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STEAM | July 2014-3 Let Off Some STEAM Bennett
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PandaPedinte
Member
Lol this one got me.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
Rwegians isn't a real word brah
MMBosstones86
Member
Back from PT.
Thanks for filling in on the Groupees IBM bundle, Deques.
About the GIF quoting stuff. I personally don't mind the one gif now and then, the problem comes from when people quote the post the gif was in over and over again, filling sometimes whole pages with the same image.
So, if people want to post a big gif, it would help if everyone started to actually use img-quotes, like so:
It doesn't take long, and it helps keep the overload down.
Some of you already do, and for that, I salute you
Hope the PT went well dude.
And yes, we all need to get on board with this. Nothing like a page full of NOPE gifs. I've tried getting used to this as well.
Stallion Free
Cock Encumbered
Just finished up "Aperture Tag: The Paint Gun Testing Initiative" a recently released game. Here are my thoughts:
I think this game kind of proves that it's a bad idea to turn a mod into a commercial product unless you are supported by an actual development team. While this is polished by mod standards, it's not polished by paid game standards and it's certainly not polished by Valve-made Portal content standards. There is painfully bad voice-acting accompanied by painfully bad writing. The titular "paint gun" has an unattractive model that feels low poly and lacking in detail. There just isn't the type of design flow I expect in a puzzle game where concepts are built upon each other in a natural way. It just feels like a bunch of rooms duct-taped together (one example of this would be a room that requires you to figure out a mechanic that is used just once in the game and never really hinted at prior to being needed). Even the visuals feel crude most of the time, particularly when they move beyond just using the Portal 2 assets.
Don't get me wrong, the concept is really neat and could totally justify a small Portal 1-size game, but this just isn't that game. The occasional moments of good, satisfying content just don't come often enough to make the 7$ asking price even remotely worthwhile. I don't think I'd even bother telling my Steam Family to check it out over Family Sharing.
I think this game kind of proves that it's a bad idea to turn a mod into a commercial product unless you are supported by an actual development team. While this is polished by mod standards, it's not polished by paid game standards and it's certainly not polished by Valve-made Portal content standards. There is painfully bad voice-acting accompanied by painfully bad writing. The titular "paint gun" has an unattractive model that feels low poly and lacking in detail. There just isn't the type of design flow I expect in a puzzle game where concepts are built upon each other in a natural way. It just feels like a bunch of rooms duct-taped together (one example of this would be a room that requires you to figure out a mechanic that is used just once in the game and never really hinted at prior to being needed). Even the visuals feel crude most of the time, particularly when they move beyond just using the Portal 2 assets.
Don't get me wrong, the concept is really neat and could totally justify a small Portal 1-size game, but this just isn't that game. The occasional moments of good, satisfying content just don't come often enough to make the 7$ asking price even remotely worthwhile. I don't think I'd even bother telling my Steam Family to check it out over Family Sharing.
Blak_Status
Member
Maybe I should send them this if one of those people ended up winning. lol
LOL
MEGAGIVERSONLY > PAYITFORWARD
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
Doesn't ModBot automatically have a 15-minute throttle or something?
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
I don't enter giveaways, anyway, so no skin off my nose.
This attitude basically describes the modern "Irish-American" perfectly.
Ban Puncher
Member
Not as bad as Bad Rats. Maybe.
ModBot said:Instructions for participants:
I am giving away a Steam key. To enter this giveaway, send a PM to ModBot with any subject line. In the body, copy and paste the entire line from the message below containing the game you want to enter for. Confused? Watch this GIF tutorial or ask for help.
ModBot Basics:
- This giveaway has a manual blocklist. The giver has identified members who abuse giveaways and restricted them from participating.
- I really appreciate thank you messages, but please send them to me (Man Puncher, not ModBot!) via PM instead of in thread.
- Do not trade keys you win off-site to enrich yourself. Don't try to claim games you have no interest in collecting or playing. Don't claim games to give them to friends off-site.
- If the key is already taken you will not receive a reply. Replies may take a minute or two.
Rules for this Giveaway:
- If you are a lurker you are not eligible for this giveaway. You need five or more posts in either the current Steam thread or the previous one to be eligible
- This giveaway is a LIGHTNING raffle. The winners will be selected by random draw 15 minutes after the draw was created. Any games not claimed after that point will be given away first come first serve.
Need for Speed Undercover --MB-0A6DB5F041D94D97- Taken by ImSooFlye. 15 entrants total.
freshVeggie
Member
Haha, no need to feel sorry. Was a lame joke.
You are doing something very generous and unlike me it's high-profile games you're giving away. And folks who didn't win deserve better chances, it's totally fair.
Besides I won so many great games, I have no right to complain at all.
I was going to ask if this feels like a game worth getting on sale for $2, but your last sentence answered that for me. Guess I'll have to take it out of my wishlist.Just finished up "Aperture Tag: The Paint Gun Testing Initiative" a recently released game. Here are my thoughts:
I think this game kind of proves that it's a bad idea to turn a mod into a commercial product unless you are supported by an actual development team. While this is polished by mod standards, it's not polished by paid game standards and it's certainly not polished by Valve-made Portal content standards. There is painfully bad voice-acting accompanied by painfully bad writing. The titular "paint gun" has an unattractive model that feels low poly and lacking in detail. There just isn't the type of design flow I expect in a puzzle game where concepts are built upon each other in a natural way. It just feels like a bunch of rooms duct-taped together (one example of this would be a room that requires you to figure out a mechanic that is used just once in the game and never really hinted at prior to being needed). Even the visuals feel crude most of the time, particularly when they move beyond just using the Portal 2 assets.
Don't get me wrong, the concept is really neat and could totally justify a small Portal 1-size game, but this just isn't that game. The occasional moments of good, satisfying content just don't come often enough to make the 7$ asking price even remotely worthwhile. I don't think I'd even bother telling my Steam Family to check it out over Family Sharing.
Hyper Light Drifter.
that's it
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
This might be possible
ModBot tries to detect when games are over $30 but it's still a very imperfect process and I don't feel super comfortable trying to apply it to actual rules. One problem is this: How much is, say, Kairo or whatever? Well, the intuitive answer is that it's one of 10 games in a $1.50 bundle so it's $0.15. Except that Steam thinks it is $5, so ModBot is going to read $5. Or let's do an even more gratuitous example; Hitman Absolution is a $20 game. Yesterday you could have bought it for $6 with 10+ other games.
ModBot obviously can't instantly and forever know what you paid for something, only what the value is on Steam. Even when stuff goes on sale on Steam, ModBot still has the game catalogue data cached. I could try to pull the lowest price data to try to help resolve this, but that's not really fair either, because when someone gives away a game they paid $5-10 for, they shouldn't be punished because say 2 years ago it was in a bundle with other games, right?
Also prices are only detected when you get the game name right. If you typo or screw it up or do it as a mystery giveaway or something, obviously all bets are off. It'd also only be limited to Steam games, since when Shovel Knight goes in a bundle on PC it'll still be $15 on Wii U and I wouldn't want to "punish" someone giving away a Wii U copy just because the game is widely available on PC, right? Like, how much credit would the anonymous person who gave away a $400 cell phone get?
And, like, obviously these are problems that could be remedied with lots of administrative oversight, but there's two problems that raises. First is that I am not being paid to do this and I already hate actually working for a living, so I'm not sure why I'd take something that's basically a terrible data entry job in exchange for no money--data entry isn't an interesting programming experience, either. Second is that if a human judgment call gets incorporated, suddenly the process doesn't feel impartial and then people need to decide if they trust me. I don't want to earn people's trust, which is why I made a system that works equally if you permanently block me because you hate my guts or if you think I'm practically better than montreal smoked meat.
Finally, and I know this isn't really what you were suggesting. I'm not sure I like the precedent of building the system so that people are incentivized to spend huge amounts of money giving away games, and then would-be recipients are incentivized to spend huge amounts of money to gamble for a chance at winning them. Like, I like the fact that it's possible to be a pretty frequent modbot participant, be relatively fair about giving away things as you win, but not need to invest and not need to feel burned if you don't win something. I don't want people to feel like there's two classes of user, poor users who fight for table scraps, and rich users who mutually benefit one another but exclude the rest with a steep buy-in. If we assume that recipients are a charity, a world where ModBot requires real cash to buy into ends up looking like some sort of church charity raffle.
I just think about taking the capital meritocracy to its logical end point... I would never implement something like "Pay $5 to get an extra shot at winning this giveaway" or whatever business model gambling type sites do--I mean, could you imagine what it could come to? Imagine ModBot as 50/50 F2P system, where some people "play" to enter while other people "buy" to enter, and the money raised gets shared with the giver? And people are making profit giving stuff away? It'd be like a penny auction service or some other disgusting gambling setup. Ugh. Gross.
(I know none of this is what you're proposing, but I'm a pretty analytical person and it serves my purposes better to walk through my thought process rather than just answering directly).
Mr. Poolman
Member
I entered yours because I love that image!
Last I gave away was Remember Me i think, and before that I won a $5 game on the steam sale.
I think I qualify to your raffle, but I'm honestly not sure!
FiveElementNinja
Member
Man I wish they had Underground 2 and Most Wanted (the first one). I'd be all over those.
Does it? I was just going by what it said in the ModBot Guide:
Damn that King's Bounty deal is so good. Must resist from buying for the next 24 hours :O
MMBosstones86
Member
I've actually thought about this. Couldn't you technically give away an already used key and have it still count?
no way this is going to backfire
Kaleinc
Banned
A single launcher for all of these would have been nice...
As in, have a single Race 07 library listing, and once you launch the game, you'd be able to jump into which expansion you wanted to play.
I think more games should be split up like this.
derExperte
Member
MMBosstones86
Member
Issue with number 2 is that technically most of the Bundle Fodder has MSRP higher than 5-10.
:>The page does say it comes with a second and third game.
That's a pretty cool feature, very handy!
Congrats and nice giveaway
Arkham Knight isn't even out on Steam tho, is it?
I haven't finished the game yet and probably won't. It's sadly not as intriguing as I thought it would be. But certainly worth a shot for <5$.
Dupes from the humble bundle -
Enjoy.
Edit: And lol, no this isn't to put myself into the Arkham giveaway. I haven't even finished the first 3, why in the world would I want the fourth. xD
ModBot said:Instructions for participants:
I am giving away 2 Steam keys. To enter this giveaway, send a PM to ModBot with any subject line. In the body, copy and paste the entire line from the message below that corresponds to the game you want. (if you include more than one game, you will be blocked from entering). Confused? Watch this GIF tutorial or ask for help.
ModBot Basics:
- I really appreciate thank you messages, but please send them to me (Zafir, not ModBot!) via PM instead of in thread.
- Do not trade keys you win off-site to enrich yourself. Don't try to claim games you have no interest in collecting or playing. Don't claim games to give them to friends off-site.
- If the key is already taken you will not receive a reply. Replies may take a minute or two.
Rules for this Giveaway:
- If you are a lurker you are not eligible for this giveaway. You need five or more posts in either the current Steam thread or the previous one to be eligible
- This giveaway is a LIGHTNING raffle. The winners will be selected by random draw 15 minutes after the draw was created. Any games not claimed after that point will be given away first come first serve.
Hitman Absolution --MB-964E957A5F687527- Taken by iosefe. 10 entrants total.
Deus Ex Invisible War --MB-AC79188AAAA04FC2- Taken by lfvgt. 4 entrants total.
Enjoy.
Edit: And lol, no this isn't to put myself into the Arkham giveaway. I haven't even finished the first 3, why in the world would I want the fourth. xD
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
I think I accidentally entered that giveaway thinking it was NFS: Most Wanted..
Thank you for sharing your thought process with us Stump, really help. I figured that 2) was a bit impractical and unfair.
But do you think you can look into whether 1) was possible?
Oh and by the way, when I tried doing Megagivers and PayItForward together earlier. None of it registered in the raffle. So I had to make a new one with only PayItForward. Is it a bug?
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
derExperte
Member
http://steamcommunity.com/gid/103582791433918461#announcements/detail/246888230388336240
oh no, jshackled
but I have a link, ha!
Prove it and take my Paradigm Shift from earlier!!!
oh no, jshackled
but I have a link, ha!
Prove it and take my Paradigm Shift from earlier!!!
Beelzebubs
Member
I'm weirded out that nobody is biting on Stealth Bastard Deluxe, it's a legit good game :S
Maybe Modbot just being slow.
Maybe Modbot just being slow.
FiveElementNinja
Member
For the new page. I have a giveaway with the following games:
- Hitman: Absolution
- Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition
- Just Cause 2
- Deus Ex: Human Revolution Director's Cut
- Warlock 2: The Exiled: Great Mage Edition
- Tropico 4: Steam Special Edition
It's the publishers that would be the problem, really, as always.
Dead Island Epidemic is actually kinda fun. It's just there are so many copies of it floating around that anybody who wants it probably already has it.
AcademicSaucer
Member
I trade you that for bad rats
Someone was asking for this just a week or two ago, haha.
Edit: The ability to add a game to multiple categories, that is. Not the browser stuff.
Massive beta update for the client
General
Major update of embedded web browser to increase performance, reliability, and to bring in various security fixes and functionality updates
Fixed in-game progress indicators for workshop downloads displaying incorrect percentages for compressed files
Library
Games can now be assigned to more than one category at a time
In desktop library details, list, and small views, games can be multiply selected using shift-click and control-click and certain operations can be performed on the group
Mac OS X
This update ends support for Mac OS X 10.5
Linux
Added support for entering custom network settings in Big Picture
Fixed audio being lost when alt-tabbing
Fixed crash when doing a voice chat if you did not have a network connection
Fixed launching SteamVR games
Big Picture
Updated various visual styles across Big Picture including focus treatments
Limit daisy wheel input to numeric entries where appropriate
Improved gamepad navigation through checkout
Fixed custom icons for streaming non-Steam games
Fixed crash when enabling parental controls
Fixed scroll bars disappearing on some EULA pages after scrolling to the left
Fixed daisy wheel adding multiple periods after pressing space twice to end a sentence
Fixed automatic capitalization getting stuck enabled in daisy wheel
Fixed a bug preventing the user from changing payment methods if their stored credit card has expired
In-Home Streaming
Added support for NVIDIA hardware encoding for D3D9+ games on GeForce 650+ cards and the latest beta NVIDIA driver (340.43)
Added support for horizontal mouse wheel scrolling
Fixed YUV colorspace conversion when using DXVA2 hardware decoding
Disabled vsync while streaming for a smoother capture framerate
Fixed games detecting both local and streaming controllers; streaming controllers take precedence if they are connected.
Fixed being able to scroll the right and bottom edges of a map in certain resolutions
Fixed Steam crash streaming from a host with an i5-3450 CPU
Fixed streaming games from Steam when it has been put in Windows XP compatibility mode
Steam Music Beta
Making Steam Music available to everyone using a Steam Beta Client
Introducing user interface to Steam Music for the Steam Client
Improved crawling of music files
Enabled media keyboard keys on Windows
Edit - I'm always too far behind yu guys these days
General
Major update of embedded web browser to increase performance, reliability, and to bring in various security fixes and functionality updates
Fixed in-game progress indicators for workshop downloads displaying incorrect percentages for compressed files
Library
Games can now be assigned to more than one category at a time
In desktop library details, list, and small views, games can be multiply selected using shift-click and control-click and certain operations can be performed on the group
Mac OS X
This update ends support for Mac OS X 10.5
Linux
Added support for entering custom network settings in Big Picture
Fixed audio being lost when alt-tabbing
Fixed crash when doing a voice chat if you did not have a network connection
Fixed launching SteamVR games
Big Picture
Updated various visual styles across Big Picture including focus treatments
Limit daisy wheel input to numeric entries where appropriate
Improved gamepad navigation through checkout
Fixed custom icons for streaming non-Steam games
Fixed crash when enabling parental controls
Fixed scroll bars disappearing on some EULA pages after scrolling to the left
Fixed daisy wheel adding multiple periods after pressing space twice to end a sentence
Fixed automatic capitalization getting stuck enabled in daisy wheel
Fixed a bug preventing the user from changing payment methods if their stored credit card has expired
In-Home Streaming
Added support for NVIDIA hardware encoding for D3D9+ games on GeForce 650+ cards and the latest beta NVIDIA driver (340.43)
Added support for horizontal mouse wheel scrolling
Fixed YUV colorspace conversion when using DXVA2 hardware decoding
Disabled vsync while streaming for a smoother capture framerate
Fixed games detecting both local and streaming controllers; streaming controllers take precedence if they are connected.
Fixed being able to scroll the right and bottom edges of a map in certain resolutions
Fixed Steam crash streaming from a host with an i5-3450 CPU
Fixed streaming games from Steam when it has been put in Windows XP compatibility mode
Steam Music Beta
Making Steam Music available to everyone using a Steam Beta Client
Introducing user interface to Steam Music for the Steam Client
Improved crawling of music files
Enabled media keyboard keys on Windows
Edit - I'm always too far behind yu guys these days
Fellow gaffers.
Is there any way anyone here can help me get my game to TotalBicuit?
We sent him a Steam code and we tweeted on our tweeter account a call out but we need more strenght, more numbers! We need MOAR!
It would be so awesome to get a "WTF is..." video of his to push sales.
Can you guys help out? I promise I will do another giveaway if we get there
Here is our Tweeter account - https://twitter.com/Nerd_Monkeys
Thanks!
Is there any way anyone here can help me get my game to TotalBicuit?
We sent him a Steam code and we tweeted on our tweeter account a call out but we need more strenght, more numbers! We need MOAR!
It would be so awesome to get a "WTF is..." video of his to push sales.
Can you guys help out? I promise I will do another giveaway if we get there
Here is our Tweeter account - https://twitter.com/Nerd_Monkeys
Thanks!
I tried to give a game more than one category, but it seems like nothing has changed.
EDIT: Oh ok, Steam beta changelog.
Beelzebubs
Member
You've still not claimed Bad rats from the giveaway I did last night?
0_o
One of the most desired feature finally here!
Cozmogramma
Member
I thought it was already taken but no, turns out it wasn't. Thank you!
Bring this to normal client, stat!
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
I wonder if their newest embedded browser supports the latest webkit javascript objects. If so this means a lot more functionality for those of you using the Enhanced Steam Standalone application.
Mavromatis
Member
My number one reason for not doing them too much is customization, that's why I was testing the comments while disaster stroke!
Freedom = $1.05
Banned
does it finally let me assign one than one game to a category at a time? Because going one by one is a choooooooorrreeeee
Agreed. It's pretty sad that nowadays you can't give away bundle leftovers without facing suspicion. It's starting to feel political.
I blame Snowball.
The update hasn't been pushed out just yet, and it's for the beta client, not the stable release.
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