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Staten Island Grand Jury Does Not Indict in Eric Garner Case
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Have there been any state sanctioned murders yet?
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I forgot that tonight was the tree lighting. This is gonna be an awkward one.
ostrichKing
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Unbelievable...there goes my theory that having things on tape would help....ugh...
It will help now and then, but as long as the system is set up to protect police it won't help to put them away.
Shouta
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It technically did help. We now know for sure that it's scumbag prosecutors and the courts that aren't doing their job. >=|
Jacksinthe
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Jesus H Fuck.
How is this not manslaughrer through and through? That video was clear as day. Fucking hell. I'm getting fed up with this. Un-fucking-real.
How is this not manslaughrer through and through? That video was clear as day. Fucking hell. I'm getting fed up with this. Un-fucking-real.
I'm very curious how in the world the grand jury came to their decision on this one, especially considering the police officer was using an illegal hold. At least negligence or involuntary manslaughter should have been considered? What factors changed their minds? It would be nice to see transcripts or some such on what the prosecutor was arguing...
And yikes at that cop shooting the guy at the gas station.. that video was crazy. Glad he was immediately indicted there at least.
And yikes at that cop shooting the guy at the gas station.. that video was crazy. Glad he was immediately indicted there at least.
bob_arctor
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Man. Former cop on CNN saying shit like Garner was resisting, "basically, that wasn't a chokehold", "it was an appropriate use of force". This right after they play the video.
Gotta check out of news coverage before I break my own television.
Gotta check out of news coverage before I break my own television.
The people defending this atrocity remind me of Carlton from Fresh Prince in this episode:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qQtDXxXyPYQ
https://youtube.com/watch?v=qQtDXxXyPYQ
Gordon Shumway
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So. The cops do wrong. Prosecutors are shit. The court is a joke. The circle of tripe..
Keegan Stephan ‏@KeeganNYC 13m13 minutes ago
https://vine.co/v/Ov62ZLBnDZ5
Works better with sound
Sho_Nuff82
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Keegan Stephan ‏@KeeganNYC 13m13 minutes ago
A friend of mine just posted a video from the protest on IG. Hope they stay safe.
Was the response not eat shit and die?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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"The system is working as intended."
Interesting.
They've been doing that all night both calling in to Fox and CNN. It's even better when neither ever agree with them. And each time at the end of the call they always refer back to the video and effectively say, "really?"
Beat him with a nightstick or choke him.
Those are the only two options.
HOLY SHIT!!!
TacticalFox88
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Dai, this may sound crazy or offensive, I apologize, but what ethnicity are you?
IdreamofHIME
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I posted this in the other cop thread about the girl that was killed in her sleep (rip). But I think the image speaks volume.
How do the Blues leave?
Gentleman Jack
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Keegan Stephan ‏@KeeganNYC 13m13 minutes ago
Are they both Eric Garner marches or is one pro-cop and the other pro-black-life?
Funny enough (or not so funny enough), that episode is arguably more relevant today than it was back then. XD
Foxy Fox 39
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Amazing.
entremet
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They're no pro-cop marches in NYC.
Big Baybee
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Any live streams of the protests?
Brown.
Mexican, actually, don't know what etchnicity i am though. Human before and above all.
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thepotatoman
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New York Penal Law 125.10: Criminal Negligent Homicide
Criminal Negligence
Basically, were his actions unjustifiably risky, and grossly out of the norm of what you'd expect to see used in that situation?
The fact that choke holds were specifically put in police code as banned because it was seen as unjustifiably risky should be enough proof that what he did was unjustifiably risky and out of the norm, and I have no clue how anyone can counter that fact.
There's absolutely no burden to prove the cop's intent or knowledge in order to still charge him for this. The only way I can imagine him getting off on this charge is for the prosecutor/jury to disagree with the police code about choke holds being unjustifiably risky, but why would they think they know better than the people that wrote the police code? Is a choke hold a commonly used move and considered unrisky in any other state?
We could go on to argue about even tougher charges, but I can't see how he isn't at least guilty of criminal negligence here. It's a minimum of 1 and a third years probation too, so it's not like it's ruining his life.
Criminal Negligence
Basically, were his actions unjustifiably risky, and grossly out of the norm of what you'd expect to see used in that situation?
The fact that choke holds were specifically put in police code as banned because it was seen as unjustifiably risky should be enough proof that what he did was unjustifiably risky and out of the norm, and I have no clue how anyone can counter that fact.
There's absolutely no burden to prove the cop's intent or knowledge in order to still charge him for this. The only way I can imagine him getting off on this charge is for the prosecutor/jury to disagree with the police code about choke holds being unjustifiably risky, but why would they think they know better than the people that wrote the police code? Is a choke hold a commonly used move and considered unrisky in any other state?
We could go on to argue about even tougher charges, but I can't see how he isn't at least guilty of criminal negligence here. It's a minimum of 1 and a third years probation too, so it's not like it's ruining his life.
Ziltoidia 9
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Perfect night for this then.
respect, never change.
Gentleman Jack
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Just checking. The Ferguson case had 'we love the cops' counter-demonstrations and my faith in humanity is low enough right now that I almost expected one in NYC. At least some things still make sense. Kinda :/
There's a runway out back. They just step out, hop in the plane, and they are immediately on their way to their payed vacation leave!
Soon. Don't worry. Defence force, etc
Gordon Shumway
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Liar..
remember the other topic where the guy said he didn't see how they wouldn't indict in this case and your response was just "lol"
yeah
entremet
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Nah. Not in NYC proper. NYC--The Boroughs--are pretty liberal.
yup. Hope my home Brooklyn comes out HARD
Terareflection
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The media is straight trolling people, now, they just want to increase ratings through, making people mad, and filming people breaking stuff.
remember the other topic where the guy said he didn't see how they wouldn't indict in this case and your response was just "lol"
yeah
Yeah indeed.
I wish this was just one big nightmare. I wish this was all different.
I wish things aren't this way and that it was different. It makes me incredibly sad and terrified at the current state of this country and what would happen potentially in the future.
Off topic but..Y-you're from Brooklyn, too? O:
Didn't you also move to PA? I did, and if you did...we might be brothers!
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