jamesinclair
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Staten Island Grand Jury Does Not Indict in Eric Garner Case
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Fucking wow.
Unlike the Michael Brown incident, this was caught on video. No ifs, ands, or buts about the tragic way things went down. And yet still no trial at all?
Guess I should be thankful that I'm a relatively thin black guy of average height. Better keep my glasses on at all times too. Whatever it takes to look less threatening to the cops so they don't feel the need to put me in an illegal chokehold that they won't have to worry about suffering any repercussions over.
...shit.
Unlike the Michael Brown incident, this was caught on video. No ifs, ands, or buts about the tragic way things went down. And yet still no trial at all?
Guess I should be thankful that I'm a relatively thin black guy of average height. Better keep my glasses on at all times too. Whatever it takes to look less threatening to the cops so they don't feel the need to put me in an illegal chokehold that they won't have to worry about suffering any repercussions over.
...shit.
What else is there to see? The video shows everything.
Yeah, they saw that black lives don't matter.
Joe Shlabotnik
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What is there to not see? Literally the entire thing is on video.
NYPD really can't intimidate despite that. Just busses and their bikes. We can/will walk right by it.NYPD in full intimidation mode
Mammoth Jones
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What sends a chill down my spine is the fact that my kid will be born into a society that will hate and fear them. As a Black person in the US that's their birthright. And insisting they keep their head down and be "one of the good ones" isn't a viable alternative.
Gentleman Jack
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They saw a cop kill a black man without justification.
And they acted in accordance with their values.
bob_arctor
Tough_Smooth
In Staten Island?? The only boro to vote McCain? Oh, I have a few ideas.
To me the problem seems to be that media is not really interested about these individual stories per se, they are not going to sell properly as the victims are usually poor people from troublesome backgrounds or neighborhoods. But if there is a large violent protest, you can better believe it is going to be the headline and every torched piece of property will be televised to millions of Americans across the country - also around the world. People will witness the riots and you have personalities throwing around questions such as :
"What should we do about looting? Do you think we should enact more restrictions as to how our law enforcement conducts itself? *car burning on the background*"
Every story is not moving the country towards reconciliation but instead people are growing accustomed to stories related to police brutality while at the same time becoming increasingly anxious about these protests. And it's not like I would think any differently if some large crowd of criminals was about to loot my business, I'd demand that they be dealt with harshly.
"What should we do about looting? Do you think we should enact more restrictions as to how our law enforcement conducts itself? *car burning on the background*"
Every story is not moving the country towards reconciliation but instead people are growing accustomed to stories related to police brutality while at the same time becoming increasingly anxious about these protests. And it's not like I would think any differently if some large crowd of criminals was about to loot my business, I'd demand that they be dealt with harshly.
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We'll never know because the proceedings are done in secret and then sealed.
That's the part I don't find surprising. There's a reason why most NYC folk often forget Staten Island is there.
Looks like a hog pen was established
Goddamnit, does the NYPD want to look evil?NYPD in full intimidation mode
Gentleman Jack
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It's only confusing if you think the legal system genuinely places value on black lives.
asking for calm and seems to be really sympathetic with the Garner family. Also says Feds will investigate it now.
Personally speaking there's nothing wrong with any of those pictures. The minute they park army vehicles then I'll change my mind.
Exactly, I really can't find anything to say.
Since this won't be going to trial, we'll never know.
jamesinclair
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You dont see anything wrong with completely surrounding peaceful protestors?
Thats intimidation.
Nothing wrong with being prepared - two blocks away, out of sight. Parking a convoy of jail buses within view of the protest? That sends a fuck you we're coming for you message.
Chie Satonaka
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Oh, good.
Another promise of another federal civil rights investigation that won't ultimately mean anything.
I knew I wasn't holding my breath for nothing!
This is fucking stupid.
Another promise of another federal civil rights investigation that won't ultimately mean anything.
I knew I wasn't holding my breath for nothing!
This is fucking stupid.
IdreamofHIME
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CassidyIzABeast
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reading these #CrimingWhileWhite tweets is interesting
Looks like protest is moving.
https://twitter.com/FINALLEVEL/status/540279120060768257
Still small numbers from the pic though. Hope the crowd grows as the night goes on.
https://twitter.com/FINALLEVEL/status/540279120060768257
Still small numbers from the pic though. Hope the crowd grows as the night goes on.
Not it doesn't, to me it doesn't. It sends a message of maintain order to me simply because they are just buses and bikes and barricades. I've seen more than enough protests in this city to know that NYPD at the very least handles protest very well.
Byakuya769
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Open and shut really. The evidence missed out on a pretty fundamental evidentiary requirement in a case like this.
There was 0 evidence presented that Eric Garner was in fact white. Really a pretty major screw up here.
There was 0 evidence presented that Eric Garner was in fact white. Really a pretty major screw up here.
Brawndo Addict
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There is a perverse incentive for cops to have their victims die rather than be seriously injured. This not only prevents them from living to testify (allowing the cop to give the one sided and unchallenged "I feared for my life, they lunged for my gun, they were resisting arrest, etc"), but it creates a much higher legal burden in terms of them facing any consequences.
That and you reverse the positions in any situation like this and all the procedural/legal "safeguards" that get brought out when the cop is at fault go out the window. No one would care if someone shot a cop because they were afraid of getting shot themselves, no one would care if someone tried to restrain a cop from beating their friend and didn't have malicious intent...
That and you reverse the positions in any situation like this and all the procedural/legal "safeguards" that get brought out when the cop is at fault go out the window. No one would care if someone shot a cop because they were afraid of getting shot themselves, no one would care if someone tried to restrain a cop from beating their friend and didn't have malicious intent...
Chie Satonaka
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In what way exactly?
Massive Duck. C.M.
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jordan0386
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what did he write?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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When you take the pleading into account, not really.
Mobile Suit Gooch
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Bonus points if they blame Obama.
But in this case they had a whole crowd watching. I believe that this was not intended was a honest mistake. However it's still a mistake. They had every right to hold him, but not right to use a choke hold. Literally. Choke-holds are banned in the state. And their ignorance of him pleading for air makes it even worse. This was an accident - but an accident that could've been easily prevented if the police would've worked as intended.
And not bringing this even to court is foul.
Some shit about not provoking police officers.
Christopher
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Protests are peaceful so far
Was actually going to add more but then got distracted. No, I'm not part of the problem. Wasn't this guy arrested on the same charges many times before? I'm not condoning his death, and feel it was an accident.
It sill comes down to, DON'T BREAK THE LAW. Go ahead and flame this all you want. It's the truth. You don't break the law or argue with those in authority, you don't get in trouble.
MiniBossBattle
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I don't get it. I didn't watch the video but did that jury get to? Why isn't there some kind of punishment?
Share what? That the cops saw what happened in Ferguson with the fires and don't want to let it happen again possibly?
the problem is your skin color
Shpeshal Nick
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Fuck American police are scary.
I think if I ever go to the US and see Police in the street I'm just going to drop to the ground with my hands on my head regardless of what I'm doing. Just to play it safe.
I think if I ever go to the US and see Police in the street I'm just going to drop to the ground with my hands on my head regardless of what I'm doing. Just to play it safe.
Can you explain what you mean?
Dude Abides
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"I'm not condoning his death but it was his fault for BREAKING THE LAW."
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