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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT4| Everyone Else Would Beat Catspajamas

Q8D3vil

Member
Just preparing everyone for the glory of dota 2
i don't think so, it seems to be hit and miss in Korea.
i mean bw was more popular when sc2 was released even though sc2 looks much better.

LoL is easy as fuck to play and not that hard to get into which seems to be the main reason why it seems to be a big hit in Korea.
 

Holden

Member
isn't LoL most played game in korea lol;

Is it like a whole different genre to LoL or something? Cause otherwise it's pretty hard to be excited about.

LoL is a much easier game and much less complex then dota
As easy dota seems to be, dota is a pure bitch to understand
its funny cause dota was never really attracting to korea and LoL is somehow

i don't think so, it seems to be hit and miss in Korea.
i mean bw was more popular when sc2 was released even though sc2 looks much better.

LoL is easy as fuck to play and not that hard to get into which seems to be the main reason why it seems to be a big hit in Korea.

the "korea" of dota is china
And chinease players don't really play sc2 :/
 
LoL is a much easier game and much less complex then dota
As easy dota seems to be, dota is a pure bitch to understand
its funny cause dota was never really attracting to korea and LoL is somehow

I was mostly talking from a spectators and that only makes things worse. LoL matches are boring enough and it's already hard to tell what is going on. Doesn't sound like DOTA 2 will help with that problem for me.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
He was way way funnier before he got picked up by a big team. now its just him skyping catz and saying dumb stuff. pretty much nothing happens on his stream anymore. last thing that happened was when he got drunk. really crazy shit used to happen on his stream like confronting hackers and arguing with kid's parents.
Damn. Well I guess he's still entertaining to me :3
 

Zzoram

Member
More info about Blizzard's StarCraft II World Championship Series


If this thing pans out they way they are describing it... it's gonna be nuts.

They better take those national championships seriously, and have 2 representatives from every country go to the continental championships, of which 2 winners would represent their continent at the world championships.

I wonder if they'll fix Battle.net2 to have the special tournament ladder that WC3 had and use that for ranking the Masters/GMs for national championships.



Blizzard can make this awesome by making it built-in to Battle.net. They can fuck this up by making people have to register on a website.
 

jasonng

Member
I didn't know Destiny does coke which isn't a big deal by itself but I would imagine it being a bad idea powdering up while you're streaming with the Quantic overlay.
 

Zzoram

Member
Oh you.

It's a shame, I actually quite like him and Apollo as a team. (speaking as someone who used to really loathe his casting)

I'd prefer Apollo + random eliminated progamer over TotalBiscuit any day.

There should be tons of english speaking pros eliminated immediately since many are matched with Koreans in the first round so Apollo won't be lacking a partner for long.
 

Zzoram

Member
Destiny is pretty much the living embodiment of the privileged angry entitled white kid so it's no shock that he does coke.

I still can't believe he thinks that if people get offended by him saying racial slurs it's because they are mentally weak. Why anyone chooses to sponsor him is a mystery.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Daily Destiny hate ♥
 

zlatko

Banned
Daily Destiny hate ♥

I'm surprised Kotaku doesn't pick up an article on his slap happy ass though, when they quickly got a story on good ol LI Joe of the FGC now that he got sponsored by Brazzers. (Porn company)

I guess sexual harassment is a better focus for them too than a guy playing SC2 and says racial/offensive shit all the time lol.

Still enjoy Destiny's stream though when I've caught it for entertainment value.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Yeah Destiny streams can really vary... sometimes it's fun as heck, sometimes it's just bad ._.
 

Zzoram

Member
Got a summer job offer in Peterborough. Not going to be part of Toronto GAF anymore.

Still going to try to make it to the NASL S3 finals in Toronto though.
 
I'm surprised Kotaku doesn't pick up an article on his slap happy ass though, when they quickly got a story on good ol LI Joe of the FGC now that he got sponsored by Brazzers. (Porn company)

I guess sexual harassment is a better focus for them too than a guy playing SC2 and says racial/offensive shit all the time lol.

Still enjoy Destiny's stream though when I've caught it for entertainment value.

Wait, A fighting game personality/competitor got sponsored by Brazzers? I don't even know what to make of that. It might be straight genius.
 

Zzoram

Member
Wait, A fighting game personality/competitor got sponsored by Brazzers? I don't even know what to make of that. It might be straight genius.

It's actually going to kill the fighting game community. Nothing will make sponsors run away faster than having their logo beside a porn company logo.
 
It's actually going to kill the fighting game community. Nothing will make sponsors run away faster than having their logo beside a porn company logo.

I think your first statement might be slightly hyperbolic. I understand the feeling for some companies to run away because of the social stigma that porn = seedy, and evil. But I think some of the sponsors of the fighting game community may not need to worry about that stigma because of their primary market or demographic. If you have a product that is geared towards 18-40 year old men, you shouldn't need to worry about a stretch of an association with a porn company driving them away from that product.

But, I know little about the fighting game community so I guess my opinion shouldn't be weighed too heavily.
 

zlatko

Banned
It's actually going to kill the fighting game community. Nothing will make sponsors run away faster than having their logo beside a porn company logo.

I don't think it's going to kill it in any way.

Some people have already taken stances, and a lot more are still in the wait and see how it really plays out mind set. Joe himself said if at any point it becomes uncomfortable or something he isn't cool with, he's out. He values the FGC and the people within it a lot more than the sponsorship, but he is optomistic that a lot of good can come from this.

Odds are he's just going to have a t-shirt that has a Brazzers logo on it, he'll have the BRZ in front of his name if he shows up on stream for a match. They'll fly him out to events, and cover hotel, etc.

What kind of further involvement they want to do is up in the air, but Rob Steele was saying he'd like to sponsor a tournament too with a big prize pool for the games.
 

Zzoram

Member
I think your first statement might be slightly hyperbolic. I understand the feeling for some companies to run away because of the social stigma that porn = seedy, and evil. But I think some of the sponsors of the fighting game community may not need to worry about that stigma because of their primary market or demographic. If you have a product that is geared towards 18-40 year old men, you shouldn't need to worry about a stretch of an association with a porn company driving them away from that product.

But, I know little about the fighting game community so I guess my opinion shouldn't be weighed too heavily.

In the marketing world, everyone is shifting towards women. Women make most of the purchasing decisions in every house hold, they are increasingly the bread winners in house holds, and they are now 60% of the movie going audience and college graduates.

Ruining your brand among women is not worth the slight boost you may get from having your Samsung logo on some gamer's shirt.

Intel, Samsung, etc. are not going to want their logos anywhere near a Brazzers logo. Also, eSports will never get mainstream and female viewers if it becomes tied to the porn industry.

Broodwar in Korea was successful in large part because teenage girls actually made up almost half the audience. SC2's audience is 99% male.
 

jasonng

Member
I think your first statement might be slightly hyperbolic. I understand the feeling for some companies to run away because of the social stigma that porn = seedy, and evil. But I think some of the sponsors of the fighting game community may not need to worry about that stigma because of their primary market or demographic. If you have a product that is geared towards 18-40 year old men, you shouldn't need to worry about a stretch of an association with a porn company driving them away from that product.

But, I know little about the fighting game community so I guess my opinion shouldn't be weighed too heavily.

It's not so such much the stigma as much as it's neglecting a percentage of their audience. More importantly, as esports is becoming a growing community, it's important for streamers and teams not to be associated with a brand that can scare off future fans. Overall it's just bad marketing.
 

zlatko

Banned
It's not so such much the stigma as much as it's neglecting a percentage of their audience. More importantly, as esports is becoming a growing community, it's important for streamers and teams not to be associated with a brand that can scare off future fans. Overall it's just bad marketing.

It's okay to jerk off to porn. It's not okay to let them give bigger prize pools to tournament events in esports or help get players to those events that normally couldn't make it. It is really just a t-shirt at most right now.

I think people assume there is going to be a flood of sexy busty ladies at events handing out dildos and trying to sell DVD's of gang bangs to sweaty nerds.
 
^^Wait, are you saying it isn't okay for Brazzers to send this dude out to Vegas for a FGC event?^^

I'm not going to win this argument, but I think the target demographic in mind, man or woman, having Brazzers next to Samsung isn't going to negatively impact Samsung in the slightest. Again, just an opinion.
 

zlatko

Banned
^^Wait, are you saying it isn't okay for Brazzers to send this dude out to Vegas for a FGC event?^^

I'm not going to win this argument, but I think the target demographic in mind, man or woman, having Brazzers next to Samsung isn't going to negatively impact Samsung in the slightest. Again, just an opinion.

Oh I'm being sarcastic lol.

I think it's all bull shit that they want to not let Joe show up to events with a t-shirt saying Brazzers. It's like...really? You're that sensitive that it'll demoralize and upset the FGC with a fucking shirt for a porn company?

If Brazzers is smart they'll just sell t-shirts now and watch a big sale increase for people supporting him during this and want to wear a BRZ shirt. Seriously, if he showed up to an event with a BRZ shirt before the sponsorship, no one would blink an eye. Now? Oh it's a controversy.
 

Zzoram

Member
Oh I'm being sarcastic lol.

I think it's all bull shit that they want to not let Joe show up to events with a t-shirt saying Brazzers. It's like...really? You're that sensitive that it'll demoralize and upset the FGC with a fucking shirt for a porn company?

If Brazzers is smart they'll just sell t-shirts now and watch a big sale increase for people supporting him during this and want to wear a BRZ shirt. Seriously, if he showed up to an event with a BRZ shirt before the sponsorship, no one would blink an eye. Now? Oh it's a controversy.

FGC just got a huge PR nightmare about sexism. Add in porn sponsorships and it'll only fuel the negative PR. That will inevitably cost them other sponsors, either current or ones who were considering it but back off.
 

zlatko

Banned
FGC just got a huge PR nightmare about sexism. Add in porn sponsorships and it'll only fuel the negative PR. That will inevitably cost them other sponsors, either current or ones who were considering it but back off.

It all depends on how it plays out. I'm still hopeful that a lot of GOOD can come from this without reprecussions.

I mean if Brazzers all of the sudden just gave like $100,000 to Child's Play charity, at the same time Samsung did, does it somehow demeen their good cause?

It's similar to Nascar at this point how sponsorships work anyway. You wear their logo on a shirt for them. Similar to how a car has a logo on it. Jack Daniel's has a Nascar they support, does that somehow mean that the whole crowd supports drinking alcohol or is getting free shots during the race? No.

It's harmless.

Idra needs to get that BangBus representation immediately imo.
 

Zzoram

Member
It all depends on how it plays out. I'm still hopeful that a lot of GOOD can come from this without reprecussions.

I mean if Brazzers all of the sudden just gave like $100,000 to Child's Play charity, at the same time Samsung did, does it somehow demeen their good cause?

It's similar to Nascar at this point how sponsorships work anyway. You wear their logo on a shirt for them. Similar to how a car has a logo on it. Jack Daniel's has a Nascar they support, does that somehow mean that the whole crowd supports drinking alcohol or is getting free shots during the race? No.

It's harmless.

You'd think so, but porn + America = trouble.
 

Paches

Member
It all depends on how it plays out. I'm still hopeful that a lot of GOOD can come from this without reprecussions.

I mean if Brazzers all of the sudden just gave like $100,000 to Child's Play charity, at the same time Samsung did, does it somehow demeen their good cause?

It's similar to Nascar at this point how sponsorships work anyway. You wear their logo on a shirt for them. Similar to how a car has a logo on it. Jack Daniel's has a Nascar they support, does that somehow mean that the whole crowd supports drinking alcohol or is getting free shots during the race? No.

It's harmless.

Idra needs to get that BangBus representation immediately imo.

I don't know, Planned Parenthood just turned down a 500K donation because the guy who was donating it is a womanizer. This is America, dude.
 

Deadman

Member
Where did it come from that destiny does coke? Pepsi is far better tbh.



The blizzard world championships sound awesome, perhaps the millions put in to competitions by riot for League of legends has forced them to step it up. Or the millions by valve for dota 2.
 
I seem to recall Incontrol saying that they were making money from in during a SOTG. I don't remember which one though.

Just listening to this SotG right now, it's EP58. He actually says he THINKS they're profitable with the amount of sponsors they have and from talking to the person running it about future sponsors. No hard confirmation.
 
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