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//: StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty |OT5| Killing #ESPORTS
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Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
SC2 being a mostly 1v1 is a big issue too. I really only play league because my friends do.
Oh and, I can't go play another MOBA. I've spent too much money on skins
.SC2 being a mostly 1v1 is a big issue too. I really only play league because my friends do.
Oh and, I can't go play another MOBA. I've spent too much money on skins
Sunk cost bro.
sc2 is like seeing a band in some sweaty dive where you spend half the show avoiding head stomps and stage dives.
dota 2 is like seeing the same band after getting their major label break in some air conditioned auditorium.
lol is seeing them on tv doing a collaboration with some x factor starlet while you cry into your hands.
dota 2 is like seeing the same band after getting their major label break in some air conditioned auditorium.
lol is seeing them on tv doing a collaboration with some x factor starlet while you cry into your hands.
remember when sundance zealously stuck with the spectator poison that was the extended serious because of his cast iron conviction that mlg was about "finding the best players".
Not sure how popular LoL is in China, but it's getting higher viewing figures in Western tournaments. Blizzard needed to act a long time ago, the retail + expansion route worked in the past, but it's not going to cut it now.
Got to remember that Blizzard had DotA on their game and did nothing with it, not surprised to see them mishandle SC.
Haunted
Member
Have you seen the seeding in the last tournament stage? Kespa players on one side of the bracket, EU/NA/KR on the other. Kespa players will not hit EU/NA/Korean players until the Grand Finals, and each region eliminates their players among themselves.
Brilliant, really.
PhoenixDark
Banned
To be fair, dota games are much easier/casual friendly than RTS. Blizzard always had a tough sell, and the fact that SC2 is relevant in the US is a big thing. Still, they clearly need to do something before the game becomes a niche title with no home. It's not picking up in Korea, even after the BW switch apparently. Interest seems to be lowering in NA; it still seems damn big in Europe though.
Maybe HOTS will fix things.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
These are the kinds of videos that Day9 needs to make.
How to correctly reinforce your Zerg army-Dapollo
How to correctly reinforce your Zerg army-Dapollo
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Just wait until Apollo gets too popular and makes HOW TO REINFORCE YOUR ARMY WITH FUN-day.
Regarding SC2s future... well lets see what we got:
What have made LoL and DOTA2 big is first and foremost F2P. But this isn't all (but most).
The other aspect is that, atleast DOTA2 and Valve, has focus alot of community with ingame stream, buy tickets to events etc etc... here I see some combo that needs to be done for SC2 to survive and grow since, as someone said, RTS is much more hardcore than MOBA games.
My suggestions? Well its hard to tell... F2P is what I belive one way they need to go, but they need to make money in the end aswell, which leads to how to make a profit:
Also, the F2P model should be modified to fit their market (SP cost money of ccourse while MP is free).
What have made LoL and DOTA2 big is first and foremost F2P. But this isn't all (but most).
The other aspect is that, atleast DOTA2 and Valve, has focus alot of community with ingame stream, buy tickets to events etc etc... here I see some combo that needs to be done for SC2 to survive and grow since, as someone said, RTS is much more hardcore than MOBA games.
My suggestions? Well its hard to tell... F2P is what I belive one way they need to go, but they need to make money in the end aswell, which leads to how to make a profit:
- Ingame ads? Not sure about this but this could generate alot of cash
- Focus more on community and eSport and MAKE it a big thing. They have the money, they are doing stuff, but they need to do more.
- Sell ingame models for units etc that doesn't break the game in anyway.
- Custom maps that you can create and sell? Then Blizzard takes a % of the total sum.
Also, the F2P model should be modified to fit their market (SP cost money of ccourse while MP is free).
Doubt it, they need more people playing and being interested in the game and having people buy an expansion isn't the way to go. The longer the wait to make it F2P the stronger LoL/Dota are going to get.
AdventureRacing
Member
The viewer numbers for SC2 at the moment aren't bad at all (sure LoL and DOTA 2 are doing great but that doesn't mean SC2 pulling the same viewers or more suddenly bad). My concern is more for the game going forward. I just don't see expansions as a valid way of maintaining an esport, player numbers will drop off and this will affect viewership. That plus HOTS isn't looking all that good.
It sucks that blizzard is handling things so badly. SC2 had a lot of potential and still does but i feel like blizzard is going to miss out.
It sucks that blizzard is handling things so badly. SC2 had a lot of potential and still does but i feel like blizzard is going to miss out.
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EDIT: HOLY FORMAT BATMAN
http://www.majorleaguegaming.com/competitions/52#event_128_standings
Says 17-1
EDIT2: I belive that KESPA players will start to dominate more and more... while non KESPA will start to have hard time.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
It's been so long ,_,Your rage infused self?
THe next one will be one for the ages I bet!
TheThunder
Member
I'm sure that the Swarm host and Tempest will save sc2....
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
lololo
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
Sc2 korea needs less teams. Like 15 teams? Nah.
Haunted
Member
On a completely unrelated sidenote, I still think some of these SC2 maps people make in the editor are neat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L7HT76d1f4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L7HT76d1f4
By spending 8 hours a day inspecting the bunker and adjusting it.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
It was pretty bad for Riot since they had to regame up to 4 times due to drops. WE win, drop, CLG win, drop, drop, drop. So they just had to give up. Apparently there was also some cheating issues due to players looking at the opposing team minimaps. But all in all Riot handled it about as well as they could have. They bought everyone in the audience pizza, and gave out free swag.
You have to remember though, the entire venue lost internet so it's not due a B.net like problem just a hardware issue. Not that that excuses Riot in anyway, it's a shitty situation for everyone involved but I guess it's the whole vehicle of e-sports...
They're rescheduling for a TBA date.
please
this format is terrible for anything and nothing should be concluded from any of the results
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
There are other videos and pictures but this about sums it up.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=42944393&postcount=1598
Really? At least when MLG fucks up Sundance goes out to take responsibility for it, they don't send out whoever they decided to hire to host the event.
Flash vs Jangbi (2008)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TUhrE6b0aPc#t=2508s
Dem carriers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TUhrE6b0aPc#t=2508s
Dem carriers
PhoenixDark
Banned
I'm in the beta and the answer is no
but perhaps the release will be a shot in the arm for the game. I agree that a f2p model would make far more sense. Just add shit for people to buy like skins, then make the Blizz DOTA only available as a custom game within SC2 (so people have to download SC2)
Add a stream viwer to the home page of SC2 and boom, we're halfway there
TheThunder
Member
Finals weren't sheduled for this weekend. I think everything but the finals should have been played out, but they had to stop at the last game of the qurterfinals. So still pretty fucked up, especially since this thing is broadcasted on chinese TV or something.
EscapingJail
Member
I love each and every one of you.
Corran Horn
May the Schwartz be with you
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