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STEAM | June 2016 - Dear Valve, E3 is here, please release Ricochet 2
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So you're saying Sega is known for good business decisions?
PepsimanVsJoe
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I think part of the problem with porting Space Channel 5 part 1 is that the levels are comprised almost entirely of FMV. You'd probably be forced to run the game at some 1992-era resolution just so it won't look like complete shit.
Bad Rats is like one of those childhood diseases that you get once and become immune to. I've already been Ratsed, so I'm safe sticking my hand into the plague jar.
At least until Bad Rats Show hits, anyway... *shudder*
Couldn't they convert the animation data from the video sequences and render those in real time? A little work, sure, but...
...aw, who am I kidding? Sega can't even bother keeping the source code for their games, let alone animation data for prerendered video.
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The Bit.Trip Runner games are fun.
Superstar Danceclub is a playstation one port and also pretty fun, although a bit short.
Sadly Steam in general is still a bit lacking when it comes to rhythm games. Hope that changes soon as it is one of my favourite genres.
Don't even mention the rockband crowdfunding
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So FFXV is running @ 800p on Xbox one. Not only are they releasing it on a console with barely any jrpg fans (and will sell terribly as a result) but they also are dragging performance of the game back 10 years into the past.
FFS Square. How can they not announce a pc version and release it day n date? Makes me never want to support such an incompetent and out of touch company again.
It does seem like a very bad decision, agreed.
Because PC's always been a secondary platform for the Japanese development side of S-E? Them handling things this way doesn't surprise me, and I'm not sure why anyone else would've expected any different.
AHA-Lambda
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jesus christ, final episode out today and its 2/3 off
Plus its been bundled before and its a freebie on gog just now. This thing must've tanked hard.
And tbh its deserved, its such a step down from the previous games, and I have no faith they'll satisfactorily wrap up the story in the last episode cos lord knows bugger all has really happened in the previous 4
People overestimate the value (and volume) of double dippers on dedicated core sites like this.
It's a tiny niche. It can support something like Neptunia, and every once in a while something like Rockstar and Dark Souls comes out, but the majority of AAA games that sell well on PC are day and date, more or less.
It's a tiny niche. It can support something like Neptunia, and every once in a while something like Rockstar and Dark Souls comes out, but the majority of AAA games that sell well on PC are day and date, more or less.
I'm waiting for episode 5 but is not released on Steam yet, only on GOG. :S
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I thought FF was one of those, guess I'm wrong.
I wish I understood anything about game performance. I waded into the world of Skyrim mods for a few hours yesterday. All I really put on was:
HD textures
Better looking people and hair
Realvision ENB
I have a 6700K and 2xGTX780
At 1440P it was at 100% GPU on both cards and struggled to stay at around 50fps
At 1080P it was at around 75% GPU on both cards and stuck at 60fps pretty consistently
GPU usage was quite low and GPU memory was around 2GB (out of 3 available). Why the big difference? I certainly don't know.
HD textures
Better looking people and hair
Realvision ENB
I have a 6700K and 2xGTX780
At 1440P it was at 100% GPU on both cards and struggled to stay at around 50fps
At 1080P it was at around 75% GPU on both cards and stuck at 60fps pretty consistently
GPU usage was quite low and GPU memory was around 2GB (out of 3 available). Why the big difference? I certainly don't know.
Not sure why this is confusing.
The game is capped at 60 so it is not needing to use 100 percent at 1080, and 1440p is nearly 2x 1080, so of course it will run slightly worse if it's pinging your card at 100 percent and can't keep up.
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Yep.
With a day and date release you can ask a higher price and use the marketing you have for your console version anyway.
With a late port you'll have to sell it cheaper and either finance new marketing or do a stealth release. I really doubt double dippers can offset this.
Well, you're rendering 75% more pixels at 1440p so it's quite more heavy.
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I was just looking over MangaGamer's twitter and it sounds like higurashi ep 3 is getting released early, in fact it's coming tonight ^_^
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/743694905000624128
https://twitter.com/MangaGamer/status/743694905000624128
Well, just that I'm throwing quite a bit of power at a pretty old game. I didn't think going from 1080->1440 should require that much additional power, but I also don't know what kind of processing power requirements ENB adds to the game or how bigger textures affect things.
I don't have a great understanding of which levers cause the greatest additional power requirements.
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Old game or not, 1080 -> 1440 is a huge jump in the number of pixels being rendered on the screen at once. With 1080p, you're pushing 2,073,600 pixels per frame. With 1440p you're pushing 3,686,400. That's in increase of 1,612,800 pixels (78% more than 1080p, almost double!).
A general rule of thumb with 1440p gaming is that you'll need twice the horsepower as you previously needed for 1080p, and that's assuming the game in question is optimized well enough and supports rendering at the higher resolution.
The forthcoming console ports are most likely based on the existing x86 port too.
Interesting. If my 1080 would ever ship I could compare how it does at 1440p vs. the SLI setup.
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We will get our end-of-DLC-lifecycle FFXV at a sub $60 price and like it.
Any reason to believe that or just wishful thinking? I'd be all over that.
I agree double dippers are a minimal value, but PC is a long tail sales base, not front loaded. So over time double dippers become more significant. As for marketing, most late releases coincide with a "game of the year" type complete package that is being advertised anyway, plus the word of mouth of the game existing prior is just as valuable (probably more valuable) than short term advertising anyway.
But the reality, this is all supposition. We don't have real numbers, we don't know profit margins. We know expectations of day one releases are higher. We know the PC market is still vastly smaller than the console market, with a few exceptions.
Personally, I think late releases are better for consumers, and my feeling is they are just as good as day one releases for companies in the long run, but I don't have the numbers to back that up. I'd love to see a good analysis of it done but the game industry is so stingy with numbers that seems unlikely to ever happen.
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It's true sega has been having a few years with their financials were not satisfactory to them, yet they manage to cover that in following years.
Seeing as they hadn't gone bankrupt yet and that SEGA of Japan doesn't find its financials in a very bad position, they would have to be doing something right with their business decisions.
Not that you care, cuz really all we care about is getting more of those SEGA classics already.
A release of the first Space Channel game wouldn't even cause a ripple-
In the 5 years since its release, SC5 Part 2 has 250K owners
http://steamspy.com/app/71260
This is from being bundled as well. The release of the first game would not be a major deal breaker of an form, though it'd be nice to be able to preserve it via Steam.
Interesting, but the game got released on PS2 right? How does it look emulated at least?
I tried playing one of the older Tex Murphy games and the cutscenes went loco.
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The garbage dumb is the right place for this.
Also I discovered those two games by Digital Homicide on Greenlight:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=660170335
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=377768006
They give a pretty much accurate status of this software house.
I kinda enjoyed what I played of Ninja Blade (dumb fun with really, really over-the-top QTEs), but the real dealbreaker for me was the lack of any mid-level save points- and the levels aren't particularly short.
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Just need to finish Root Double, Witcher 3 xpac 2 and I'll be ready for Umineko and 999 Steam whenever they release.
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Nice work! I got a few new games finished last weekend, which (sadly) only brought me up to being current if I'm going for 1 game a week this year. I'm still determined to finish the challenge again though.
Black Soma
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Oh, nice. Was expecting to wait much longer.
Yes, there's that at least. Gaming became really bad in a matter of a day or two, though. Constant freezes of 5-30 seconds, missing sound effects and music, lag...
One annoying part will be reinstalling and redownloading everything back. Like that massive The Witcher 3 download... although, if this hdd will still work after receive the new one I guess I could copy paste the game folder and hope it will work fine.
Moving data from my faulty 2TB drive to my new 4TB one.
One file so far was not readable. Hopefully no more than that. :|
texhnolyze
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As far as I remember, there was never a FF PC port that was released day and date with console. Heck, even the FFIX on PC was delayed for the sake of mobile release first. FF on PC is always aimed at double dippers. With the exception of the mmo ones, of course.
TheLetdown
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I was wondering why I deleted Hearthstone from my phone, since it's such a polished, deep, easy in/out experience.
So, I redownloaded it and remembered exactly how lopsided it can be when you're working with a free deck. Ugh.
Hand of Fate is pretty good, though? How long do the matches run? Hearthstone's matches are short by nature, but I remember some Magic: The Gathering (actual cards, not digital versions) matches lasting obscenely long with reshuffle cards and healing.
So, I redownloaded it and remembered exactly how lopsided it can be when you're working with a free deck. Ugh.
Hand of Fate is pretty good, though? How long do the matches run? Hearthstone's matches are short by nature, but I remember some Magic: The Gathering (actual cards, not digital versions) matches lasting obscenely long with reshuffle cards and healing.
See, this would be a good move and one that I would approve of.
Will get DR4 when it releases on Steam.
Black Soma
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Steam will download it as soon as you try to start the game though, right?
Also, I'm not entirely sure how the Steam Cloud works. All the games that support it will download the save files along with the game itself, I'm assuming? And in this case, if I start a backed up game will it also download the saves from the cloud as soon as I try to boot it?
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