You don't spend half of NV fighting rodents and roaches in sewers, so that's a positive.
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STEAM Announcements & Updates 2014 II - The Definitive Edition
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You don't spend half of NV fighting rodents and roaches in sewers, so that's a positive.
Unfortunately i got stuck at level 6. I hate it when they lock me in with those 2 red robots.
I need it to go on sale!
If it's an option, the game is super cheap for the consoles now and playing it on consoles is fine (since the game is better suited for a controller anyways)
The Grim Heaper
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must feel bad, grief, huh
That's cold.
The Grim Heaper
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It hasn't been a featured deal in well over a year, but during general sale periods it's half off and at $14.99 the difference between -50% and -75% is just $2.50.
must feel bad, grief, huh
The pain.
Its goes on sale on other sites for pretty cheap quite frequently. GMG has a Sega sale going on this weekend, so hopefully it crops up.
If it does and it's fairly cheap, I'll buy you a copy
bigwinnerx
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Key buying is usually easy, but, the seller who has me in his buying group has SPSoT for $25 USD. Bah.
The pushing of the leaderboards in your face in BIT.TRIP Runner 2 both makes me want to play it more and drop it all together. It was fine when the scores were pretty rigid and even the bonus target at the end, but things like the loop-de-loops where there so much granularity in the scoring, giving you so much room to screw up on the perfect execution makes me want to drop before losing myself in the rabbit hole of endless restarts. Then there is the dancing system to boost points which adds another level of optimization, which is probably good for a highscore game but again, it just makes that hole even deeper. Luckily no one on my friendlist has really played the game so I managed to escape the trap by just getting through the first world.
I liked Fallout 3 when I played it but I agree. New Vegas was much better. Did you play the original Fallout games?
Just kind of musing here, but Namco kept saying that Dark Souls port is so bad because it was From's first time.
But if you think about that a second, how does that excuse the end product? It was Noogy's first PC port when he put Dust up on Steam and the port was perfection. Same with Image&Form games, who ported SteamWorld Dig over.
Something else was going on. You know Bandai just gave them extremely limited funds and time to get it done. Just impressive what some of these indie developers can pull off, even more so with Noogy who is just one guy.
But if you think about that a second, how does that excuse the end product? It was Noogy's first PC port when he put Dust up on Steam and the port was perfection. Same with Image&Form games, who ported SteamWorld Dig over.
Something else was going on. You know Bandai just gave them extremely limited funds and time to get it done. Just impressive what some of these indie developers can pull off, even more so with Noogy who is just one guy.
I've gone on the record here saying how much I hate Alpha Protocol. I really don't want to open that can of worms again.
Perhaps my expectations were not in the right place when I tried to play it but to keep things brief I consider Alpha Protocol janky in all the wrong ways.
I may try again since my tastes have matured a bit in the 3 years I've been playing primarily on pc.
I think I played Fallout 2 on my first family computer but this was back when I didn't have any concept of an rpg that wasn't on a console so I quit playing it shortly after I started :/
graywolf323
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how the heck do they screw that up?
There are a myriad of technical reasons why some games are easier to port than others. Don't compare them.
toddhunter
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I'd say it was a bit both factors. Namco would have said "you have this unreasonable amount of time and money to do the port" and From were not experienced enough to make it happen under those restraints.
It's quite obvious that From was given very little time to port the game. Scamco likely didn't want the PC version needlessly delaying the release of the DLC on the console side.
ohblahitsme
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Got my first foil card from Tomb Raider! Sold it for $0.99. I'm up to $8.73 from trading cards. So glad I started selling them.
state_vector_collapse
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I must be in the minority as I much preferred Fallout 3 to NV. I liked that it felt lonely and desolate. NV always felt far too busy and crowded to truly feel like a wasteland.
The Dear Leader
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Anyone played Insurgency? Thinking of picking it up, looking for a change from Red Orchestra 2.
The mind boggles.
Ban Puncher
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Just added and had a chat with the guy. Currently isn't taking PayPal, only doing trades for keys, but will restore PP soon.
Edit: Traded some keys in the end, worked out about the same in the end.
Rickenslacker
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Different team handled the DC and well, who knows. It's just kind of interesting to look at it because with the changes made for the DC I assume they can't just go back and implant the updates from the vanilla version anymore, so with the first (and thus far only) patch they've made they were implementing their own fixes for stuff that was long since amended in the original.
BertleTheTurtle
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There's no killfeed, so you don't know when you killed someone unless you check the scoreboard. (Unless they updated it since then but last I heard that's how it was)
The stuttering in the original was fixed with the May 2012 update so development on the DC started with an earlier build for no apparent reason.
corrosivefrost
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Glad it worked out -- he did take paypal when I approached him for my copy.
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This workshop outfit for Guacamelee is bananas:
The Dear Leader
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That's not a problem for me, just looking to see how well it plays. Thanks though.
oh damn the momo and shion redesigns look derpy as fuck lol
a very misguided rush but I guess it was effective as sales for the game have been good nonetheless. I think if durante hadn't come along the game would've tanked pretty hard
yea pretty much
a very misguided rush but I guess it was effective as sales for the game have been good nonetheless. I think if durante hadn't come along the game would've tanked pretty hard
paperspace
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cmon son, those are 2D games and not even remotely as complex as Dark Souls. Not trying to defend a shitty port but you get my point
Dimitri2401
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Guys, I had a feeling that buying Splinter Cell Conviction was a bad idea, and in fact it probably was.
Gameplay problems apart, the game uses (the terrible) Uplay, and is a really shitty port. The performance is so bad, I don't even understand how Ubi could decide not to patch it.
I should probably stop playing it and play Chaos Theory again.
Gameplay problems apart, the game uses (the terrible) Uplay, and is a really shitty port. The performance is so bad, I don't even understand how Ubi could decide not to patch it.
I should probably stop playing it and play Chaos Theory again.
Rickenslacker
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None of the patch notes lists it so I can't be sure which one did it but one of the early patches fixed a bug with tesselation for Nvidia cards in vanilla, and it's returned for DC, still unfixed. So yeah, I'm left to assume they started with the original release build, but some of the bugs that I saw in DC left me wondering if they started with an even earlier build than that, or if they were caused when trying to go back and implement the engine upgrades from Missing Link.
3D or 2D you still have to port the engine over and get it rendering on different hardware configurations.
Phyreengine is natively compatible with PC, while these indie teams are small and have low budgets.
not really
complexity isn't even near the issue
not having resolution options or basic keyboard and mouse functionality and shipping with gfwl has nothing to do with complexity.
it's bamco and from not giving a shit and phoning it in
durante had resolution working on launch day
bamco just didn't want to pay for QA so they just tested it worked on bamco's president's son laptop and called it a day
HP_Wuvcraft
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KoA is an okay RPG, guys.
It's not the deepest game at all, but it has some awesome elements.
It's not the deepest game at all, but it has some awesome elements.
toddhunter
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Indie devs also don't have the same overheads and opportunity costs.
But really I don't see that there should be much debate about this. They (From and Namco) have been pretty open that they rushed the port out as fast as they could. Hopefully everything works out better this time.
I think they have seen their mistaken, realized the shear amount of revenue they can generate from the platform, and the sequel will be given the time it deserves.
toddhunter
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For sure.... just not too much time I hope!
CheesecakeRecipe
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They've all got community hubs don't they? No real reason not to, money on the table etc.
I'd rebuy every single one of them again.
Yeah, the ones Atari was prepping were all ready to go. Valve employees have them so at some point Atari added store info but just never got as far as making them available publicly.
I expect it to happen this year and when it does I intend to bother EA Support for a Steam key for Crysis 2 vanilla. The fact that I own Crysis 2 and Crysis 2: ME on Origin but only the latter on Steam is unsettling to me.
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