If there were only one single area I were allowed to wish for Valve to improve, I think it would be communication/customer support.TheExodu5 said:Now he has to go back and forth with support until they decide to reverse the transaction. They're not being very helpful.
Its been gone since at least the 18th, no clue why though. Nothing on Twitter, nothing on Facebook, nothing on the steam boards, nothing on their site, nothing. Of some note, the game went up 13 months ago, maybe some sort of hypothetical contract negotiation problem? But I have no clue.Stumpokapow said:Anyone know when/why Max and the Magic Marker got pulled from Steam?
TheExodu5 said:So a friend bought me Dungeon Siege 3 (bought a hard copy). He thought he could just enter the key in Steam and then gift it to me after, since he already had DS3 in his account. Steam just ate the key and now he's basically out $50. He contacted Steam support and they just forwarded him to this page:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656&l=english
Not impressed with Valve at all.
Don't mean to be too rude, but that was dumb from the very start. You can't gift retail game that way, you will just get an error saying you already own the game. Its how I have checked in the past if some keys are still valid (Since it gives a different error if they key has been used)TheExodu5 said:So a friend bought me Dungeon Siege 3 (bought a hard copy). He thought he could just enter the key in Steam and then gift it to me after, since he already had DS3 in his account. Steam just ate the key and now he's basically out $50. He contacted Steam support and they just forwarded him to this page:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656&l=english
Not impressed with Valve at all.
Weenerz said:Your friend isn't very bright tbh, why would he want to register the key just to gift it to you? Couldn't he just send you the key via private message?
TheExodu5 said:So a friend bought me Dungeon Siege 3 (bought a hard copy). He thought he could just enter the key in Steam and then gift it to me after, since he already had DS3 in his account. Steam just ate the key and now he's basically out $50. He contacted Steam support and they just forwarded him to this page:
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656&l=english
Not impressed with Valve at all.
SalsaShark said:Yeah, im gonna stick with this.
Its bad support from Valve, sure, but it was pretty common knowledge. When you're gonna invest this kind of money into these services you gotta read your FAQ's, man. First thing i did when i started using Steam.
Valve has a system that eats $50 CD keys and customer service that refuses to do anything about it. It might have been a silly thing to do, but it's 100% Valve's fault that he's out $50.SalsaShark said:Its bad support from Valve, sure, but it was pretty common knowledge. When you're gonna invest this kind of money into these services you gotta read your FAQ's, man. First thing i did when i started using Steam.
Blizzard said:If there were only one single area I were allowed to wish for Valve to improve, I think it would be communication/customer support.
Any sort of chargeback locks your account, zero tolerance, and the only way to get your games back is to reverse the charge as far as I know. I think it's because otherwise it would make Valve look bad/cause them problems because of how chargebacks work, but I don't know all the details. In general, I -think- it's sort of normal for any chargeback potentially causing a retailer refusing to do business with you further.Gez said:Pretty much.
On a semi-related note, i keep hearing horror stories in regards to Paypal and expired Credit Cards.
From a forum i visit. Someone got his account permanently locked, and still is locked.
"The same happened to my steam account because of a negative balance automatic charge back a few months ago, there was no way to reverse that charge back because it was a prepaid visa giftcard so no more funds could be loaded, i never got the account back and i lost all the games. Steam has an account banning 0 tolerance policy towards even a single charge back. Bad luck there. I deemed never to touch Steam again."
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1402102&p=2
Stories like that make me lose respect for Valve.
eemijun said:Does anyone have any idea if Terraria would go on sale during the summer sale? (If and when it happens) I'm really wanting to get this game but if it might get a 50% discount during the sale then ill wait, or ill just buy it full price and support them.
QuantumBro said:Terraria has been crazy successful so I would be shocked if it did not go on sale.
Weenerz said:Your friend isn't very bright tbh, why would he want to register the key just to gift it to you? Couldn't he just send you the key via private message?
Fredescu said:Valve has a system that eats $50 CD keys and customer service that refuses to do anything about it. It might have been a silly thing to do, but it's 100% Valve's fault that he's out $50.
coopolon said:The Racettear devs actually said they regretted going on sale so early (although they also went on a crazy sale, to effectively $1.)
Gez said:Pretty much.
On a semi-related note, i keep hearing horror stories in regards to Paypal and expired Credit Cards.
From a forum i visit. Someone got his account permanently locked, and still is locked.
"The same happened to my steam account because of a negative balance automatic charge back a few months ago, there was no way to reverse that charge back because it was a prepaid visa giftcard so no more funds could be loaded, i never got the account back and i lost all the games. Steam has an account banning 0 tolerance policy towards even a single charge back. Bad luck there. I deemed never to touch Steam again."
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1402102&p=2
Stories like that make me lose respect for Valve.
SalsaShark said:How does a chargeback even happen? ive been using a Vista pre-paid card for years
QuantumBro said:Terraria has been crazy successful so I would be shocked if it did not go on sale.
Weenerz said:Your friend isn't very bright tbh, why would he want to register the key just to gift it to you? Couldn't he just send you the key via private message?
coopolon said:Open CCC.
My Digital Flat-Panels
Properties (Digital Flat-Panel)
Under Image Scaling, click "Enable GPU Scaling", choose "Maintain Aspect Ratio."
If the options are greyed out, change your desktop resolution to something non-native and not correct aspect ratio (not sure if that last quality is necessary), then go back to this menu and all the options should be available.
plc268 said:Yea, the options are greyed out for me...I'm running 1920x1200 on a 24" monitor completely standard.
That's the problem.TheExodu5 said:Because he thought it would be a nice surprise when I popped up Steam? It's not that crazy to assume it might give you a giftable copy. Not everyone knows how Steam works.
plc268 said:Yea, the options are greyed out for me...I'm running 1920x1200 on a 24" monitor completely standard.
coopolon said:To get them un-greyed out, just change your resolution to something not right like 1920x1080 and then go back to that menu and everything should be ungreyed out. Select keep aspect ratio (and it should make it so you have black bars on top and bottom now to preserve the 16:9 ratio), then go back and change your resolution back to native (1920x1200.) From then on whenever you launch a game not 16:10 it will letterbox it.
Does it show him as owing two copies of the game? You have tried entering the key again and got an error saying so?TheExodu5 said:Because he thought it would be a nice surprise when I popped up Steam? It's not that crazy to assume it might give you a giftable copy. Not everyone knows how Steam works.
Anyways, it's basic software design. You need to account for user error.
Drkirby said:Does it show him as owing two copies of the game? You have tried entering the key again and got an error saying so?
I would also have him send ANTHER support ticket in.
Or simply giving the retail key to the person. That works too.~Kinggi~ said:When installing retail products for steam you are installing for yourself. You want to gift that then you gift it as a retail product, which means shipping a physical copy, since it was a physical purchase.
scorpscarx said:In other news.....
Honestly he thought he could buy a retail copy and gift it digitally? Ummm
Yeah that isn't Steam's fault.
Have you tried just entering the key again on your account?
Stallion Free said:Wait did he check the gifts list on his account?
eemijun said:Does anyone have any idea if Terraria would go on sale during the summer sale? (If and when it happens) I'm really wanting to get this game but if it might get a 50% discount during the sale then ill wait, or ill just buy it full price and support them.
SalsaShark said:anyone has any info on the chargeback thing? maybe its a language difference but im not even sure what it is.. i wanna be careful
The Outsider said:Nice avatar!
Staying on topic, anyone have opinions on whether either of the Bond games on sale are any good?
LolJoe Molotov said:That's a crap deal, Exodu5. I hope you can get it sorted out. I hate hearing all the bad stories about Steam's Customer Service; it wouldn't kill them to improve a little bit more on that front.
*in before LovingOriginSteam comes in to brag about EA's Customer Service*