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STEAM | December 2014 - Read OP for winter sale questions

jshackles

Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
setup step(s) just say input cookie data...unless I'm missing something huge here

Make sure that you're entering your cookie data completely into the settings.txt file. Also make sure your data is between the quotation marks already on the file. When your done it'll look something like:

sessionid = "yoursessionid"
steamLogin = "thisisyourreallylongsteamlogincookieinformation"
steamparental = ""
sort = "mostvalue"

with nothing else in the file
 

KiDdYoNe

Member
Guys, there's a rumor (a few insiders and valuable people retweeted the message) on rusland twitter that due to russian currency just crashed (once again lol) Valve is sending emails to publishers about price raising in RU Steam.

Take with the salt but damn, Ubisoft games are already 1400 rub, other majors are around the same price. I'm sure everyone wanted to raise prices long time ago so this would be the right time.

Just getting on new page and going to bed. 5AM hello there.

Tomorrow may be fun.
 

Teeth

Member
I'm pretty sure greenlight is kind of a democracy, and people overwhelmingly supported it.

What does valve say to those people now?

That they have last right of refusal and final say on everything. Same as always.

They also add a bunch of games that never touch greenlight. Greenlight also has no specific rules for which games get picked up and which don't. Valve could leave the #1 ranked game floundering in its depths and only really have to deal with the PR from its fans. They are willing to excise the part of the audience that demands one game to gain the audience that would be repulsed by its inclusion.

This is business.
 
Not selling it on your store is not censorship.
Wrong. This weakens the argument when people refuse to acknowledge that it IS censorship. It's corporate censorship through the refusal of marketplace access. And that's perfectly fine for a company to do that. Private censorship happens all the time, some of it dumb, some of it very good.
 

Maniac

Banned
That is a terrible comparison and you know it.

I'd just like to point out that the devs have put out a lot of racist stuff on twitter. And the fact that the only white person* in the game is the player character is... Quite telling.

*As far as I've been able to tell having watched the trailer several times.
 

MUnited83

For you.
My final auction haul(unless there's some severe drops in price on some stuff):

IYxPqVl.png


Around 41000 gems spent, which were bought at the average price of 0.35€ for each 1k

So that's 14,35€ euros for everything.Subnautica is a 35$ game that is not even for sale yet, Pro Cycling Manager 2014 has a lowest recorded price of 9,99€ and Railway has a 33€ lowest recorded price.


I said it already and I say it again. This auction is fucking amazing.


Oh, and those 14,35€? Those are remains of selling cards and booster packs made when the gem sacks were super ultra cheap. I didn't pay a single real cent on my end.
 
My final auction haul(unless there's some severe drops in price on some stuff):

IYxPqVl.png


Around 41000 gems spent, which were bought at the average price of 0.35€

So that's 14,35€ euros for everything.Subnautica is a 35$ game that is not even for sale yet, Pro Cycling Manager 2014 has a lowest recorded price of 9,99€ and Railway has a 33€ lowest recorded price.


I said it already and I say it again. This auction is fucking amazing.

How did you get all those gems with only .35?
 

autoduelist

Member
Not selling it on your store is not censorship.

Sure it is, it's just not government censorship. Censorship need not be written into law, and it can be implemented at any level, including self-censorship for fear of reprisal / not being sold / etc. It is true that some people use the word 'censorship' to implicitly mean 'official' censorship, but common usage does not.

For example, in the US the 'X' rating was initially not meant for 'porn', but any adult themed film - even A Clockwork Orange and Evil Dead were X rated. However, the vast majority of theaters would not show any X rated films, because they didn't want to be associated with the stigma of 'X rated'. The result was that studios self-censored to avoid the X-rating, because it was too often financial suicide (despite the long term success of my two examples, but that's a different phenomenon).

That's still censorship, even though it's completely indirect and the result of several disparate social/financial pressures. There was no law against X rated films, it was just pressure. It's called 'soft censorship' but common usage just truncates that to 'censorship'.

I'm not saying Steam doesn't have the right to sell / not sell whatever they want. Of course they do. But it is undeniably a form of censorship when a primary retailer refuses to sell something based on content. All you need to do to see why is change the 'objectionable content' to something most (rightly) don't find objectionable -- like if Steam decided to remove games like Mass Effect or Dragon Age that allowed same sex relationships -- to see why some might find any case objectionable.

I know of another large distributor of content (whose name I shall not mention) that sells anything and everything -- but marks any racist/objectionable material in house behind the scenes and donates 100% of profits from that material to various charities fighting those issues. A strange yet somehow beautiful solution to a very complex problem.
 
I've been playing Tesla Effect. The production values on that game are fantastic.

...But that feel when you realize you missed a missable, and that missable was right before a series of puzzles and a bullshit stealth section. It's like they clumped all their point-and-click sins in one area.
 

Metalic Sand

who is Emo-Beas?
The one game i wanted to win is Evil Within and bids are still going UP for it. No point spending more than $20 on it(Its currently around $40 in bids lol). I have 300 gems to spare to try to get that badge.
 

zkylon

zkylewd
I've been playing Tesla Effect. The production values on that game are fantastic.

...But that feel when you realize you missed a missable, and that missable was right before a series of puzzles and a bullshit stealth section. It's like they clumped all their point-and-click sins in one area.

lol

i hate it when point and click games add "sections" of any kind

with the exception of insult fighting in monkey island
 
Yeah i might just flip some emotes since you can still profit off those at current gem prices. Then keep some around 1-2K

Really? I was doing some checking earlier and by my calculations you'd either break even, or lose money as you're paying full price on the emoticons/backgrounds and losing some when you sell the sacks due to Valve/publisher fees.
 

Vibranium

Banned
Gems are going down, sell if you want. I'm not going to, too volatile for me and I don't have many anyways. I hope I win a game in the auction.
 

Metalic Sand

who is Emo-Beas?
Sacks of Gems are dropping fast since 15 minutes.

It dropped from 1.26 to 1.10 in that time lol. This is so interesting to watch.

Edit: 1.03 and dropping

Really? I was doing some checking earlier and by my calculations you'd either break even, or lose money as you're paying full price on the emoticons/backgrounds and losing some when you sell the sacks due to Valve/publisher fees.

I would just make buy orders at 10 cents or so and hope people would throw it up cheaper(And they do!)
 

AsylumX

Member
Oh no, the Russians are causing the price to drop. My cursor is right over the sell button.

It's not the russians. Is the same effect that occurs in a bank run. As prices goes up everyone feels safe and comfortable. But as soon as someone heavily undercuts the other, people panic and start selling cheaper because they thing they market will collapse.
 

Articalys

Member
I really should have paid more attention in all my economics classes -- apparently it would have been the difference here between maybe winning a free $4 game, or getting away like a bandit with over $80 of profit.
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
Russians_are_coming.jpg


I'm going all-in for the auction side, and if that fails, boosterpacks. I thought about selling gems, but decided against it. There's a Gambler inside me.

(and my taste is so obscure I'm in the top 10 for most of the games I am bidding on and they mostly have barely 100 bidders as is.)
 

derExperte

Member
Oh no, the Russians are causing the price to drop. My cursor is right over the sell button.

Buy high/too late, sell low/too soon. You should get into stocks. :p

Guys, there's a rumor (a few insiders and valuable people retweeted the message) on rusland twitter that due to russian currency just crashed (once again lol) Valve is sending emails to publishers about price raising in RU Steam.

Take with the salt but damn, Ubisoft games are already 1400 rub, other majors are around the same price. I'm sure everyone wanted to raise prices long time ago so this would be the right time.

Any more info? Links to translations of that message? Are they suggesting to raise prices before the sale?
 

Dusk Golem

A 21st Century Rockefeller
Actually, one thing I should mention; I think if you want to win something, try and win it before the final day. I have a feeling if you haven't won it by the third day, its just going to become a lot harder at that point. However, as a consequence, I also expect gem prices will rise then. But the rise may be balanced by people who are selling gems realizing they aren't going to win. To be seen which force is more powerful.
 
I have no idea how to read the market, but sure is fascinating to watch!

If you have around 4k gems left and a hardcore collector you can get Cricket Captain 2014. Hasn't dropped below US$18 before and is one of those yearly management sims like Football Manager so it may disappear at some point.
 

iosefe

Member
so...what are the odds someone could loan me say....500 ish gems so i could potential get TRON Evolution. it's That or Double Dip on Velocity Ultra
 
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