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Staten Island Grand Jury Does Not Indict in Eric Garner Case
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Assuming you missed the initial story.
That's Garner on the left and getting arrested on the right.
Autopsy listed cause of death as compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police.
Despite the photos, the police union claims that a chokehold was never used and that the prosecution is a witch hunt.
Because officers would NEVER use a banned procedure! Amirite?/s
Thank you.
EnlightenedMint
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No surprise, police can kill with impunity.
sigh, cops of killing people whether they resist or not.
Well he deserved to die. He was fat and sold cigarettes illegally. Chokeholds are okay since being overweight and angry poses a threat.
I will say that he did commit a crime and did resist arrest. The cops had the right to take him down, but a chokehold is never okay. Along with that, his anger was likely justified due to the way the NYPD has treated minorities in past decades.
Big Baybee
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Black lives don't matter in America.
Foxy Fox 39
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There is outrage.
You were and still are.
The death was declared a homicide by the medical examiner, and a grand jury comprised of the general public refused to indict. The problem isn't a corrupt prosecutor or every single police officer. Hell, where do you think those people come from?
The public.
The first sentence, not the second.
"Criminals are scum and no one cares if they die," - Grand Juries, probably.
jamesinclair
Banned
Until the people start burning down the homes of people aligned with the blue mafia, there will be no change.
Because it is hyperbolic and pretty stupid. The whole not all cops thing comes up because some people use the not all cops defense to obscure criticims of racism and corruption as a systematic problem (when it is). But the reality is the majority of cops are not killers or corrupt and the millions of police interactions a day between civilians does not lead to murder or durress.
We actually have GAF members that are in law enforcement. I know you are angry and you should be. But advocating for the death of them as a solution is really stupid. And I highly doubt society would be better with no law enforcment. That said the current system is fucked. Especially if you are black.
Edit: I assume you meant all corrupt cops and prosecutors. Where you had corrupt in the sentence implied all cops and only corrupt prosecutors. My bad if I read your post wrong.
quickwhips
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We agree to disagree. When he was cuffing him and he pulled hands back that is resisting. It sucks he died but I've been stopped and stuff before and I just comply fuck nothing is worth dying for. I have a wife and soon to be kid at home.
A= A white victim.
Still not seeing the humor.
NYCmetsfan
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So was Rodney king
Can't wait to see the defense force out at full strength. I hope there's a huge civil lawsuit and the department fires him. The coroner ruled it a homicide, for shits sake.
Soooooo, chokehold is warranted at that point, I guess.
Soooooo, chokehold is warranted at that point, I guess.
Systemwarrior
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Man this mess sickens me... But I'm not surprised.
Don't you see the over all problem of being scared that simple encounter with the police might end up with you dead?
smokeymicpot
Beat EviLore at pool.
Yes we do.
quickwhips
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Hopefully that is what will happen.
Angelus Errare
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#BlackLivesDontMatter
Big Baybee
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You can't choke a person to death because he resisted a little.
xDUMPWEEDx
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Get your common sense outta here.
R3TRODYCE
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Same thought that just went through my mind.
freeofgreed
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Welp America it's been a good run but I think it's time for me to gtfo. How's Canada this time of year?
captmcblack
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I'm wondering...is there any way at all that the cops could do this, and actually get arrested/be indicted?
It seems like it doesn't matter if it's an accident, if it's premeditated, if the guy was surrendering, if the guy was not surrendering, if the guy was not committing a crime, if the guy had recently committed a crime, if the guy had ever commited a crime in his life, if the person was a kid, if the person was an adult, if the person was tall and fat, or small and skinny, if they were armed, if they were unarmed, if they were brandishing cosplay props, if they were in possession of any kind of questionable item, if they were wearing a hood, or no hood/hat at all.
At what point can I get shot by cops without merit AND they are penalized criminally for it?
It seems like it doesn't matter if it's an accident, if it's premeditated, if the guy was surrendering, if the guy was not surrendering, if the guy was not committing a crime, if the guy had recently committed a crime, if the guy had ever commited a crime in his life, if the person was a kid, if the person was an adult, if the person was tall and fat, or small and skinny, if they were armed, if they were unarmed, if they were brandishing cosplay props, if they were in possession of any kind of questionable item, if they were wearing a hood, or no hood/hat at all.
At what point can I get shot by cops without merit AND they are penalized criminally for it?
Mister Negative
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Is this a joke?
Like, I can maybe somehow understand not indicting wilson. There's no concrete evidence, blah blah blah, whatever.
I'm LOOKING at a picture of eric garner being choked. It's right there. I see it happening.
And yet...nothing.
Like, I can maybe somehow understand not indicting wilson. There's no concrete evidence, blah blah blah, whatever.
I'm LOOKING at a picture of eric garner being choked. It's right there. I see it happening.
And yet...nothing.
I don't think everyone considers that possibility. I do. But I know people who would never think such a thing is possible. And maybe for them, its not.
BobTheFork
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So, forgive my ignorance....Is the grand jury just like a trial jury? They get 12 people and present them evidence and they decide if this can go to trial?
Just how the hell do you see an official coroner report and say 'nope, nothing wrong here'
Just how the hell do you see an official coroner report and say 'nope, nothing wrong here'
NYCmetsfan
Banned
Aren't all police killings, justified or not homicides?
Theres only 4 choices, suicide, homicide, natural causes, accident
quickwhips
Member
I'm not scared I just don't resist if being cuffed. I was just talking about how someone said we need self defense against cops. That is just stupid. IE more people die.
psychotron
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This was as clear cut a case of street murder as you can have, and no justice for the guy. Damn.
SliceSabre
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People should start reacting to cops with 'self defense'.
No surprise another cop gets away with murder.
No surprise another cop gets away with murder.
Well, that one cop that was raping poor black women in Oklahoma is in the process of going through trial for doing that on duty. Maybe it's just "lesser" crimes with which they can be charged. Murder? No problem. Rape and pillage? You done goofed.
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