh. Learned quickly not to believe those anymore.
I have been meaning to play Supreme Commander. I have it but at the time I didn't really have the computer to fully play it. Thinking of going back to it now that I do. I do have AoE3 though and really enjoy that.
BurritoBushido
Member
HOWS THAT BETA GOIN, FELLAS?
The Lamonster
Member
it's fun.BurritoBushido said:
The Lamonster
Member
Lothars said:
That's the spirit! Even if you don't get in, we know the beta is out and release is imminent. We'll all get to play together in just a few months.oxrock said:
Interfectum
Member
How long is this beta supposed to last? Still haven't got a beta key. :\
Minsc
Gold Member
I hope soon Blizzard lets people pre-order the game at full price through their store (or even a small premium), and get a beta key by doing so.
They're missing out on a ton of interest off all the money from people who'd pay in full to have a beta key now and the full game later.
They're missing out on a ton of interest off all the money from people who'd pay in full to have a beta key now and the full game later.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
Thanks for making me feel like a prick now .
.Fragamemnon
Member
Definitely going to hit 5000+ online tonight. Was just under 4k about an hour ago.
edit: All terrans need to check out BRAT_OK 's replay pack. Especially if you played T in SC1:
http://www.goodgame.ru/demos.php?ocd=view&id=22088
His TvT style is very effective and plays a LOT like TvT (tanks, turrets and goliaths become tanks, turrets and vikings) in SC1.
I'm not so much of a fan of his style of ZvT and PvT, outside of his use of siege tanks in ZvT, which is exceptional. It wins him games, for sure, but the late stim upgrade in both matches does not sit well with me.
If you play Zerg or Protoss, there are some reps in there with WhiteRa/Mondragon/DIAMAGA/Infernal and other Euro SC1 luminaries.
edit: All terrans need to check out BRAT_OK 's replay pack. Especially if you played T in SC1:
http://www.goodgame.ru/demos.php?ocd=view&id=22088
His TvT style is very effective and plays a LOT like TvT (tanks, turrets and goliaths become tanks, turrets and vikings) in SC1.
I'm not so much of a fan of his style of ZvT and PvT, outside of his use of siege tanks in ZvT, which is exceptional. It wins him games, for sure, but the late stim upgrade in both matches does not sit well with me.
If you play Zerg or Protoss, there are some reps in there with WhiteRa/Mondragon/DIAMAGA/Infernal and other Euro SC1 luminaries.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
So I posted a replay with my own commentary on YouTube a few days ago on a 2v2 I had.
Some guy posts this in the comemnts
"Tip to keep your army going and give you the edge is burrowing your units when they are low on health, especially the Roach who regenerates in mere seconds."
Which is what I did. So I responded - Yep I was doing that in the game.
I even attacked one of the guys in the game with burrowed roaches.
He the replies back with this (But deletes it.. Its like he never watched the video and thought I was zerg one day and terran another)
"Uh-huh, cuz mass marines were the best you could do, right?
Uh, vikings are the perfect counter for the air he was using. You could have had a significantly smaller force than his and still won.
And Helions with their upgrade own zerglings.
And with a small marine force to support both, you would have crushed him unless he changed his strategy.
So yeah, thanks for trying. Just don't blame Blizzard for your short-comings."
What? :lol :lol
Unfortunately he deleted that comment but no idea where he was going with that.
Some guy posts this in the comemnts
"Tip to keep your army going and give you the edge is burrowing your units when they are low on health, especially the Roach who regenerates in mere seconds."
Which is what I did. So I responded - Yep I was doing that in the game.
I even attacked one of the guys in the game with burrowed roaches.
He the replies back with this (But deletes it.. Its like he never watched the video and thought I was zerg one day and terran another)
"Uh-huh, cuz mass marines were the best you could do, right?
Uh, vikings are the perfect counter for the air he was using. You could have had a significantly smaller force than his and still won.
And Helions with their upgrade own zerglings.
And with a small marine force to support both, you would have crushed him unless he changed his strategy.
So yeah, thanks for trying. Just don't blame Blizzard for your short-comings."
What? :lol :lol
Unfortunately he deleted that comment but no idea where he was going with that.
Fragamemnon
Member
You guys sure love your 2v2. :lol
Still having a hard time working in the Raven into my play outside of the whole 'mobile detector' aspect. The hunter-seeker missiles just feel like a gimmick and the only ability I usually wind up using is point defense drone.
Still having a hard time working in the Raven into my play outside of the whole 'mobile detector' aspect. The hunter-seeker missiles just feel like a gimmick and the only ability I usually wind up using is point defense drone.
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Nothing wrong with 2v2.
Maybe I'm reading it the wrong way - But I've noticed a few people claiming 2v2 is pointless.. I play games to entertain myself and playing with a friend and creating a strategy for 2 different armies is something I find exciting.
I just really hate the mentality where people brush 2v2 or any form of team play off as being pointless..
Not saying that you are saying that but I've just read comments that seem to aim toward that from other users and it sounds almost snobby :\
Maybe I'm reading it the wrong way - But I've noticed a few people claiming 2v2 is pointless.. I play games to entertain myself and playing with a friend and creating a strategy for 2 different armies is something I find exciting.
I just really hate the mentality where people brush 2v2 or any form of team play off as being pointless..
Not saying that you are saying that but I've just read comments that seem to aim toward that from other users and it sounds almost snobby :\
Freakinchair
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nilbog21 said:
Seriously. Opted-in since day 1 with 6 blizzard products and medium to high-end computer specs and still no invite.
Xal-Shoota
Member
I feel you man....I took a gamble and opted in on the mac side, praying that they will get the mac version up and running soon and just give almost everyone with a mac a key. But now im wondering if that was a good choice...celebi23 said:
Minsc
Gold Member
Phloxy said:
You could just leave both versions installed in separate folders... what's wrong with playing against real AI though?
Edit: Actually that probably won't work since they'd share resources. If you made a separate Windows account you should probably be able to do it though, install the beta for battle.net in one login, and use the ai in another login.
Mengy
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Phloxy said:
Im not in the beta yet, but from what I understand isnt the AI hack just replacing one file in the directory? Id think it would be as simple as just toggling that file back and forth between the Blizzard AI and the user created AI. This would of course be for offline only, to go back online Im sure you would need to go back to the Blizzard AI file first.
I havent gotten an email invite yet, but I cant wait to get home and check my Bnet account to see if I got in for this wave. The game is downloaded and just waiting for a key to play. Dont make me cry tonight Blizzard!
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Yea again no invite. Ive never played starcraft before so i would be a good pick
Minsc
Gold Member
Effect said:
I've never heard of any one releasing a Beta to test AI... the AI will never be as good as people without cheating, even Skirmish AI, which is probably the best AI made in an RTS game cheats like no tomorrow. The tactics are top notch it uses, but without a 50% bonus to resources or whatever it gets, it would never stand a chance.