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[Dice]

won't someone think of the demons

 

[crimsonheadGCN]

Anita doesn't like violet games and has said so multiple times since 2010. It is not surprising that her response to Doom and Fallout would be that.

 

[Chance Hale]

The final TOB boss fight is just more bullshit like in TNO, only worse.

Spoiler

You're stuck on a very small field with lots of nooks and crannies to get stuck on when strafing, with endless waves of enemies popping up, and then after a while the floor is on fire too.
And yes, I know you can sort of let the endboss take care of the (first waves of) enemies.

There is no art to this.

Use stealth, the boss is

Spoiler

blind

and will focus on the very loud enemies especially if you use grenades to move his attention. Attack while he is distracted. I played on the hardest difficulty and beat it within 2 or 3 tries.

 

[Jawmuncher]

The violence was about all doom had going for it though.

 

[Turfster]

Use stealth, the boss is

Spoiler

blind

and will focus on the very loud enemies especially if you use grenades to move his attention. Attack while he is distracted. I played on the hardest difficulty and beat it within 2 or 3 tries.

Yeah, I got him.

Spoiler

The fucking demon nazis in the third section are bullshit, though. They're sprinters, and only start screaming when they're hitting you, which earns you a boss-slap =p

 

[Anteater]

I don't know why her opinions are such a big deal, maybe you don't agree with her or whatever but it's not like it's that different than anyone here complaining about shit on gaf, she's offering a different perspective and I think that's fine, it's like people talking about "Nathan Drake is a mass murderer and kratos in GoW is a fucking dick" on gaf.

 

[zkylon]

We are talking about a shooter/RPG hybrid and an egoshooter. I mean there are still so many other games that arent about violence. Open steam, check all Puzzle platformers. I mean there is something for everyone.

Or play some VNs or otome games?

i made an edit on this on my post, but yeah, it's stupid to say that about doom

doom is a violent game and that's fine

but i don't think making it even more violent is necessary or good

The violence was about all doom had going for it though.

no way

doom had ground breaking level design and tech, as well as a very deliberate and insane "direction" or what you want to call it, which included the violence, the music, the "satanic imagery", etc.

I get her point. Some of the stuff in the Doom gameplay was just super ridiculous and violent for the sake of being violent. It got old really quickly.

As for the second tweet, I think her later tweet gives some context. She's talking about how the video game industry focuses so much on violence. In Fallout's case, they showed off the weapons and stuff, but not really any of the RPG aspects.

It's weird how so many people seem to overreact over a couple of tweets (which is ironic given the supposed "outrage culture" that many seem to complain about).

it's not weird, even if she does have a point it's 100% her fault for making baity tweets like those

she has a youtube channel, use that to discuss these things

don't make inflammatory remarks singling out beloved game series in 140 characters

Re-post the giveaway for those who missed it because of E3 hype.
Click here for beautiful redhead

wtf

 

[dex3108]

I get her point. Some of the stuff in the Doom gameplay was just super ridiculous and violent for the sake of being violent. It got old really quickly.

As for the second tweet, I think her later tweet gives some context. She's talking about how the video game industry focuses so much on violence. In Fallout's case, they showed off the weapons and stuff, but not really any of the RPG aspects.

Doom is definition of violent games and it was for years that kind of game. Why would they change it now?

And I don't know what she was watching but we saw character creation, interaction and other thing beside combat in Fallout presentation. I would dare to say that we got way more non violent things on screen than violence in Fallout presentation.

 

[Hero Prinny]

Wait, what, how, I don't even

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/610273457582944256

https://twitter.com/femfreq/status/610286429390811136

She finally lost it.

you're just giving her what she wants, attention. Just best to ignore it, and let her ramble on about everything.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

She was also rambling about D2 protagonists not being female only.

That's the thing with extreme positions. It's all or nothing.

 

[BinaryPork2737]

She was also rambling about D2 protagonists not being female only.

A bit sad that #Dishonored2 didn’t make the leap to an exclusively female lead but really pleased they're using Emily in marketing! #BE3

I was expecting something more controversial, but it's really not that bad.

I have to disagree with her though, because we also have the opportunity to play as old man Corvo. There aren't enough older playable characters in videogames.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

As for the second tweet, I think her later tweet gives some context. She's talking about how the video game industry focuses so much on violence. In Fallout's case, they showed off the weapons and stuff, but not really any of the RPG aspects.

But there are still so many games out there that do not focus on violence. I mean just open Steam and browse the games available there.

Her arguments are always one-sided. I remember in one of her videos she said "just a genderswap wouldnt solve these problems." Minutes later she proposed a game idea that actually was just Skyrim/Zelda where they swapped the genders of Zelda and Link...

 

[zkylon]

that emily amiibo doe

 

[Anteater]

that emily amiibo doe

dishonored one is the best one

 

[Kuroyume]

I get her point. Some of the stuff in the Doom gameplay was just super ridiculous and violent for the sake of being violent. It got old really quickly.

As for the second tweet, I think her later tweet gives some context. She's talking about how the video game industry focuses so much on violence. In Fallout's case, they showed off the weapons and stuff, but not really any of the RPG aspects.

It's weird how so many people seem to overreact over a couple of tweets (which is ironic given the supposed "outrage culture" that many seem to complain about).

It's like complaining about Mortal Kombat being too violent. Or arguing the Mario is too childish. It's just a stupid opinion. And I suppose the response has to do with people being tired of being told that things should only be the way one person sees them.

 

[NingenJanai]

Morning guys.

Dishonored 2? yay !

 

[Soyongdori]

The violence was about all doom had going for it though.

Exactly. I'm not understanding her logic. Does she want less violent inDoom? Or is she complaining about Doom's reputation of just being violent game and there is nothing much else in that game?

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

Extreme violence does detract. I had to laugh at some parts of bio infinity and last of us for its over the topness. It just took you out of the experience.

 

[Spring-Loaded]

Doom is definition of violent games and it was for years that kind of game. Why would they change it now?

Eh, saying "well, it's always been like that," doesn't refute anything. And her tweet wasn't a call to change Doom, just a possible (understandable) reason why people are bored or put off by it.

 

[dex3108]

you're just giving her what she wants, attention. Just best to ignore it, and let her ramble on about everything.

Generally I don't care about her or her opinions but lately she is talking nonsense.

 

[Hero Prinny]

that emily amiibo doe

the fallout one cmon, beth. just let me buy it.

Generally I don't care about her or her opinions but lately she is talking nonsense.

like i said, just ignore it. keep scrolling or better yet, can you block people on twitter? i don't use that nonsense so I wouldn't know. if you can just block her or something. Everytime I see a thread about her I just ignore it cause its always about something dumb.

 

[Anteater]

Now compare to the new Unreal Tournament

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9dQFSIJhOQ

Like night and day, Watching that doom demo was as exciting as watching my autoclicker farm in that monster clicker game.

my friend actually told me the walking speed is too fast in doom

i don't know what universe I'm in right now

 

[dex3108]

that emily amiibo doe

I want those and I generally don't like figurines

 

[TheAutomator]

im more offended at the lack of new guns in DOOM

 

[Dongs Macabre]

Doom is definition of violent games and it was for years that kind of game. Why would they change it now?

And I don't know what she was watching but we saw character creation, interaction and other thing beside combat in Fallout presentation. I would dare to say that we got way more non violent things on screen than violence in Fallout presentation.

I mean, there's violence, and then there's whatever the hell that gameplay footage was.
There wasn't a whole lot of RPG stuff in the footage, though, which I guess is what she means by "creative and humanizing interactions".

it's not weird, even if she does have a point it's 100% her fault for making baity tweets like those

she has a youtube channel, use that to discuss these things

don't make inflammatory remarks singling out beloved game series in 140 characters

Yeah, it's kind of baity, but it gets the message out there and at least people are discussing it, like with the Witcher 3 race stuff.

It's like complaining about Mortal Kombat being too violent. Or arguing the Mario is too childish. It's just a stupid opinion. And I suppose the response has to do with people being tired of being told that things should only be the way one person sees them.

But when you shut someone's opinion down as "stupid", you're just doing the same thing you're accusing them of doing. It's fine if you disagree, but don't just say their opinion is dumb.

 

[Vazra]

im more offended at the lack of new guns in DOOM

Also no Warren.

 

[Salsa]

im more offended at the lack of new guns in DOOM

the most offensive thing was the plasma rifle sounding terrible and having visually no feedback

 

[texhnolyze]

I guess no one else want third person view for Dishonored games.

 

[Atraveller]

I was expecting something more controversial, but it's really not that bad.

I have to disagree with her though, because we also have the opportunity to play as old man Corvo. There aren't enough older playable characters in videogames.

Only the wording made it sound ok, she's supposed to be the equal right promoter in gaming, what she said is unacceptable.

 

[Anteater]

Extreme violence does detract. I had to laugh at some parts of bio infinity and last of us for its over the topness. It just took you out of the experience.

gotta murder a whole town of people whenever you bump into someone

 

[Bigby]

From Bethblog:

Our #BE3 Showcase was all about games, but Pete Hines also delivered the first information on the new home for all-things Bethesda on the net, and it’s appropriately-titled, Bethesda.net!

Stay tuned in the coming months for more details on the site, which will be the home of featured content you’ve come to expect here on Bethesda Blog, revamped community forums, and powerful tools for sharing game stats and content.

 

[Vazra]

gotta murder a whole town of people whenever you bump into someone

 

[dex3108]

I guess no one else want third person view for Dishonored games.

Nope we need first person stealth games. We already have Splinter Cell and MGS for TPS stealth

 

[Sch1sm]

gotta murder a whole town of people whenever you bump into someone

Sneaking is overrated anyway, right?

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Eh, saying "well, it's always been like that," doesn't refute anything. And her tweet wasn't a call to change Doom, just a possible (understandable) reason why people are bored or put off by it.

But what does she want then? I do not understand it.

Like I said. If she does not like such games, there are so many alternatives.
If she does not want Doom to change, then do not complain.
If she wants Doom to change, then just say it.

If she says the industry is too much focused on violence, that is a bad argument though, because evidence (hundreds of games that arent) shows that this isnt the case. If she says the most popular games are too much focused on Violence, that also isnt really true, since somehow Nintendo games are still really popular.

So I do not get what she wants or I just do not agree with her argument.

 

[Shadownet]

So Sunless Sea seems like a lot of reading to do..

 

[LurkerPrime]

So Sunless Sea seems like a lot of reading to do..

That's half the reason to play it, so yeah. Really sharp writing, fortunately.

 

[Turfster]

So Sunless Sea seems like a lot of reading to do..

That's most of the reason I want to play it sometime.


In Dishonored 2 Emily and Corvo will have different skillsets.

 

[Anteater]

Sneaking is overrated anyway, right?

to be honest i'd choose to murder a whole town of people over sneaking lol, i like sneaking as an option when i'm sick of killing

 

[texhnolyze]

Nope we need first person stealth games. We already have Splinter Cell and MGS for TPS stealth

But those are modern settings games.. and we already have Deus Ex for first person stealth.
Well, there goes my hope then.

 

[AbundantChoice]

So Sunless Sea seems like a lot of reading to do..

Sunless Sea is amazing, but reading is the supermajority of the game. The rest of the mechanics are just there to get you from one piece of text to the next.

 

[Uzzy]

A new Dishonoured game, and Bethesda still can't spell it right. Rookie mistake I guess, though to be fair Firaxis still haven't spelled Civilisation right and they've had nine of those.

 

[LurkerPrime]

I should clarify that by "really sharp" writing in Sunless Sea, I actually mean "pretty much the best in the gaming industry." The sheer artistry put into it is amazing; Failbetter are writing gods.

Buy Sunless Sea.

 

[A Fish Aficionado]

A new Dishonoured game, and Bethesda still can't spell it right. Rookie mistake I guess, though to be fair Firaxis still haven't spelled Civilisation right and they've had nine of those.

It's not fibre,centre, man

 

[dex3108]

But those are modern settings games.. and we already have Deus Ex for first person stealth.
Well, there goes my hope then.

I think that Dishonored would feel awkward in third person. Not to mention that they would need to do way more things for "optional" feature.

 

[Amzin]

I'm psyched enough for FO4 to make up for you other haters.

Also pretty excited about DO2, really enjoyed the first.

I could never get into Doom 3 so meh on Doom 4. It looks alright honestly but maybe at a discount, whereas the other two are (pre)day-1's for me.

 

[Jawmuncher]

i made an edit on this on my post, but yeah, it's stupid to say that about doom

doom is a violent game and that's fine

but i don't think making it even more violent is necessary or good



no way

doom had ground breaking level design and tech, as well as a very deliberate and insane "direction" or what you want to call it, which included the violence, the music, the "satanic imagery", etc.


it's not weird, even if she does have a point it's 100% her fault for making baity tweets like those

she has a youtube channel, use that to discuss these things

don't make inflammatory remarks singling out beloved game series in 140 characters



wtf

I'm talking about the doom we just saw not OG doom. I love OG doom

 

[Soyongdori]

that emily amiibo doe

Where can I get this?

 

[LurkerPrime]

Where can I get this?

By attending the Bethesda E3 conference that ended an hour or so ago. Or by paying attention to Bethesda's Twitch account. I think they're having some giveaways through there.

 

[Shadownet]

That's half the reason to play it, so yeah. Really sharp writing, fortunately.

That's most of the reason I want to play it sometime.

So basically I'm paying for a book. I mean I like reading as much as the next guy. But this feel like it's too much reading.