OrangeYouGlad
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He meant the Brony. It's a BDSM club downtown.
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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT4| Everyone Else Would Beat Catspajamas
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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He meant the Brony. It's a BDSM club downtown.
brunswick club is my guess.
Change of plans we goin to the brass rail instead after victory cafe.
OrangeYouGlad
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Ugh, way to bring back bad memories.
Not by choice. Work is here and I hate commuting. I used to commute from Richmond Hill to Mississauga and have to be up for 5 to be at work for 9. Not cool.
some terran did a 1base 2port banshee attack with 2 vikings to scan+snipe obs, did a decent number on me but luckily i had a few paranoia cannons in my base so i survived and rolled him with better economy
it almost worked, after sniping my obs he focused down my robo and if i didn't already have a cannon up at each mineral i would've been dead
it almost worked, after sniping my obs he focused down my robo and if i didn't already have a cannon up at each mineral i would've been dead
Good to hear. It's a nice strategy for getting into a straight up macro game vs a Zerg and adaptable enough to go up against to both roach/hydra and ling/muta compositions. Here's the TL thread I got it from if you want to do more reading and see some replays of people better than I.
I did lose to it once because teh guy went heavy roach hydra and I didn't have enough storms
should i mix in a colossus or two?
Do you mean to defend your third, or when you're trying to take a fourth? No way to get both Collosai and Templar in time for the third defense. The old Voidray-Colossus-stalker is stronger vs roach hydra compositions and will help defend your third and fourth better than going templar will and is easier to control, but will ultimately be weaker after that period. I personally don't build any Colossai and just try and get off good storms on the hydras. One of the weakest periods of time for the strategy is defending the third so if that's where you're dieing it's kind of normal to have a hard time then.
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One unit counters Ultras, Broods, Infestors, and to a lesser extent banelings, is balanced? Wat.
dont forget mutas.
PhoenixDark
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lol ZvT balanced. One unit counters everything, making zerg tier 3 units a joke. Hell Ghosts are rather ridiculous in PvT as well
so much of Terran needs to be completely overhauled imo. No more little changes here or there, it's clear the race has been overpowered since the game came out
so much of Terran needs to be completely overhauled imo. No more little changes here or there, it's clear the race has been overpowered since the game came out
That's because, except for three or so players, the Zerg players are better.
flying detector that cost 200 gas and have 60 second building time
LOL
'even' would be a range from 45-55, not 50-60 in terrans favour.
even would be zerg favoured over terran atleast once in the entire history of the game.
only 200 gas? how horrible. science vessels cost 225 gas and built in 80 seconds. stay free.
now tell us how hard it is to swap addons.
Terran typically has excess gas if going mostly bio, and the Raven has other uses too, PDD blocks muta and hydra shots, HSM is great for clumped anything, even if all you do is zone out mutas by making them fly away for a while, and autoturrets are like instant photon cannons
But right out of the gate they're mostly useless. I think the whole idea of producing casters that can't do jack for a while (including the HT in this) is just a stupid idea for the game. StarCraft II doesn't make you throw away units, but they're expendable--having you babysit units until they can do something useful isn't that fun (especially with Ravens, as they require a hell of a lot of upgrading.)
Ravens are so awesome; I can't believe Terrans still hardly build them. Reminds me of how Pro Terrans hardly even built ghosts for like the first 6ish months of the game.
I like it personally, it's adds a strategic timing element to using casters that you wouldn't get if the same/similar role was filled by a non energy unit.
I like it personally, it's adds a strategic timing element to using casters that you wouldn't get if the same/similar role was filled by a non energy unit.
Issue with ravens in pvt is there slow movement speed and size make them vulnerable to ht. However they can be good for PDD. Issue with pdd in the current meta game is most toss compositions are extremely stalker lite so they dont make a huge difference.
Honestly its not something I would be able to utilize effectively. I already have difficulty in hitting the toss with emp, have the vikings target firing and position army when engaging in battle. Having to add the ravens to that would not be pretty.
Ravens have an energy upgrade just like ghosts do they not?
Then use HSM instead to zone out protoss units, if you launch 3 HSM's at a protoss death ball, good luck trying to figure out which unit was targeted and peel it off, the whole death ball will retreat allowing your marauders to chase them down for free kills.
Yep. But even at high-level play I rarely see pros make more than one or two. Fully-upgraded Ravens in squads can tear up a matchup, but their disadvantages mean that you rarely see more than one or two made--and thus the upgrade is never worth it. They're not Infestors.
if the toss player cant feedback those ravens than you already won the game. considering the amount of damage SM does, emp is better against toss for doing damage.
Corran Horn
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Alot of Zergs QQing here? Ahhh gaf cycle.
Ravens cost only slightly more than infestors and Terran typically has more gas to spare than Zerg so it shouldn't be a big deal.
Why not use ravens and slowly build up their numbers by accumulating them over time like infestors? They're great at blocking corruptor and mutalisk shots, auto turret harass on minerals isn't bad, and HSM is really good on clumped Zerg units. At the very least you force their units to run away from you.
Well what else are we going to talk about with HotS delayed to fucking 2013.
more like terrans QQing.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Well, I think it's legitimate complaining. Terrans should be able to spin their mouse wheel a few times and kill an entire Zerg army, obviously.
I think they already did enough to bring them back down to a reasonable level--especially the range decrease. They're still gangbusters, but they aren't unstoppable in groups.
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Irradiating death balls in SC2, oh my.
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The Everyman
infestors counter everything
Corran Horn
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Nerf marines? Nooooo
Irradiate is sick nerd baller status
D Matrix enables sweet ass plays and special tictacs
Old EMP was god tier
BRING BACK THE VESSEL
I support this as long as Ghosts lose EMP.
I honestly think Viper+infestor is going to be more interesting.
Corran Horn
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So is there still interest in a NA vs EU tourny? and if so....who is the euro team?
Ghosts can lose EMP idgaf
Viper was a fucking joke at Blizzcon. 2x2 area 8? second dark swarm? Give me a fucking break. The grab is sort of nice but was at 125 energy. It's a giant ass gas sink only for late game utility that I can see unless they buff it. Late game Z already has Zerg Air + Infestor.
Infinity mini roaches from the burrow unit is cute, but 1a Ball syndrome doesn't give two shits about tiny squads of units moving around. I think there's potential with it though if used correctly.
But basically BW is perfect and everyone should play SC2:BW.