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STEAM | March 2016 - This thread is badass
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shortsFortallPeople
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ROTTR loses 15 fps on my 980 when using dx12 wtf
jediyoshi
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UnderWaterTree
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Come on, Steam. I know I neglected you the past month, but now you're just acting childish.
i've honestly started thinking that preloading games is not worth the time it takes to unpack them
it's so frustrating having the game downloaded but nope, gotta wait like two hours for that thing to finish -__-
Come on, Steam. I know I neglected you the past month, but now you're just acting childish.
The initial unpack time is almost always "screwy" as oftentimes Steam has to first update the data. You've probably noticed by now that it's dropped to something more reasonable.
An SSD definitely helps. I've never had to wait more than 10~15 minutes to unpack a current-gen game.
Crimsonclaw111
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?Well, I guess it's technically not May yet, so Hitman can have its brief time
Dark Souls 3 is out in April.
jediyoshi
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I hope people didn't expect miracles. Quick browse through Steam community forums and just about everyone is reporting performance loss going from DX11 to DX12, regardless of GPU. Same situation with Ashes of the Singularity although AMD's DX11 drivers were so crippled that there was in fact performance increase in some/many situations for AMD cards. Mostly performance loss for Nvidia cards though.
But really, DX11 was exactly the same when it was released even if it was completely different situation. Even if devs added no new features, just DX11 support to an existing game, fps tanked really hard. I remember Company of Heroes going from like 120+ fps to 30-40 going from DX9 to DX11. Looked exactly the same, performance was way worse.
nightstorm
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You should get up to 30% better performance with dx12 ,but looks like you get down 30%
freshVeggie
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The new DX12 patch adds a benchmark-tool comparable to the one in TR13. Sadly when going back to the DX11 version (by opting in beta branch 629_3) the ingame benchmark is not available. Hope Nixxes will add the ingame benchmark to the DX11 branch soon. Would have made for some better comparison
Anyhow, I did some benches with following settings. Triple Buffering, FXAA and Exclusive Fullscreen (gave an extra frame).
As mentioned, there is no benchmark to better compare the DX11 version, so I did 4 similar tests where I loaded a save and fast traveled to both the Soviet Installation and Geothermal Valley where I ran the same route. And that showed what the bench did not. The game runs better and smoother on DX11. On either texture settings.
On DX11 Geothermal Valley was an almost perfect 60 lock and in the Siberian Installation it varied between 52-60. Conversely on DX12 the Geothermal Valley stayed consistently under 55 (45-55) and in the Siberian Installation even worse, between 40-55.
It's nice to test new tech but RotTR is at this moment best advised to be played on the DX11 beta branch.
Anyhow, I did some benches with following settings. Triple Buffering, FXAA and Exclusive Fullscreen (gave an extra frame).
I did multiple tests but only changed Texture Quality between "High" (left) and "Very High" (right).
Not a huge difference in the benchmark it seems but what's not visible is that on Very High texture quality there was a whole lot more stuttering and hitching.
As mentioned, there is no benchmark to better compare the DX11 version, so I did 4 similar tests where I loaded a save and fast traveled to both the Soviet Installation and Geothermal Valley where I ran the same route. And that showed what the bench did not. The game runs better and smoother on DX11. On either texture settings.
On DX11 Geothermal Valley was an almost perfect 60 lock and in the Siberian Installation it varied between 52-60. Conversely on DX12 the Geothermal Valley stayed consistently under 55 (45-55) and in the Siberian Installation even worse, between 40-55.
It's nice to test new tech but RotTR is at this moment best advised to be played on the DX11 beta branch.
Nope. In DX12 both "open-world" areas run worse for me compared to DX11.
The new DX12 patch adds a benchmark-tool comparable to the one in TR13. Sadly when going back to the DX11 version (by opting in beta branch 629_3) the ingame benchmark is not available. Hope Nixxes will add the ingame benchmark to the DX11 branch soon. Would have made for some better comparison
You can disable DX12 in the launcher, I believe.
shortsFortallPeople
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Believe it or not, I gained about 8-9 fps by switching from smaa to fxaa on dx12.
It still performs worse than dx11, which gets me 59 fps on the benchmark
Why are you using SMAA in Rotter anyway? That implementation is turd.
freshVeggie
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Oh? Let's see, let's see then. Off to more testing.
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
It was like not even a difference in performance for me so I just left it on
ramoisdead
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When I say turd, I mean FXAA looks better, which is quite the achievement.
that's a nice discount, i think i got enough for tits 2 on my wallet
i think i'll bite
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
Weird, Hitman only let's me select Low for texture quality
Se7enSword
Banned
Excellent price!
On sale on GOG too!
On sale on GOG too!
Excellent price!
On sale on GOG too!
So, that what that tweet was on about?
How much VRAM do you have?
it's locked to low for 2GB vram and below
it's a good low, tho. Looks decent at least
waitin for an .ini fix
that's just weird then
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
980 4 gbs
ramoisdead
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Probably. The series is on sale at Steam, GOG, Humble Store, EU PS Store and US PS Store.
XSEED really wants TC in the west to come to fruition.
Large Professor
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InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
FC might
the twist though will be so good you'll have to buy SC no matter what ^_^
ramoisdead
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Just know that it's a slow burn. Don't judge it yet from the first 2 hours or so.
Then something is wrong. See on Steam Community does anybody else has same issue.
BTW this is current DX12 summary
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO-jpFclvSA
Large Professor
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Don't worry, I've played J-RPGs in the past.
It's completely worth $10 FWIW.
ramoisdead
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Seeing as FC and SC took a hell of a lot of time to localize, you might not see them get a heavy discount for quite a while. After all, they are trying to recoup on the labor spent.
it's a very animu jrpg with average combat and story, although the characters and their antics are really enjoyable
i enjoyed it but i also think it's not by any means a noteworthy jrpg
TheAutomator
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Se7enSword
Banned
Inevitably Trails in the Sky The Third
Large Professor
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FC is only 7.99 in Europe btw. It's really nice to get a better deal than NA once in a while.
Praise the skies.
It's hard to believe just yesterday we are getting one step closer to getting the whole series in English. Just two games left and the upcoming Cold Steel 3.
Never been a better time to be an old-school RPG fan on PC!
freshVeggie
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Wow, how did I not see those options. It can be disabled in both the launcher and ingame but you need to restart the game.
Either way, here the results. DX11 left, DX12 right.
Not a difference to my earlier testing. Benchmark again doesn't show how the game performs worse in DX12 with a lot of stutter, I assume frame-pacing issues.
I did the same ingame test from before as well and in DX11 the game has a 5-10 frames advantage and feels smooth.
One thing to note is that RTTS doesn't hook in the game even if DX12 is disabled. It does when on the beta branch though.
From what I read on the web, whether it is DX12 or Vulkan, it's not smart to expect devs and games taking full advantage this early in the new techs life, so I'm not disappointed rather surprised that so early on even, it works "well".
shortsFortallPeople
Banned
Hitman looking like a hot mess right now. The benchmark just crashed lol
FUCK YEAH!!!
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