It was made for all action game fans afterall.
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It was made for all action game fans afterall.
haha i didn't know angry video game nerd has other short "let's play videos", was watching him play godzilla on the ps4, the dude is genuinely out of touch with modern games, he's confused and complained about getting a PS+ pop up when he tries to access the VS mode and he couldn't even figure out if the game has local MP or not, they then complain about all the tutorial pop ups in the game and other stuff. It's like old man yells at cloud stuff but it's fascinating.
man I wonder what it'd be like if i don't keep up with video games for a decade or two.
man I wonder what it'd be like if i don't keep up with video games for a decade or two.
corrosivefrost
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Definitely not. :lol
As for the part of your post I did not quote, it sounds like EviLore should be knocking on your door and an anointing you to your proper place as a moderator at his side.
I could think of Pokemon and the souls series, but thats about it.
Leafhopper
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No problem, I never know what to put in there.
Thanks for the giveaway
Ah, you are very welcome!
If a game is mainstream, I'd argue you should be able to pick, say, 500 people off the street randomly and at least one of them will have heard of it.
Certainly works for CoD, Minecraft and Mario.
Probably works for Final Fantasy and Starcraft.
Certainly doesn't work for Trails.
Jawmuncher
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Don't know why people take what he says seriously. Dude has Epic Mikey 1 & 2 under his belt.
He made mickeys epic, so his opinion is obviously worthless, nevermind the other games he made.
€: Jaw, pls. :3
Jawmuncher
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I want to argue in a sense that yeah kind of. You can't complain about modern games so easily when that's what you have on offer. Yeah his stuff in the past is great, but that's where it's at the past.
corrosivefrost
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Mario RPGs, Souls games maybe.
"JRPG" category was always a fucked up to me. Some say are mechanics and some say they have to be from Japan.
I wouldn't consider the souls games mainstream and not niche yet. And I definitely wouldn't put them in the JRPG category.
Mario RPG are still kind of niche.
I think Durante has the right of it here.
but that's being popular not mainstream. It's what I'm arguing about right from the beginning.
Tizoc
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Pokemon is a good one, forgot about that.
Probably more mainstream than Final Fantasy at this point.
it's for the greater good
Dsyndrome
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Leftover cred from the original Deus Ex.
freshVeggie
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Leafhopper
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Jawmuncher
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Yeah not saying they were complete crap or anything, but people take what he says far too serious. Yes he will have cred everlasting from Deus Ex. But what I said I think still counts.
If he's so upset over modern games, how about he leads from example rather than commentary? Though with his teaching position at least maybe he can get his points across in better ways.
LurkerPrime
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So is zkylon the Arthas or Bolvar in this JaseC situation?
Konami doesn't care what you do so long as you're engaging with their monetisation schemes the right way.
After Deus Ex, his work pretty much tanked hard, so I also rarely takes what he says these days as anything of massive importance. Besides, it's not like one person is responsible for an entire game, so maybe he get's too much credit for a lot of the older games too
Se7enSword
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I assume those new measures by them weren't effective?
There really is no point in FOBs. Not like it'll affect you for MGO.
Sgt.Pepper
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What's your reasoning for this? Just curious.
corrosivefrost
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This is true. When random people are naming their dogs Pikachu and have never played the game or watched the show, your franchise isn't niche anymore.
One of the problems for FF is that there really isn't any consistency from game to game. The characters and worlds were just one and done for the longest time. But it had enough recognition that Square made The Spirits Within.
Spring-Loaded
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Until they start randomly using people's bases for MGO matches
i actually haven't read jasec's reasoning of why he turned into angry bird (i'm sorry jasec, lol), but i agree he should go back to being saoirse if it means i'll stop being confused about all these saoirse avatars and silly drama from people who don't even contribute in this thread in the first place
I mean it's like watching zkylon being forced to use the shift key
Well I get the point of saying Spector is only as good as his last game but he's been part of the organising committee for GDC for nigh on 15 plus years and has regularly talked about game design with some fascinating insight for more than some folks at the studios he's brought up have been working in the industry. On the subject he brings up, how you can have an adaptive and player created narrative only in games as opposed to other media we consume he's kind of already made the cheat sheet in Deus Ex. Not to say that making a strictly linear story is a bad thing but you can do that in television, in books, in a radio play if you want. Most of the mass market ones that do supposedly offer some form of player agency are so flipping binary it's kind of insulting to most people's intelegence. Actually fuck I'm goi g to get some cross over here with the niche conversation!
No anime looks I suppose.
#bringbacksaoirse
i must try this
Referring to a genre by its country of origin rather than its content would be the only genre in existence that subscribes to that definition.
Usage in that matter would also be completely arbitrary, what is and what isn't a JRPG at that point? Literally anything made in Japan with some vague RPG mechanics is automatically a JRPG? It's just an absurd way to give something a definition.
Example: Jamaicans start playing country music it is defined as Reggae. The Lord of the Rings: The Third Age isn't a JRPG because it wasn't made in Tokyo?
I like doing fobs. The fact is, all fobs are the same. No variation at all. When you learn to infiltrate a level 45 fob, all fobs will be the same. I just hope Konami will unlock the hidden ending soon, I got a bit bored.
I can't speak for Kojima (never cared for MGS), but he has had many games released to critical acclaim. As for Spector, I'd say Deus Ex counts for 10, it's that good. And Levine does have Thief, System Shock 2 and BioShock under his belt.
I'm with him. Mechanically and design-wise, the Souls series has more in common with WRPGs than it does with stuff like Final Fantasy or any other traditional JRPGs. Just categorizing any RPG made in Japan as a JRPG isn't particularly helpful or meaningful. I think of it more as "the kind of RPG that originated from" rather than "an RPG made in".
Sgt.Pepper
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Also, it kinda went over my head, but Bowser's Inside Story sold like almost 5 millions. That's not niche.
I did say that "JRPG" is an awkwardly defined term. Some people do consider it a term for certain mechanics etc. I really can't get more solid than that because it is something that I never pay much attention to it unless we are currently discussing.
You need people like Aeana to help you with that.
corrosivefrost
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Souls games are focused mainly on action/combat and while the world and story are present, there aren't really any of the hallmarks you see in games like final fantasy, trails, tales, star ocean, etc.
For me JRPGs have a party and some sort of villain usually. They generally go with some menu/turn based combat, but not always. Just cause it's made something was made in Japan doesn't lump it there for me. I usually categorize by the dominant style/genre a game displays and the souls games just don't fit what I think of when I think JRPG.
someguyinahat
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Its a NRPG
nightstorm
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You mean in win10 th2 November update ?
who what why
jrpg has long not meant japanese rpgs but more like linear combat and story oriented rpgs.
dark souls is more of an action rpg thing
the more ppl that switches their avatar, the louder our voice, the sooner everything's back to normal
#bringbacksaoirse
damn you payed attention to the troll
we were so close
now he'll make some more really annoying purposedly inflammatory comments!!
Empty Space
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While I think people put way too much stock into the opinions of all three of those guys, to say that any of them have only made one good game is being overly dismissive of their accomplishment. All three of them have one game and series that people recognize them for, but they've all worked on wildly different stuff that has largely been pretty good if not great. They've all have made games that were incredibly promising as well the didn't pan out to be what people expected.
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