You'd have to redeem it on a seperate battle.net account (different email address) anyway, so you could just give someone else the account details or something if it works I guess.
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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT4| Everyone Else Would Beat Catspajamas
- Thread starter Corran Horn
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You'd have to redeem it on a seperate battle.net account (different email address) anyway, so you could just give someone else the account details or something if it works I guess.
wat?
Come one, 'evil' is right in the name. They're the Yankees of Esports.
Oh no! Not the froozing!
PhoenixDark
Banned
I don't think any major team seems interested in "farming" talent. I'm rather excited about the return of Root because they actually fostered development and talent scouting (Sheth, Minigun, etc). Every team is more focused on acquiring the best players to pimp their products. There's nothing wrong with doing that, but I think the only way the NA SC2 scene will truly grow is if we start seeing players break out the pack, gain followings, and then maybe join a smaller team before jumping to the big leagues.
We need more Scarletts basically, ie people who go to a tournament, have a crazy run, and then start putting in work. Right now the NA scene is dominated by the same burnouts (Idra, Machine, Huk to a lesser extent, Sheth, etc)
We need more Scarletts basically, ie people who go to a tournament, have a crazy run, and then start putting in work. Right now the NA scene is dominated by the same burnouts (Idra, Machine, Huk to a lesser extent, Sheth, etc)
It doesn't make sense for a team with big money to focus on new players rather than existing names. The money gives them way more of an advantage over other teams in securing the big players, I don't see how you can just throw money at finding/producing new good players in the same way.
Exactly how I feel, and what I was saying a couple pages back about ROOT. It's what the Koreans do that creates all of their impressive new talent coming out, and it's what foreign teams need to do.
CoL is doing work on new talent.
thing is though; we'll never get any new scarletts. it costs thousands to even go to an mlg and if you can't even be looked at without big time results, we'll almost never get anything out of that model. the na scene will continue to be run on those burnouts until the thought of their success in an event with koreans is so laughable that they lose customer draw.
compare that to teams like ROOT which had a massive breakout fanbase because of their ability to farm talent. people like new guys.
explain SlayerS.
explain just about any korean team.
i'm not asking them to give out salaries to random newbies; im saying form Clan evil nerds and fund a $100 inhouse only tournament every week. tops. then talk mous into doing the same. and dignitas, etc, etc.
basically every team should have a CoL academy or vVv analogue.
PhoenixDark
Banned
But teams wouldn't need to throw money at this. Korean SC2 teams with no money managed to do this last year and the year before, there's no question more financially successful teams like EG or TL can too.
I think we need more region specific tournaments, online or LANs, that don't just invite a bunch of Koreans to win everything - if they want to come, let their teams pay for it. People like watching Koreans play, but viewers show up even if an Idra or Huck or Sheth is in a tournament too. The scene is big enough to have room for these smaller tournaments - like Redbull today - just with an emphasis on a particular region. I don't believe the Machines/Tylers/InControls etc are the dominant second tier US players anymore, but we don't know for sure because they never have to prove it, and other players rarely have a chance to challenge them outside of MLG open brackets.
I totally agree with this, it's a shame there's always people that moan about game quality unless the tournament is at least like 80% koreans though.
StopMakingSense
Member
Taeja really rolled Thorzain.
and yet they watch the proleague where its basically playhem dailies.
More like
lol Idra
Puma, Huk and Demuslim are all top of their divisions this NASL
Exactly Panda, I just remember people saying that the mlg winter arena had too many crappy foreigners to be a good tournament but I guess there's always going to be some people moaning no matter what you do.. I'm all for more regional tournaments, it'd be cool to see who really are the best american players these days for example.
Speaking of! CJ Entus vs SKT1 in about 10 minutes. There's a decent chance we'll see how Bisu is doing in SC2 so far.
Ahaha, LastShadow getting his butt kicked, poor guy
To be fair to him, he's used to playing on maps where every unit costs less money and builds faster.
Poor cheater
Huh? Explain plz
Edit: Just looked it up, I guess you mean 5 years ago when he played BW. He was 14 then, seems unfair to hold some kind of grudge.
PhoenixDark
Banned
dat one base play. Seriously, the gap in quality between what we've seen in the Red Bull toury and that Bisu v Hero game is stunning. Elephant lol
edit: jaedong, flash, and now bisu have all lost their first SC2 games while demonstrating poor play
vicissitudes
Banned
Dat elephant.
I think most of them are only mid masters.
Watching Sayle's streaming OGN right now. Proleague SC2 is so bad at the moment. It's going to take the kespa players a while till they get good. Maybe not until HotS. I saw a Jaedong quote recently on TL saying since there's more automation with SC2 the BWer's can use their skill to focus on more effective actions rather than worker rallying etc.
There's actually a Proleague thread. I wouldn't say its "so bad" though, some of the games have been pretty bad, and some of them have been pretty good. I think the SC2 matches today have been pretty good for example.
PhoenixDark
Banned
Eh, that Bisu pvp was lol worthy. Granted it was PvP but still
He has to beat Inca and then play a ZvZ if he wins.
AdventureRacing
Member
He has already crushed inca who played terribly.
LTTP d00d
Just tuned in, looks like it's tied up now. TLO is just one game away from Code A!
TLO got a big advantage, decided to do a slow, bad, expensive, nydus all-in even though he only had roach/ling and it takes no time for them to cross the map. So stupid. Game 2 and early ling/bane in game 3 showed great play, but game 1 and the latter game 3 decision making was terrible.
AdventureRacing
Member
Why did he do that stupid nydus allin after getting that huge lead :/. He could have done pretty much anything but he tried a silly play and got punished.
Edit: MVP streaming, pretty awesome.
Edit: MVP streaming, pretty awesome.
AdventureRacing
Member
Puma misses out again, thebest is back!
he is always back....
Day 2 of red bull tournament is starting. Stephano might have to zvp his way to victory.
Brackets
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Day[9]
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/RedBullGaming
Brackets
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Day[9]
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/RedBullGaming
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
amg gaf is back!
Shut up with your "stephano leaves gg!" jokes Rob.
Battlegrounds is reminding me that like a year ago Day9 was my favourite event caster give or take Artosis. Now... eh not so much. He's still very good, but I feel like his vocal muggings and cliche spouting (granted, his own cliches which helps a bit) are getting worse. Not to mention his overdone crowd pandering. Probably I'm being a bit harsh because he's casting with Rob right now, and Rob has chemistry with absolutely no one.
Battlegrounds is reminding me that like a year ago Day9 was my favourite event caster give or take Artosis. Now... eh not so much. He's still very good, but I feel like his vocal muggings and cliche spouting (granted, his own cliches which helps a bit) are getting worse. Not to mention his overdone crowd pandering. Probably I'm being a bit harsh because he's casting with Rob right now, and Rob has chemistry with absolutely no one.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
One of the reasons why I stopped watching most of his casted stuff awhile ago. I think it was one of the european events last year when it kinda tipped the edge for me.