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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT4| Everyone Else Would Beat Catspajamas
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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last gstl was fucking shit, im leaning more toward the 100 $ for all gsls but it won't include the side tournaments :/
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
lol forgg has The Pretender song going on in the background.
<3
<3
AdventureRacing
Member
Watching forgg's banshee control brings back fond memories of the bestfou.
The side tournaments are garbage and usually get casted by the B team. No way am i paying to listen to moletrap cast a bunch of games where the players don't really give a shit.
The only tournament in Korea where the players really tried besides the main GSL is the team league and they have all but ruined that. I'll just stick to the main tournament for now.
The side tournaments are garbage and usually get casted by the B team. No way am i paying to listen to moletrap cast a bunch of games where the players don't really give a shit.
The only tournament in Korea where the players really tried besides the main GSL is the team league and they have all but ruined that. I'll just stick to the main tournament for now.
TheThunder
Member
Why go for the $100 option instead of the $70 one ?
Sure dual stream of round 1 code A is good and all, but if there is actually a good game on the secondary stream you can watch on vods later.
Also if you go the $70 route you only save 1 whooping dollar on each season, so I guess what I'm trying to say is, I'll be buying tickets on season to season bases just like the past year since they missed the mark completely with their yearly plans.
On the team league, I really like the king of the hill format, proleauge format is not as exciting.
forgg needs to play more than the same three songs AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
https://twitter.com/#!/mrory/status/145419751106166785
AND THEN HE PUT PARTY ROCK ON AGAIN
https://twitter.com/#!/mrory/status/145419751106166785
https://twitter.com/#!/ogsfin/status/145420652474667008Mairu said:Thanks for stream!! Listen to more songs!!
forgg said:@mrory ok
AND THEN HE PUT PARTY ROCK ON AGAIN
AdventureRacing
Member
I like that ForGG really just sticks to the same build mostly. You can tell he is really trying to narrow them down and make them damn near perfect.
I really like his TvT play where he gets the banshee, raven, tanks and marines. It really looks like the sort of style which could become standard (i know it's nothing new but he makes it look great).
I really like his TvT play where he gets the banshee, raven, tanks and marines. It really looks like the sort of style which could become standard (i know it's nothing new but he makes it look great).
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
TB...barf...but good idea to help pro gamers out more
http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/12/10/tb-and-liquid-launch-procraft
http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2011/12/10/tb-and-liquid-launch-procraft
TheThunder
Member
Ok... forgg has the shitest music playlist next to anyone who play dubstep. Did he plug in his 14 year old sister ipod by accident ?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Well its over for today! Only two sets left.is there ever any starcraft on this WCG stuff? everytime I tune it it's like dota or something. blah.
edit
I swear he never sleeps
oh, i guess it's on while i'm at work then
and since i have to work OT tomorrow nite too, oh wells.
don't be sad over wcg, its shit.oh, i guess it's on while i'm at work then
and since i have to work OT tomorrow nite too, oh wells.
AdventureRacing
Member
Just lost to a ball of marines tanks and banshees. There really is nothing i hate more in SC2 than facing that unit composition. It sucks because i'm playing really sloppy and all my timings are off. I got my lair way to late which meant my only anti air was spores and queens which didn't work out too well against that unit composition. Getting supply blocked just as the terran moves out probably doesn't help either :/.
Those loses really annoy me as i know i should have won (i was way up in supply and economy but just made a few stupid mistakes). That plus the guy basically sat there swearing and carrying on all game so it's kinda annoying when you lose to those people.
Still i think i'm starting to get back close to where i was, and i'm winning like 70-80% of my games since coming back to zerg.
Those loses really annoy me as i know i should have won (i was way up in supply and economy but just made a few stupid mistakes). That plus the guy basically sat there swearing and carrying on all game so it's kinda annoying when you lose to those people.
Still i think i'm starting to get back close to where i was, and i'm winning like 70-80% of my games since coming back to zerg.
Look on the bright side - you know exactly why you lost and what you need to do to fix it. It could be worse!
AdventureRacing
Member
Yeah but sometimes there is a difference between knowing and doing. I always feel like i know the reasons i lost, actually changing my game to prevent it is another thing.
I just need to start laddering more and try not to go weeks without playing. Then again i've said this all before and i never do it lol.
AdventureRacing
Member
Come on man, you're the terran player here you're supposed to tell me how to stop it
.im really weak with scouting so i don't see it coming.Come on man, you're the terran player here you're supposed to tell me how to stop it
thats my main problem with it.
i need to learn how to have better map control and scout earlier.
i have been getting tons of zvp today and its awesome.
hopefully my zvz curse is gone.
AdventureRacing
Member
Welcome to ZvT
. If you are facing a good terran player and he wants something to go unscouted there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Good marine placement can prevent all overlord scouting and will limit your information to what you can gather from poking at their wall.I think if i played nothing but ZvP and ZvZ i would have been in masters a long time ago.
... Start being good at zvz and then the "curse" will be gone, i hated pvz but now im fine in it and now the so called "curse" is gone;;
UnluckyKate
Member
Anyone use the 5 marines 1 marauder + slow shell early push against protoss ? It is usualy very effective to secure your expand, or make good economic damage : especially if he expand very early and don't have that much tech/production.
Also, as Terran, I can't use Thor. I think they aren't that effective against mutas because they are slow as fuck, usually out of position and end up as expensive turrets. Same against mass roaches : when I do Thor the guy just send me zerglings and I've dying when I could deal with mass sieges tanks marines and be okay. Also, anyone use Thor against protoss ?
Also, as Terran, I can't use Thor. I think they aren't that effective against mutas because they are slow as fuck, usually out of position and end up as expensive turrets. Same against mass roaches : when I do Thor the guy just send me zerglings and I've dying when I could deal with mass sieges tanks marines and be okay. Also, anyone use Thor against protoss ?
before skyrim
edit: and dota2
edit2: im prob even worse then before
edit3: get on mumble =[
edit4: i said fine not good
edit5: i should of said enjoy
edit6: how many more edits can i put?
i want to believe you but i was there when panda was owning you months ago.
months ago? When zerg was op? ya sure, but i really got good at pvz just between season 4 and skyrim launch.
Vacation is comming. i'll be back.
so zerg is op when you play ?
if u include early warpprism play then i give u the benefit of the doubt but if u don't then u were bad and became better.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
qq
give him one of your builds. :3
everyone who has trouble in a matchup should go to corran for wisdom.
he is artosis to GAF's meching terran.
Trickster
Member
*3:0's holden*
*nonstop complaining about mutas*
To be fair, mutas are crazy difficult to deal with as protoss, one misstep and your entire mineral line is fucking gone :/
Can't move out to pressure zerg either.
Trickster
Member
i dunno what it's like to play protoss as a zerg, I just know that statistics show zerg doing better in the zvp matchup currently.
And also regarding mutas, i was reading a topic on tl.net about what people had troubles with in the different matchup, probably 90% of protoss players said mutas.
not in korea.
hola! so after a week of playing sc2 i am officially addicted! now i am proud to say i am top 8 on the bronze ladder but i am still having a few issues as playing zerg:
1. i feel like i have a great beginning, i drone up , expand, etc etc but my freaking late game is terrible, with all the expansions and larvae and what not i just cant get that much micro managing going. its like i just forget to build certain thing and i fall behind.
2. i cannot for the life of me beat a decent protoss player, i just dont know how to counter certain things like a bunch of carries for instance.
3. same thing goes for the terrans, battle cruisers destroy me, but for the most part i feel like i play a decent game against them. i try to build corruptors but they die like in 3 hits easily from battle cruisers.
i know that all these reasons are probably because i just dont know how to fight well during late game but i am still learning and obviously need a lot of practice, thanks guys maybe i should join the neogaf chat channel i keep hearing about in here.
1. i feel like i have a great beginning, i drone up , expand, etc etc but my freaking late game is terrible, with all the expansions and larvae and what not i just cant get that much micro managing going. its like i just forget to build certain thing and i fall behind.
2. i cannot for the life of me beat a decent protoss player, i just dont know how to counter certain things like a bunch of carries for instance.
3. same thing goes for the terrans, battle cruisers destroy me, but for the most part i feel like i play a decent game against them. i try to build corruptors but they die like in 3 hits easily from battle cruisers.
i know that all these reasons are probably because i just dont know how to fight well during late game but i am still learning and obviously need a lot of practice, thanks guys maybe i should join the neogaf chat channel i keep hearing about in here.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
All of those three seem late game which you get better with over time. Its sucks at first but then you can start reading things and abuse people for their greed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKeGwOKr7K8i can feel the promotion to diamond ;p
i want it so bad
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
I'm artosis? Stop calling me a shitty player! Lol.
We need to practice sometime. Play more.
odin toelust
Member
I'm not really qualified to give advice, so take this with a grain of salt. The key as zerg, imo, is to keep your terran and protoss away from their late game units. If a 200/200 zerg army fights a 200/200 terran/protoss army the zerg will generally lose. If you have your beginning down pat and get get 2 bases up and running try to do some pressure off that while taking a 3rd. If you keep pressuring and expanding your own economy the terran and protoss won't be able to get those tough late-game compositions.
I like how the music is all nostalgia music from a decade ago.
For 2 and 3 specifically, you should not be allowing your opponent to get to those units. You should be aggressive enough during the mid and early late game that your opponent is forced to invest resources into defense that would otherwise be used on carriers/BCs, or he'll die.
slidewinder
Banned
1 is just practice. 2&3 come down to the fact that zerg doesn't have any good units that hit air, which is, on the one hand, pretty dumb-seeming, but, on the other, part of how things are, and the game manages to be pretty compelling regardless. So, you know?