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I already have the original Bioshock, but $34 for the new one is tempting...but I will amazingly try to resist for once. My reasoning is twofold:
1. I haven't done it TOO many times, but I have a bad habit of buying new games I'm interested in. I may do it with the new Shadow of Chernobyl game. Usually in those cases I end up not playing them at all, or else playing maybe an hour's worth and then not playing ever again. If I wait until I've played more than say, 20 minutes of Bioshock 1 (my current count) then I will probably pay more than $34, but at least I will have finished the first game. Or maybe the preorder sale will motivate me to play Bioshock sooner? I don't know.
2. Last time I got a 4-pack for a new game (Borderlands) I felt kinda burned, even though after editing ini files and stuff the game was playable. This isn't Gearbox, but I think I'm going to be a little more cautious.
*edit* 3 would be SecuROM. :/ Did it get patched out of the first version on Steam? It's also kind of icky that it doesn't list it to the side like normal extra DRM on Steam, but only down at the bottom. 4 would kind of be GFWL, though I haven't really had problems with that interface so far.
Side notes about Steam:
1. Hey, the publisher apparently agreed to include the first game, AND make it giftable if you already have it. Maybe Valve is listening to fans and encouraging publishers to do that.
2. Is there some requirement for Steam store screenshots to be on low/medium settings? The Bioshock 2 screenshots look...pretty ugly in my opinion, I guess. If I didn't know Bioshock 1 looked good and was an impressive game, I probably wouldn't even be interested just looking at the shots.
1. I haven't done it TOO many times, but I have a bad habit of buying new games I'm interested in. I may do it with the new Shadow of Chernobyl game. Usually in those cases I end up not playing them at all, or else playing maybe an hour's worth and then not playing ever again. If I wait until I've played more than say, 20 minutes of Bioshock 1 (my current count) then I will probably pay more than $34, but at least I will have finished the first game. Or maybe the preorder sale will motivate me to play Bioshock sooner? I don't know.
2. Last time I got a 4-pack for a new game (Borderlands) I felt kinda burned, even though after editing ini files and stuff the game was playable. This isn't Gearbox, but I think I'm going to be a little more cautious.
*edit* 3 would be SecuROM. :/ Did it get patched out of the first version on Steam? It's also kind of icky that it doesn't list it to the side like normal extra DRM on Steam, but only down at the bottom. 4 would kind of be GFWL, though I haven't really had problems with that interface so far.
Side notes about Steam:
1. Hey, the publisher apparently agreed to include the first game, AND make it giftable if you already have it. Maybe Valve is listening to fans and encouraging publishers to do that.
2. Is there some requirement for Steam store screenshots to be on low/medium settings? The Bioshock 2 screenshots look...pretty ugly in my opinion, I guess. If I didn't know Bioshock 1 looked good and was an impressive game, I probably wouldn't even be interested just looking at the shots.
Eaten By A Grue
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Damn Valve for taking my $5 for Bioshock and now they offer it for free with pre-order. HOW DARE THEY
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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So is men of war worthwhile? I'm tempted to get a 4 pack of Bioshock but I really want the special edition...
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Schmattakopf
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If you like multiplayer RTT, the first one is well worth $5.Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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I was going to say that I didn't think GFWL was DRM, just another client/achievement system with kind of a crappy interface (maybe like Steam originally was)...and then I remembered those people talking about how GFWL games have a hidden key limit.Lyphen said:
At least with the older games they claimed all the keys were interchangeable or something, and I think you may be able to play Steam Fallout 3 without using a GFWL key at all. I'm not sure though.Okay since NO ONE replied to my prevoious post about me owning a retail copy of Bioshock with an answer I went ahead a pre-purchased Bioshock 2.
And now I'm stuck with an un-giftable extra copy of Bioshock. Just fucking great. I don't want to give away my hard copy but now I might have to. Goddamnit steam, figure out your damn gifting system.
And now I'm stuck with an un-giftable extra copy of Bioshock. Just fucking great. I don't want to give away my hard copy but now I might have to. Goddamnit steam, figure out your damn gifting system.
MrMister said:
You had like around half a month to wait on it and get an answer, you didn't need to preorder it today.
Steam does not know you have a retail copy of BioShock. How would it? Their gifting system is fine. You didn't have a copy of BioShock associated with your account, so one of them went to you. The purchaser gets all games they don't have on their account info before anything else. If you had a Steam version of BioShock already, then you could gift it.
EDIT: This post was referencing more the single pack, rather than the 4 pack.
You really couldn't wait? And why did you buy the single pack instead of the four pack? I bought the four pack and even though I own Bioshock on 360 (none on Steam) it gives 4 to gift out. The single pack adds it to your list unless you own it on Steam already.MrMister said:
No I didn't wait. Didn't want to. I figured I might as well find out now to save other people in my same situation the trouble. I sent in a support ticket to see if they can convert it or at least directly gift my friend.
Besides, their support page for gifts mislead me as it was worded differently than the other gifts where they say you must own a game previously via Steam in which Bioshock 2 they do not.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656
I hope my friend gets this game from me. I wanna have that warm fuzzy giving feeling inside me.
Besides, their support page for gifts mislead me as it was worded differently than the other gifts where they say you must own a game previously via Steam in which Bioshock 2 they do not.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=4502-TPJL-2656
Seriously, they say you can let yourself own it or give it to a friend when you pre-order Bioshock 2. Wouldn't make sense if you never played Bioshock in your life via Steam or Retail and for some reason they gave you the option to gift it when they state it in their support page! :lol
I hope my friend gets this game from me. I wanna have that warm fuzzy giving feeling inside me.
Well, that's what I was trying to avoid. I'm selfish in the fact I like my hard copies better. (But don't get me wrong I will take a Steam sale digital copy any day or for that matter an extra giftable copy for a friend.)Lyphen said:
Until the support ticket is replied to though, my only solid line of defense is this line from the support page.
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...4502-TPJL-2656
IMACOMPUTA
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Hey everyone. I have a question... (i can't start a thread yet here on neogaf, so I thought this would be a suitable place for this)
I had GTAIV installed. I did alot of model replacing for the cars, and installed some pretty huge texture mods, etc. (this wasn't the steam version)
Then I later installed the Steam version, thinking i would be able to have two seperate installs... one that i would use for messing around in single player, and the steam version for multiplayer, etc.
Well, the Steam version worked, but when i went back to the other install, it has stopped working. I even deleted the steam version, but now its like the GTA launcher thinks the game is installed in a different place, and says it cannot find the installation.. even when i try to launch it from the folder with the non-steam version. I really don't wanna go through the pain of reinstalling/configuring it again.
Anyone know an easy, or easier fix than outright reinstalling it?
I had GTAIV installed. I did alot of model replacing for the cars, and installed some pretty huge texture mods, etc. (this wasn't the steam version)
Then I later installed the Steam version, thinking i would be able to have two seperate installs... one that i would use for messing around in single player, and the steam version for multiplayer, etc.
Well, the Steam version worked, but when i went back to the other install, it has stopped working. I even deleted the steam version, but now its like the GTA launcher thinks the game is installed in a different place, and says it cannot find the installation.. even when i try to launch it from the folder with the non-steam version. I really don't wanna go through the pain of reinstalling/configuring it again.
Anyone know an easy, or easier fix than outright reinstalling it?
faceless007
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What the fucking fuck. Seriously reconsidering even bothering with Bioshock 2.
Do we know if the game is also a Steamworks game (meaning the retail version requires registering a Steam code as if I had bought it on Steam?)
crimsonheadGCN
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faceless007 said:
It's not a Steamworks game, so you cannot register it on Steam. It's a Games for Windows Live game though. If it turns out anything like Bioshock did then the game should have SecuROM removed in 6 months.
Anyone doing a 4-pack for Global Agenda? Been reading the SomethingAwful threads about the game and want to play the game now.
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I came home and picked up Dark Void and the Men of War bundle, but goddamn the servers seem slow today. I am getting like 150 - 300kbs on Dark Void when I usually get anywhere from 2 - 8mbs on Steam downloads. I was really looking forward to playing the game tonight, but it doesn't look like that will be possible.
crimsonheadGCN
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Zefah said:
Did you try switching Download Regions? The slow servers is probably due to the fact that a lot of people have gotten in on the Bioshock 2 deal and downloading Bioshock right now.
AzureNightmare
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I love the nerdrage in this thread, its just delicious!
Diablohead
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The steam info about GFWL make it sound rather bloated but it usually auto sorts itself out on first boot, and logging in to live is something you only need to do once if you click the option to stay logged in. Might be a minor pain for non live users but I love it as my friends list and all that comes with me to pc games from my 360.
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crimsonheadGCN said:
I just tried that now and the speed improved somewhat. I switched to Seattle servers and I'm now getting a steady 500kbs. Still very slow.
Himajin
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Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
The single player in MoW is also lots of fun, if you can ignore the horrendous voice acting and cut scenes that look like they were made in 1995. I love having no base building, having individual inventories for each unit, and the accurate armor model for tanks instead of HP. I prefer the maps where you only control a few units to those where you command a whole battle front, but the AI is good enough to take a lot of the burden off in the latter case.
One example of play that sticks in my memory:
I took out an enemy tank with a grenade, shot the crew members who jumped out after they caught on fire, repaired the tank, jumped in, and then blasted a hole in a nearby building to take out the AT gun holed up around the corner. I then proceeded to go on a rampage through the village, knocking down walls and machine gunning anyone in my path until they finally took out my tracks with an AT grenade. Fun stuff.
Diablohead said:
Definitely. I was raging for a little while when I had to jump through all these hoops to get Dirt 2 running. But I guess it's not that bad. And it only has to be done once.
Although the original Live ID I chose got lost in the ether. And then I couldn't think of a second name I liked that wasn't taken. So when LIVE suggested a user name of FormedTrain, I was so blown away by the idiocy of the suggestion, I took it.
You are going to be the first on my list when I maybe preorder it right at the last momentGexecuter said:
Blizzard, I know how you feel. With Mass Effect 2, No More Heroes 2, Bioshock 2, and all these new games, it's hard to keep tabs on what to buy and what not. Financial responsibility can be a bitch like that
poppabk
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Or a major pain if you don't have control of opening ports on the router. Or a slightly more minor pain if you have multiple LIVE accounts because they won't let you change regions. I've never understood why can't you just run the LIVE client separately from a game - then you could have your friends list in every game you play.Diablohead said:
Servbot #42
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MNC said:You are going to be the first on my list when I maybe preorder it right at the last moment
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Well thank you for that very noncommittal offer that may not happen at all, i appreciate it very much
gregor7777
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K.Jack said:
Are you 100% sure it says 4-pack in My Account?
And when you say 'show up in my list', you're not referring to your game list are you? You need to open up the Manage Gifts/Extra copies window to see the 3 other copies.
ClovingWestbrook
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gregor7777 said:
Question- When you are a recipient of Bioshock 2 from a 4-pack, do you automatically receive the original extra copy or does the person who purchased the pack have to send it? I didn't receive the original.
gregor7777
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K.Jack said:
No worries, that whole interface should be redesigned.
winterknife
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I have two guest passes for killing floor and one for day of defeat: source, if anyone is interested.
Blizzard said:I was going to say that I didn't think GFWL was DRM, just another client/achievement system with kind of a crappy interface (maybe like Steam originally was)...and then I remembered those people talking about how GFWL games have a hidden key limit.
Missed this earlier. Dirt 2 made you enter a CD key into Live and clearly stated it was a one time use. Doesn't really matter if you're buying on Steam, because you can't sell it anyways.
-Pyromaniac-
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Ughhhhhhhhhh the worst is when you're browsing the Steam store and you see like, 7 different deals you want in on.
Gonna have to pass on a bunch for a while but the Bioshock one is nice.
Gonna have to pass on a bunch for a while but the Bioshock one is nice.
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