Chairmanchuck
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Apparently the Ethan Carter devs are GGers.
Adr1ft is developed by Adam Orth "Why would I want to live there".
The other one I dont know.
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Apparently the Ethan Carter devs are GGers.
Adr1ft is developed by Adam Orth "Why would I want to live there".
The other one I dont know.
Regginator
Member
Ouch, thanks! The first two I can definitely understand boycotting. But did that Orth fellow say anything else except advocating for DRM? Granted, "why would you live there?" is very narrow minded thing to say, but it feels rather small compared to being a bigot and GG supporter.
Phawx
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The Ender series is hilarious. The first book is good and the second book is okay. It seems like when Orson Scott Card got greenlit to do a third and fourth book he decided that was his best time to stand on his soapbox and inject his politics in his books.
The line in the third book was along the lines of, "it was proven that society worked better when a man and woman waited to have sex until after they were married."
It's so cringey when authors/creative types shim their politics into their stories when it's such a hamfisted way of pseudo propaganda / wish fulfillment.
If you are going to inject your way of thinking into games/books/movies/stories, it better have a place in the beginning/middle/end of the story otherwise it's going to stand out like a sore thumb and it deserves to be criticized.
Edit: I will say that if you avoid playing Shadow Complex because of it's relationship to Orson Scott Card, you're spiting yourself. It's an excellent short metroidvania when I can honestly only remember the gameplay and none of the story. Truth be told, I don't actually know what the story of Shadow Complex *is*. It's a fun-ass game though.
The line in the third book was along the lines of, "it was proven that society worked better when a man and woman waited to have sex until after they were married."
It's so cringey when authors/creative types shim their politics into their stories when it's such a hamfisted way of pseudo propaganda / wish fulfillment.
If you are going to inject your way of thinking into games/books/movies/stories, it better have a place in the beginning/middle/end of the story otherwise it's going to stand out like a sore thumb and it deserves to be criticized.
Edit: I will say that if you avoid playing Shadow Complex because of it's relationship to Orson Scott Card, you're spiting yourself. It's an excellent short metroidvania when I can honestly only remember the gameplay and none of the story. Truth be told, I don't actually know what the story of Shadow Complex *is*. It's a fun-ass game though.
The Dear Leader
Banned
No money for shitbags.
The best way to get these games.
pettiness.jpeg lol
AcademicSaucer
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No money for shitbags.
The best way to get these games.
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hardcastlemccormick
Banned
I would only drop the price down to zero if I had zero intention of ever playing the game.
I didn't buy the second tier of that bundle because I refuse to play Ethan Carter. Maybe if I really wanted to play Adrift I would buy it and never use the Ethan Carter key...oh well.
I didn't buy the second tier of that bundle because I refuse to play Ethan Carter. Maybe if I really wanted to play Adrift I would buy it and never use the Ethan Carter key...oh well.
It's hard being a member of the Authoritarian Left!
LurkerPrime
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Klling Floor is similar to L4D. Multiplayer co-op is the only sensible way to play, with a story so light as to be nonexistent. KF's big difference is how progression-based and class-focused it is.
jediyoshi
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No money for shitbags.
The best way to get these games.
hoo boy, enjoying any other media must get real tough
Wok
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I don't understand the idea behind boycotting a work which does not hold any political view for the sole reason that one of creators holds different political views or controversial/extremist ideas.
If you boycott, you want to send a message to a state or a company, by saying "hey, you should change your policy, otherwise I stop buying your goods".
It does not work with individuals, you should not try to change ideas with money, the tools should be debate and education. People will still have their extremist ideas but will just keep that secret.
Yes, that makes more sense. So you set the slider to zero, because you have no intent of playing the game for an accumulation of reasons (no interest in that game, backlog, not supporting the studio, etc.).
If you boycott, you want to send a message to a state or a company, by saying "hey, you should change your policy, otherwise I stop buying your goods".
It does not work with individuals, you should not try to change ideas with money, the tools should be debate and education. People will still have their extremist ideas but will just keep that secret.
Yes, that makes more sense. So you set the slider to zero, because you have no intent of playing the game for an accumulation of reasons (no interest in that game, backlog, not supporting the studio, etc.).
morningbus
Serious Sam is a wicked gahbidge series for chowdaheads.
PLASTICA-MAN
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I didn't know you need to pay extra fees to play VR versions of some games.
Even so 1 person on each team is a bit of a fool it means all the devs are associated as being dirtbags who don't deserve to get paid?
I mean each to their own for where your money goes on those bundles but its the lamest way to go about it.
uncredited male
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I wouldn't play a game made by Hitler.
Well not if it was an RTS at least.
Well not if it was an RTS at least.
Someone should make a Concentration Camp Simulator. Then try to sell it in Germany, I hear these types of games are huge there.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
It's not a boycott, it's that I have no interest in playing a writing and story driven game from the mind of someone who thinks that Gamergate was actually a bunch of pretty cool dudes who were just speaking the truth to the powerful totalitarian Liberals who didn't want to hear it.
I love story driven games and walking sims, and at first Ethan Carter looked right up my alley, but now I genuinely don't even want to see what the game looks like. I'm completely uninterested.
Do Tales From the Borderlands next, it's the GOAT of Telletale's stuff.
Wok
Member
Yes, it is the same idea which is behind morningbus' motivation.
What I don't understand is more of this kind of opinion:
So one gets the Steam key for free, maybe even activates the game on Steam, which does not give any revenue to the creators, but still increases their stats on SteamSpy and helps them get future investors. And the game might even be played in the end.
There is no impact whatsoever: I doubt the devs would notice much of a difference, and even if they do, it won't change their views. So It is just providing a good feeling to the consumer, but it is meaningless in the end.
Alright, I get it now. I still find it a bit irrational in the case that the consumer is still interested in playing the game.
I understand it now.
Actually, now that I think about it, I did not buy Gremlins Inc. and the main reason is that the game has always-online-DRM. Now, if the game were to be featured in a Humble bundle, would I play with the slider? I don't know.
Lashley
Why does he wear the mask!?
Yep, already got it installed, plan on playing it whilst I wait between Batman episodes
Hope you enjoy it, it's a real hidden gem.
hardcastlemccormick
Banned
I can see it where the opinions of the game creator drive down the value you would give to it so much that it would only be worth a few pennies to you, if that.
Like, if a game has terrible DRM, that drives down the value of the game. Lots of people in the Denuvo Dishonored 2 threads saying they'll wait for the game to be $20. That's just a personal value thing. It's not about boycott, it's about how much something is worth to you.
In my opinion, a game worth that little to you isn't worth playing, but that's just how I see it.
Sometimes it's not about sending a message. It's just about you and your buying habits.
didn't know, that's unfortunate
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Atraveller
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Tyranny preload was pretty late, good thing it wasn't too big.
Tyranny preload was pretty late, good thing it wasn't too big.
Reviews are late too, same as Pillars of Eternity. Review embargo ends at 2pm GMT / 6am PST iirc
I'll be putting up the OT at the same time.
The Dear Leader
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Hitler would have been a big fan of Nintendogs, just think about that for a few minutes.
Pettiness aside, consumers have the choice how to spend their money. It doesn't have to be within your expectations nor anyone else's.
Tyranny preload was pretty late, good thing it wasn't too big.
Seeing that "Preloading Tyranny" on election night, in this particular election year, is... unsettling. :s
i skimmed that cos it wasn't too interesting
not really sure what the story here was and why everyone got mad at him, i think the way he talks about "alledged gamergate victims" or talking about "ethical journalism being all that's needed for gamergate to disappear" kind of don't make him a very likeable person but honestly who cares what this guy thinks, afaik he's not threatening anyone or spreading gamergate propaganda or whatever
like brian fargo giving an interview to a gamergate site, you can be kind of shit about this stuff and still be an alright person that's talented and makes games worth playing and whatnot
doesn't mean i'll feel very inclined to back wasteland 3 (and in fact i withrew my pledge cos whatever, i didn't even like wasteland 2 that much), but eh
Atraveller
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When will the result come out?
5ish hours. Some states on the east coast should be called in an hour or two.
Depends on how close things are in certain states though. Can end up being an all nighter.
CheDominik
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I don't get the Blockjam Bundle? What am I supposed to see/buy there?
I agree with this. Until last year, I was of the opinion that the creator's views on politics and such didn't matter as long as his work was interesting enough for me, but nowadays, there's so many games and stuff I want to consume that, whenever someone with openly shitty views release something, I usually just overlook it right away. Obviously, there are cases and cases, but I see nothing wrong with him not wanting to give his money to those people.
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Damn, I was hoping for more timely reviews on Tyranny. I guess I'll wait until the Winter (or maybe Summer?) sale to pick it up.
Not that I'm not excited for it, but I just don't have time with Civ still being awesome and you know.. actual IRL holidays incoming very quickly. Oh and like my wedding and shit to plan.
Not that I'm not excited for it, but I just don't have time with Civ still being awesome and you know.. actual IRL holidays incoming very quickly. Oh and like my wedding and shit to plan.
jaundicejuice
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If it wasn't for GAF I wouldn't even know GamerGate was a thing or that it's been going on for nearly two years now(?). I still don't know what it's about beyond having bits and pieces bubble up through the ether of the interwebz and then it's usually pretty disgusting behaviour that makes the internet and social media look like sort of a giant mistake that we should just wrap up.
texhnolyze
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Me too, I learned GG from Gaf. But I still have no idea what exactly it is.
One thing I'm sure of is that I'd better stay out of GG discussions on Gaf.
Understood, thanks! And what about Adr1ft? Is still good not using any VR headset?
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